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1591
#1591
-9 Frags +

Hey guys i keep getting subbed out of pugs whenever i take a sub.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912565969/AC72632A8D25930C34156E48EC437B1E8DAB7729/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912567745/070145240E1C7AC8056DB3CC23133FDB5C1872C8/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912569043/9B3267D22C92024F98C73134DFE4D3AAA597DB29/
i just wanted to ask if this was legal? just seems like the whole website against me because i exposed a racist :/ anyway yeah hope i stop getting subbed from pugs my skill level because people dont like me!

Hey guys i keep getting subbed out of pugs whenever i take a sub.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912565969/AC72632A8D25930C34156E48EC437B1E8DAB7729/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912567745/070145240E1C7AC8056DB3CC23133FDB5C1872C8/
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1752433439912569043/9B3267D22C92024F98C73134DFE4D3AAA597DB29/
i just wanted to ask if this was legal? just seems like the whole website against me because i exposed a racist :/ anyway yeah hope i stop getting subbed from pugs my skill level because people dont like me!
1592
#1592
18 Frags +

catbowcar lots of people have told u why and also told you not to take the sub before u even take it and u ignore them

catbowcar lots of people have told u why and also told you not to take the sub before u even take it and u ignore them
1593
#1593
-9 Frags +

i wasnt told to not take sub, player getting subbed was mid. i am div2. so idk what ur talking about this time.

i wasnt told to not take sub, player getting subbed was mid. i am div2. so idk what ur talking about this time.
1594
#1594
32 Frags +

Nika catBOWCAR (/kætbaʊkɑː/; Georgian: catBOWCAR; born February 29, 2000), also known as the Unabomber (/ˈjuːnəbɒmər/), is an Georgian PugChamp terrorist, anarchist and former rapper. He was a rap prodigy, but abandoned his musical career in 2012 to pursue a more primitive life. Between 2013 and 2018, he exposed three racists and got 23 others banned in a nationwide exposure campaign against people involved with racism. He issued a social critique opposing PugChamp admins and advocating a keyboard-centered form of anarchism.

Nika catBOWCAR (/kætbaʊkɑː/; Georgian: catBOWCAR; born February 29, 2000), also known as the Unabomber (/ˈjuːnəbɒmər/), is an Georgian PugChamp terrorist, anarchist and former rapper. He was a rap prodigy, but abandoned his musical career in 2012 to pursue a more primitive life. Between 2013 and 2018, he exposed three racists and got 23 others banned in a nationwide exposure campaign against people involved with racism. He issued a social critique opposing PugChamp admins and advocating a keyboard-centered form of anarchism.
1595
#1595
4 Frags +

https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/60257e684428af44e08e3071
as you can see, the game was a 5-0. so iusti picked a terrible team, and then subbed an upgrade player. to get rolled 5-0 anyway.... a tragic story

https://eu.pug.champ.gg/game/60257e684428af44e08e3071
as you can see, the game was a 5-0. so iusti picked a terrible team, and then subbed an upgrade player. to get rolled 5-0 anyway.... a tragic story
1596
#1596
-4 Frags +

dude its just a game how are you this mad lol

dude its just a game how are you this mad lol
1597
#1597
11 Frags +

im not mad, i am just letting people know what goes on in this dreaded and cursed website. i have a beautiful wife back home and 2 little kids, jimmy and timmy. and i couldnt be happier :D. but when injustices like this happen i have to expose them, lead by example and i want my kids to do the same. without being mad of course. have a good day "deca' lol

im not mad, i am just letting people know what goes on in this dreaded and cursed website. i have a beautiful wife back home and 2 little kids, jimmy and timmy. and i couldnt be happier :D. but when injustices like this happen i have to expose them, lead by example and i want my kids to do the same. without being mad of course. have a good day "deca' lol
1598
#1598
10 Frags +

u sound kinda mad.. ?

u sound kinda mad.. ?
1599
#1599
-16 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/MCaynUB.jpg

[img]https://i.imgur.com/MCaynUB.jpg[/img]
1600
#1600
41 Frags +

why do you have that image saved you weird pedophile

why do you have that image saved you weird pedophile
1601
#1601
32 Frags +

why deca talkin bout people bein mad when he's literally this mf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SWMAQYQf0

why deca talkin bout people bein mad when he's literally this mf

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SWMAQYQf0[/youtube]
1602
#1602
-14 Frags +

dude its just a game how are you this mad lol

dude its just a game how are you this mad lol
1603
#1603
19 Frags +

get ur other german friends to dig up pictures of me when i was in school and post them lol , then ur really convince everyone im mad!

get ur other german friends to dig up pictures of me when i was in school and post them lol , then ur really convince everyone im mad!
1604
#1604
-9 Frags +

You are mad, there's no convincing needed, and not everyone is scheming with their friends in discord to protect their precious tftv elo. Go on

You are mad, there's no convincing needed, and not everyone is scheming with their friends in discord to protect their precious tftv elo. Go on
1605
#1605
12 Frags +

u think i have 6 friends? ty for the compliment, but sadly no. you just made dogshit posts and got downfragged. end of story

u think i have 6 friends? ty for the compliment, but sadly no. you just made dogshit posts and got downfragged. end of story
1606
#1606
-14 Frags +

That's not what I said and yes, I know, they're your posts.

That's not what I said and yes, I know, they're your posts.
1607
#1607
5 Frags +
decaThat's not what I said and yes, I know, they're your posts.

youve lost ur mind and resorted to sayng delusions.

[quote=deca]That's not what I said and yes, I know, they're your posts.[/quote]
youve lost ur mind and resorted to sayng delusions.
1608
#1608
21 Frags +

Disregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.

Disregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.
1609
#1609
-27 Frags +
StylaxDisregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.

pugs were made for high level of play and most of the time people kill either to not have a shitty roll pug or to have a few better players add increasing the quality of the pug, there's new rules about killing without a reason too

[quote=Stylax]Disregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.[/quote]
pugs were made for high level of play and most of the time people kill either to not have a shitty roll pug or to have a few better players add increasing the quality of the pug, there's new rules about killing without a reason too
1610
#1610
26 Frags +

Pugs aren't really a high level of play when most people always have to be doing something and can't stalemate for more than 30 seconds without resorting to random uber trade or sniping or 6 man sacs. Sometimes you have to be the guy to sit and stare at a doorway for 3 minutes whilst your team does something else.

Seems insane to me that people don't want to do what it takes to win but cry so hard when they lose.

Probably the biggest difference between top prem and low prem players too tbh.

Pugs aren't really a high level of play when most people always have to be doing something and can't stalemate for more than 30 seconds without resorting to random uber trade or sniping or 6 man sacs. Sometimes you have to be the guy to sit and stare at a doorway for 3 minutes whilst your team does something else.

Seems insane to me that people don't want to do what it takes to win but cry so hard when they lose.

Probably the biggest difference between top prem and low prem players too tbh.
1611
#1611
62 Frags +

I've started playing pugs on november 2020.
Entering a certain circlejerk made it possible to actually get picked on pugchamp and have fun.
Elo wasn't here yet (again) and people were trying to have fun. Of course the so called A-Pugs (Prem/D1 Level) were somewhat tryhard-ish, but that's to be expected on such a high skill level.

Where I'm going with this is, entering 2021, pugs have been shit. And I'm not talking about people crying about Elo or some circlejerks gaslighting certain individuals to get them out so their friend could play.
I'm talking about how toxic this community has become as one. It's sad to see people who I've had a lot of fun times with turn into enemies over a FUCKING WEBSITE. It's a game guys, no need for this toxicity.

I'm not gonna drop names, but certain people on this website are straight up toxic. They're toxic if they're losing Elo, theiy're toxic cause you play 2 division below them. They'll find a way to make you feel miserable for trying to have a fun pug with some friends. It's not even funny anymore at this points, it's just stupid and it's kinda sad to see and hear how many people started to dislike pugs since early 2021/end of 2020.

downfrag me all you want but in conclusion:
fuck the admins who allowed their circlejerk members to do what they want and get away with it
fuck the people who destroyed their friendships OVER VIRTUAL NUMBERS ON A SCREEN
how about we just start to see pugs again as what they are: not relevant.
scream at your teammates in your scrims i don't fucking care but stop insulting random people on a daily base.

I've started playing pugs on november 2020.
Entering a certain circlejerk made it possible to actually get picked on pugchamp and have fun.
Elo wasn't here yet (again) and people were trying to have fun. Of course the so called A-Pugs (Prem/D1 Level) were somewhat tryhard-ish, but that's to be expected on such a high skill level.

Where I'm going with this is, entering 2021, pugs have been shit. And I'm not talking about people crying about Elo or some circlejerks gaslighting certain individuals to get them out so their friend could play.
I'm talking about how toxic this community has become as one. It's sad to see people who I've had a lot of fun times with turn into enemies over a FUCKING WEBSITE. It's a game guys, no need for this toxicity.

I'm not gonna drop names, but certain people on this website are straight up toxic. They're toxic if they're losing Elo, theiy're toxic cause you play 2 division below them. They'll find a way to make you feel miserable for trying to have a fun pug with some friends. It's not even funny anymore at this points, it's just stupid and it's kinda sad to see and hear how many people started to dislike pugs since early 2021/end of 2020.

downfrag me all you want but in conclusion:
fuck the admins who allowed their circlejerk members to do what they want and get away with it
fuck the people who destroyed their friendships OVER VIRTUAL NUMBERS ON A SCREEN
how about we just start to see pugs again as what they are: not relevant.
scream at your teammates in your scrims i don't fucking care but stop insulting random people on a daily base.
1612
#1612
24 Frags +

just called catbowcar the unabomber then novy comes out here and drops the real bomb lmfao.
gg

https://i.imgur.com/NBaeFV7.png

just called catbowcar the unabomber then novy comes out here and drops the real bomb lmfao.
gg
[img]https://i.imgur.com/NBaeFV7.png[/img]
1613
#1613
-4 Frags +

youre supposed to have fun playing video game guys pls

youre supposed to have fun playing video game guys pls
1614
#1614
22 Frags +

The phrase “it’s just a game” is such a weak mindset. You are ok with what happened, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after losing, you’ve lost twice. There’s always something to learn, and always room for improvement, never settle.

The phrase “it’s just a game” is such a weak mindset. You are ok with what happened, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after losing, you’ve lost twice. There’s always something to learn, and always room for improvement, never settle.
1615
#1615
2 Frags +

Pogchamp, the crazy war

Pogchamp, the crazy war
1616
#1616
6 Frags +
buudStylaxDisregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.
pugs were made for high level of play and most of the time people kill either to not have a shitty roll pug or to have a few better players add increasing the quality of the pug, there's new rules about killing without a reason too

I'm sure the skill level is truly astronomical, but the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting. You could argue that redrafting so a good player is in the draft means that the next draft is worse too so it's a net of 0.

And actually I think pugchamp was made so that people can play pugs, so it fits in with that.

Not a witchhunt against the admins, but I think it's one of the issues that stops Pugchamp getting new blood too and probably should be addressed every bit as much as, for example, offclassing rules.

[quote=buud][quote=Stylax]Disregarding the above, why is it a thing that people can kill the draft so that their friends can play?

A few nights ago we had a draft going, someone killed so their friend could play and then half the people didn't bother re-adding cause it was taking so long. I know it's a circle jerk but it also slows the process and makes it harder for shitters like me to get into pugchamp. You kinda end with the same people playing every pug rather than new people.

Surely that's the whole point of the deadline timer really; to get pugs starting asap so you can have more pugs overall.[/quote]
pugs were made for high level of play and most of the time people kill either to not have a shitty roll pug or to have a few better players add increasing the quality of the pug, there's new rules about killing without a reason too[/quote]

I'm sure the skill level is truly astronomical, but the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting. You could argue that redrafting so a good player is in the draft means that the next draft is worse too so it's a net of 0.

And actually I think pugchamp was made so that people can play pugs, so it fits in with that.

Not a witchhunt against the admins, but I think it's one of the issues that stops Pugchamp getting new blood too and probably should be addressed every bit as much as, for example, offclassing rules.
1617
#1617
-1 Frags +
StylaxBut the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting.

Yes I agree completely and my previous point was pretty stupid.
IMO kills can be ok but most of the time they're big mood killers, especially if long wait or if they got chained, but what can be done to prevent them? Theres already captain bans and removing the draft timers could break the site for obvious reasons

[quote=Stylax]
But the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting. [/quote]

Yes I agree completely and my previous point was pretty stupid.
IMO kills can be ok but most of the time they're big mood killers, especially if long wait or if they got chained, but what can be done to prevent them? Theres already captain bans and removing the draft timers could break the site for obvious reasons
1618
#1618
0 Frags +
buudStylaxBut the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting.
Yes I agree completely and my previous point was pretty stupid.
IMO kills can be ok but most of the time they're big mood killers, especially if long wait or if they got chained, but what can be done to prevent them? Theres already captain bans and removing the draft timers could break the site for obvious reasons

I don't really know but if the admins can't specifically do anything then people have to take it upon themselves to make sure the draft goes through rather than pandering to people begging in the chat for it to be killed or whatever.

Probably never going to happen but I suppose if people see the top players 'respecting' the draft process and people push the issue, others are likely to do the same. I know the whole 'respect the draft' idea sounds very cringey (and sounds like some U.S political slogan), but you get the point.

[quote=buud][quote=Stylax]
But the fact remains that you'd get more pugs going if the draft wasn't killed so often and people would spend less time waiting. [/quote]

Yes I agree completely and my previous point was pretty stupid.
IMO kills can be ok but most of the time they're big mood killers, especially if long wait or if they got chained, but what can be done to prevent them? Theres already captain bans and removing the draft timers could break the site for obvious reasons[/quote]

I don't really know but if the admins can't specifically do anything then people have to take it upon themselves to make sure the draft goes through rather than pandering to people begging in the chat for it to be killed or whatever.

Probably never going to happen but I suppose if people see the top players 'respecting' the draft process and people push the issue, others are likely to do the same. I know the whole 'respect the draft' idea sounds very cringey (and sounds like some U.S political slogan), but you get the point.
1619
#1619
-3 Frags +

Can we fix people baiting pugs by adding as med and removing so it pings while were at it?

Can we fix people baiting pugs by adding as med and removing so it pings while were at it?
1620
#1620
3 Frags +
novyI'm not gonna drop names, but certain people on this website are straight up toxic.

Drop the names. Community is small enough that you have to, since you will have to interact with them at some point and they will just keep being the same person. Noone thinks it's them that is the problem but as soon as you actually confront someone and tell them they are a problem change can actually occur.

Which is how pugchamp should be ran. The rules should be done on a case by case basis, game by game. People should be mostly considerate with offclassing and shittalk. If someone isn't happy with how the game is going, or they are getting annoyed at people constantly killing drafts, they should tell the person doing it first, and when the person continues, then complain to an admin, and the admin should verify the behavior then punish the individual griefing the website. Whether it's by permanent captain ban, permanent class restrictions or other ways.

[quote=novy]
I'm not gonna drop names, but certain people on this website are straight up toxic.[/quote]

Drop the names. Community is small enough that you have to, since you will have to interact with them at some point and they will just keep being the same person. Noone thinks it's them that is the problem but as soon as you actually confront someone and tell them they are a problem change can actually occur.

Which is how pugchamp should be ran. The rules should be done on a case by case basis, game by game. People should be mostly considerate with offclassing and shittalk. If someone isn't happy with how the game is going, or they are getting annoyed at people constantly killing drafts, they should tell the person doing it first, and when the person continues, then complain to an admin, and the admin should verify the behavior then punish the individual griefing the website. Whether it's by permanent captain ban, permanent class restrictions or other ways.
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