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September 2020 Global Whitelist update
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ozfortress
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Hello!
Recently all major leagues that participate in the Global Whitelist have been in discussion about an update to the whitelist to allow the Solemn Vow. As the Solemn Vow has now seen significant play in multiple different regions and its impact on the game has been tested, we have concluded that it is not detrimental to gameplay and it should not remain banned. Many complaints around the Solemn Vow have centred around that fact that it lowers the skill ceiling of Medic and removes the focus on Uber counting, however testing has shown this to be a less significant issue that anticipated. As such, this iteration of the Global Whitelist will allow the Solemn Vow.

You can find the full updated whitelist here: https://whitelist.tf/10885

Hello!
Recently all major leagues that participate in the Global Whitelist have been in discussion about an update to the whitelist to allow the Solemn Vow. As the Solemn Vow has now seen significant play in multiple different regions and its impact on the game has been tested, we have concluded that it is not detrimental to gameplay and it should not remain banned. Many complaints around the Solemn Vow have centred around that fact that it lowers the skill ceiling of Medic and removes the focus on Uber counting, however testing has shown this to be a less significant issue that anticipated. As such, this iteration of the Global Whitelist will allow the Solemn Vow.

You can find the full updated whitelist here: https://whitelist.tf/10885
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#2
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Hold up, the fucking ATOMIZER is UNBANNED?

haha get fucked soldier players.

Hold up, the fucking ATOMIZER is UNBANNED?

haha get fucked soldier players.
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#3
48 Frags +
catfishMany complaints around the Solemn Vow have centred around that fact that it lowers the skill ceiling of Medic and removes the focus on Uber counting, however testing has shown this to be a less significant issue that anticipated.

"a less significant issue than anticipated" doesn't seem to imply it improves the game in any way, so what was the reasoning for adding it? Or is the goal "allow things that don't break the game" rather than "try to make the game as fun as possible"?

[quote=catfish]Many complaints around the Solemn Vow have centred around that fact that it lowers the skill ceiling of Medic and removes the focus on Uber counting, however testing has shown this to be a less significant issue that anticipated. [/quote]

"a less significant issue than anticipated" doesn't seem to imply it improves the game in any way, so what was the reasoning for adding it? Or is the goal "allow things that don't break the game" rather than "try to make the game as fun as possible"?
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payload.tf
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Nice, I can maincall from medic.

Nice, I can maincall from medic.
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#5
45 Frags +

so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?

so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?
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#6
40 Frags +

can we have an ETA on the Valve Major now after these crucial unbans? I cannot wait for the tf2 compendium

can we have an ETA on the Valve Major now after these crucial unbans? I cannot wait for the tf2 compendium
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#7
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_KermitHold up, the fucking ATOMIZER is UNBANNED?

haha get fucked soldier players.

as if they dont already get fukd by winger and med attatch o_o

[quote=_Kermit]Hold up, the fucking ATOMIZER is UNBANNED?

haha get fucked soldier players.[/quote]
as if they dont already get fukd by winger and med attatch o_o
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#8
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Mark____so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?

at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)

[quote=Mark____]so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?[/quote]
at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)
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#9
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DuMmTmMark____so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)

Keep in mind that the Lockdown Cup was more meant to be an i67 replacement. Introducing a new whitelist should probably have it's own cup or something.
On top of that, this is anounced 5 days before the cup, so if people were considering practising with the new weapons (or against them), they have almost no time for that.
i67 wasn't meant to be a tryout kinda thing either right

[quote=DuMmTm][quote=Mark____]so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?[/quote]
at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)[/quote]
Keep in mind that the Lockdown Cup was more meant to be an i67 replacement. Introducing a new whitelist should probably have it's own cup or something.
On top of that, this is anounced 5 days before the cup, so if people were considering practising with the new weapons (or against them), they have almost no time for that.
i67 wasn't meant to be a tryout kinda thing either right
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#10
22 Frags +

I am commenting here to voice my continued displeasure with the unbanning of the solemn vow.

I am commenting here to voice my continued displeasure with the unbanning of the solemn vow.
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#11
Essentials.TF
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AubriacDuMmTmMark____so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)Keep in mind that the Lockdown Cup was more meant to be an i67 replacement. Introducing a new whitelist should probably have it's own cup or something.
On top of that, this is anounced 5 days before the cup, so if people were considering practising with the new weapons (or against them), they have almost no time for that.
i67 wasn't meant to be a tryout kinda thing either right

Lockdown Throwdown has nothing to do with iSeries, as confusing as that may be and has been in the works since soon after the first one in April, so realistically it shouldn't be held in the same regard as the official iSeries replacement which will come later in the year.

[quote=Aubriac][quote=DuMmTm][quote=Mark____]so why did all major leagues have a discussion that none of the playerbase was informed about or involved in?[/quote]
at the very least it was in a test cup in ozfortress, ETF2Ls issues probably got in the way of one happening for EU but the upcoming Lockdown Cup somewhat serves as a testing ground before full season i would imagine (also NA has it unbanned already but they dont count for "Global" whitelist discussions)[/quote]
Keep in mind that the Lockdown Cup was more meant to be an i67 replacement. Introducing a new whitelist should probably have it's own cup or something.
On top of that, this is anounced 5 days before the cup, so if people were considering practising with the new weapons (or against them), they have almost no time for that.
i67 wasn't meant to be a tryout kinda thing either right[/quote]

Lockdown Throwdown has nothing to do with iSeries, as confusing as that may be and has been in the works since soon after the first one in April, so realistically it shouldn't be held in the same regard as the official iSeries replacement which will come later in the year.
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#12
-4 Frags +

if scout gets atomizer i get infinite ammo unban the laser gun

if scout gets atomizer i get infinite ammo unban the laser gun
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#13
2 Frags +
ArchRhythmLockdown Throwdown has nothing to do with iSeries, as confusing as that may be and has been in the works since soon after the first one in April, so realistically it shouldn't be held in the same regard as the official iSeries replacement which will come later in the year.

Yes that's confusing indeed, as the first lockdown cup was clearly meant to replace CPH. Alright perhaps it's not the official replacement for lan, but I'd also be careful saying it has nothing to do with iSeries. To me as a player, it feels like the closest thing we currently have as a replacement for i67 is this cup. The lan should've taken place a few weeks ago so it's also roughly around the same time. We don't know when the áctual replacement will happen and if it will be any different than this cup.
I can only speak for myself here, but if I see the atomizer unbanned a few days before the cup, it just makes me look a bit less forward to it. I wish we'd known earlier or that they'd waited to update it after the cup.

[quote=ArchRhythm]Lockdown Throwdown has nothing to do with iSeries, as confusing as that may be and has been in the works since soon after the first one in April, so realistically it shouldn't be held in the same regard as the official iSeries replacement which will come later in the year.[/quote]
Yes that's confusing indeed, as the first lockdown cup was clearly meant to replace CPH. Alright perhaps it's not the official replacement for lan, but I'd also be careful saying it has nothing to do with iSeries. To me as a player, it feels like the closest thing we currently have as a replacement for i67 is this cup. The lan should've taken place a few weeks ago so it's also roughly around the same time. We don't know when the áctual replacement will happen and if it will be any different than this cup.
I can only speak for myself here, but if I see the atomizer unbanned a few days before the cup, it just makes me look a bit less forward to it. I wish we'd known earlier or that they'd waited to update it after the cup.
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#14
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Guys, the Atomizer has been unbanned for a few seasons already...

Guys, the Atomizer has been unbanned for a few seasons already...
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#15
ozfortress
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The Atomizer has been unbanned since May 2019

The Atomizer has been unbanned since May 2019
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#16
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DypsilonGuys, the Atomizer has been unbanned for a few seasons already...

Lmao I'm a fool. Pls forgive

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Last_Episode_of_Tom_and_Jerry.gif

[quote=Dypsilon]Guys, the Atomizer has been unbanned for a few seasons already...[/quote]
Lmao I'm a fool. Pls forgive
[img]https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Last_Episode_of_Tom_and_Jerry.gif[/img]
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#17
-6 Frags +

ok so i gave it a day of not thinking about it at all and have come to the conclusion that if we give medic the solemn vow, we should nerf the med/scout speed as a compromise

ok so i gave it a day of not thinking about it at all and have come to the conclusion that if we give medic the solemn vow, we should nerf the med/scout speed as a compromise
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#18
18 Frags +

or alternatively just not give medic the solemn vow:-)

or alternatively just not give medic the solemn vow:-)
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#19
-11 Frags +

honestly just unban the cow mangler bro

honestly just unban the cow mangler bro
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#20
5 Frags +
scratchhhonestly just unban the cow mangler bro

no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g

[quote=scratchh]honestly just unban the cow mangler bro[/quote]
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g
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#21
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suprascratchhhonestly just unban the cow mangler brono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g

just walk out of the way dumb ass

[quote=supra][quote=scratchh]honestly just unban the cow mangler bro[/quote]
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6uXLGJO1g[/quote]
just walk out of the way dumb ass
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