https://imgur.com/a/dnjsMdH

nobody beats ninjago 5 times in a row guys

yeah, something like that makes sense. can be hard to judge how a person has changed though, especially if they can't participate in the game (basically) in the meantime. but better than nothing for sure

idk, if u cheat when ur 14 i dont think that should mean u cant change as a person ngl

definitely a case by case basis thing, if ur cheating and ur an adult i dont think u need a second chance

It's a tricky situation when there isn't a determination made quickly, as going backwards to change the matchups in the playoffs after they're over is full of big problems.

For an example, my team had yen ring against us in UBR1, and we lost that series 2-1. If we had won, we would have played the actual yen team in the second round. But when they retroactively FFL the games yen played in, we get to win our UBR1 game now, but we don't get to play UBR2 (which I guess we would have got a FFW for also)-- instead, the fake retroactive playoffs just has us go to the lower bracket immediately anyway. We ended up losing in the lower bracket semis, which we physically couldn't have played in if we got FFW's for UBR1 and UBR2 (for playing yen) (since then we make it to UBF and a loss puts you insta into LBF).

Ultimately, I don't think what they do here is wrong or anything, but it DOES ruin the playoffs for everyone involved. The yen team made it to grands, so they screwed over several teams by taking wins off of them, not to mention even more teams cuz yen rang for other teams as well.

But complaining about problems isn't very constructive without solutions, so here's what I proposed in the last post-season survey:

1-- If you're really suspicious of a player cheating, submit reports that have demos, ticks, moments that are sus, etc. Magic already pointed that out before-- this helps the AC a lot.

2-- However, I think what players want, in terms of not having seasons be completely ruined by a cheater, is faster action from the AC. So, my suggestion is: If reports come in that do have stv demos, and specific things to look at, then the AC can take an intermediate step between conviction:

--> If the AC deem that a player passes a certain threshold for POSSIBLY cheating (this is ill-defined, but let's say the AC think there's a decently high chance the player is cheating, based off the initial evidence from reports and whatever else the AC can do QUICKLY), then that player should be placed on a temporary suspension until the AC makes a final decision. That way, that player doesn't play, and for the majority of teams still competing, we avoid the issue of a cheater having to be retroactively banned and matches getting completely ruined.

Is there a chance that we suspend a player and they're later found to be clean? Absolutely, although as long as the threshold is set well, this should be a minority of cases. But even so, if this one player is suspended and misses out, say, on a playoff run, I'd argue that this outcome only really affects that player's team, and even then they only need to get one sub/ringer, and the team is still allowed to play without the suspended player. If that guy is clean and they lose playoffs because of it, then that's unfortunate, but if the MAJORITY of the time, we give MANY teams a cheater-free playoff experience, that's just a net positive overall and more players benefit.

tldr:
- banning cheaters retroactively kinda sucks because many teams take L's in playoffs that cant be accounted for effectively (plus we all just wanna play playoffs, not get a free W months later cuz cheater got banned)

- to avoid this problem, I suggest giving the AC the power to suspend highly suspicious cheater candidates temporarily while investigations are taking place, so that they don't ruin playoffs (regular szn doesnt matter so much since overturning those games doesn't actually cause problems in the same way as playoffs)

- this suspension would allow the player's team to continue competing, but avoid the need to retroactively change game outcomes. If the threshold is set well, the majority of suspended players will be cheaters.

- In the event that a player is suspended and found clean later, it would be unfortunate for the team they're on, but ultimately forcing ONE team to replace ONE player temporarily in the MINORITY of cases is a small price to pay for effectively nuking the cheater playoff runs completely, which will benefit literally EVERY player on all other teams in playoffs.

2 for 2 good job team

Always a great time at RGB, shoutout to Fragile and the RGB staff for running a great event!

Shoutout to my team (finmin jasonh baconblitz b0nes and bloodmachine) for a fun time, and also to the other teams for ggs :)

shoutout to gotten for the nyc pizza slice and also to baconblitz for letting me stay at the airbnb

cya next time

how is this favorability score even calculated tho? Like if the ELOs are already not very well defined (lack of players, statistics), then some algorithm telling me I should win the game by a lot and then lose ELO for winning by a little seems kinda off. I think you should always gain ELO for winning, even if it's just a bit if the favorability is in your favor or whatever. Idk if that is something that happens in other games where an ELO system is used, but in chess for example ur not gonna lose ELO for taking too many moves to beat someone who has a lower ELO than you.

thats almost certainly incorrect tho, wheres this spreadsheet

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ball knowers required.

discord: hami__

bump, mainly looking for pocket solly tryouts. Also need a fscout sub-- will get guaranteed playtime wednesdays + everything in the first 2 weeks (mobe is a demo fugitive). other subs are also welcome :)

his experimental tech is... interesting

def solid main pickup tho

Hi, we got 2nd in main last season and 4th (ish) this season while ppl offclassed and played for fun, but at least some of the core from s14 wants to play adv with the goal of grinding to improve and learn. We're looking for a med, soldier (prefer pocket) and flank scout (sub w guaranteed playtime) with that same mindset & good vibes. Preferably people who have top main or (better for us because we lack it) advanced experience. Roster so far:

combo scout: hami
fscout: mobe
psolly: ?
roamer: causa
demon: alyx
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We've all played a lot together and have good experience and I can vouch for the mental and vibes aspect, at least :)

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So here’s another case where the community volunteers tens of hours of their own time to do the RGL anti cheat’s job for them (which we understand, they’re understaffed and there’s a lot of cases to check), but like can the AC team (which self admittedly has NO ways to detect cheats besides visual inspection) just use the sample of clips gathered here and make a decision? Not saying that they should take the word of the ppl that have posted the clips alone (they should also confirm it), but it seems like combing through the clips would be the most time-consuming part. And meanwhile, another playoff bracket is ruined for the vast majority of the teams if yen is determined to be cheating.

It just seems crazy that there’s consistently 0 transparency about anything regarding the cheating situations that happen pretty much every season at this point, and they get left until it’s way to late to fix anything unless the teams literally stop playoffs from happening (which we can’t do anymore). As was said last season with the Kryma situation, cheating accusations need to be dealt with before playoffs because even if yen gets banned and REAL get their matches revoked, now the bracket is just completely fucked and it’s too late to go back and replay everything.

If you compare this to literally any other game where cheating is involved, no tournament organizer has a problem with saying “player X failed to pass this Anticheat protocol, they are being investigated”, then the player gets temporarily removed from the roster until they’re cleared. Yeah some people could get witch-hunted but then the anticheat team can just make a statement clearing them once the job is done. Instead we do the opposite, nobody has any info, so the teams playing with the potential cheaters are like fuck it, we will keep this guy playing until RGL tells us otherwise, and then by the time the guy gets banned playoffs is over. Remember, yen was reported LAST SEASON and we’re still dealing with this shit now.

Flick one way, fire on the one frame when it stops (consistently), then flick the completely other direction, while also at other times pointing at some random point in the sky and not moving your mouse at all??? Flicking to the target and shooting when u think ur on it makes sense, but why would u ever then wildly swing the other way away from all the targets?

Usually if ur flicking u dont need to be 100% precise because you're flicking TO the target, so there are multiple frames where your crosshair is gonna be near/on the target, but here theres literally one stationary frame and then he's flicking back the other way 180 degrees immediately

There's also like a mountain of evidence more against the guy than just this clip. I'm not sure how we ever got past this one:
https://youtu.be/Bz-KF-UZJVA

Play that in .25x and like ???? (and there's also other ones scattered throughout this thread)

But also while maybe individually none of these clips are enough to incriminate someone as a cheater, it's hard to get past the fact that there's like a huge number of these "suspicious" clips that were found over a relatively short timeframe. Of course, any player could have SOME really ridiculous cheater-esque clips over the course of their time playing the game, but the fact that people can quickly and easily find a substantial number of clips over the course of 1-2 seasons in yen's case says a lot, imo. It's just extremely unlikely that a few people searching for clips over <1 yr would quickly come up with a haul that big for a normal player