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do americans really feel obliged to tip?
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https://i.imgur.com/r462Uk4.jpg

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newbie.tf
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if you want structural changes to society, you have to fight for those structural changes. vote/protest/call your reps

the place to start isn't denying some working college student their rent money you fucking psychopaths

if you want structural changes to society, you have to fight for those structural changes. vote/protest/call your reps

the place to start isn't denying some working college student their rent money you fucking psychopaths
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#63
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KevinIsPwnif you want structural changes to society, you have to fight for those structural changes. vote/protest/call your reps

the place to start isn't denying some working college student their rent money you fucking psychopaths

lol if you think im gonna go protest over someone who passes me a beer #notipscrew

[quote=KevinIsPwn]if you want structural changes to society, you have to fight for those structural changes. vote/protest/call your reps

the place to start isn't denying some working college student their rent money you fucking psychopaths[/quote]
lol if you think im gonna go protest over someone who passes me a beer #notipscrew
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mikematMakemakeyour average waiter gets paid minimum wage because they are disposableThey actually get paid below minimum wage here in freedom land because they're expected to get tips to make up the difference. Min wage in michigan is 9.65 regularly but 3.67 tipped. Lots of waitstaff support it since low wage + tips is usually above normal min wage.

my point still stands

[quote=mikemat][quote=Makemake]your average waiter gets paid minimum wage because they are disposable[/quote]
They actually get paid below minimum wage here in freedom land because they're expected to get tips to make up the difference. Min wage in michigan is 9.65 regularly but 3.67 tipped. Lots of waitstaff support it since low wage + tips is usually above normal min wage.[/quote]
my point still stands
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Failw1zardSevenhow would they all leave for a different industry lol?

also how would they join another organization within the same industry if this happens? the entire point of the lots of people not tipping is that it impacts a fuckton of different restaurants so it's not like taking a job as a waiter at a different restaurant would be any better, you're not being tipped there either.

Believe it or not, working in food service gives you skills for dozens of other industries that are in demand, at least pre-covid, and transitioning to a different industry is very viable. Lastly, taking a job as a waiter at a different restaurant would be better. Different organizations pay differently; have different wage systems, and the particularly good organizations in the industry don't pay tips, they pay at or above prevailing wage. So yes, owners would definitely notice that they lost all of the talented staff to better paying jobs in the same industry or for other industries.
Lastly, just get the balls to email your state senators and demand that they fix the labor laws allowing this scenario to exist. We don't need everyone in society to magically stop tipping one day, we need everyone to agree to legislatively fix the industry.

imagine thinking any american politicians cater towards anyone under the age of 30

[quote=Failw1zard][quote=Seven]
how would they all leave for a different industry lol?

also how would they join another organization within the same industry if this happens? the entire point of the lots of people not tipping is that it impacts a fuckton of different restaurants so it's not like taking a job as a waiter at a different restaurant would be any better, you're not being tipped there either.[/quote]

Believe it or not, working in food service gives you skills for dozens of other industries that are in demand, at least pre-covid, and transitioning to a different industry is very viable. Lastly, taking a job as a waiter at a different restaurant would be better. Different organizations pay differently; have different wage systems, and the particularly good organizations in the industry don't pay tips, they pay at or above prevailing wage. So yes, owners would definitely notice that they lost all of the talented staff to better paying jobs in the same industry or for other industries.
Lastly, just get the balls to email your state senators and demand that they fix the labor laws allowing this scenario to exist. We don't need everyone in society to magically stop tipping one day, we need everyone to agree to legislatively fix the industry.[/quote]
imagine thinking any american politicians cater towards anyone under the age of 30
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Spuhttps://i.imgur.com/r462Uk4.jpg

It's like an hour max!

[quote=Spu][img]https://i.imgur.com/r462Uk4.jpg[/img][/quote]

It's like an hour max!
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