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witch hunts within the community
posted in The Dumpster
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Ever since the post about the banning of Messy and National (http://etf2l.org/2018/10/03/etf2ls-sponsorship-and-policy-update-bans-tip-of-the-hats/). I have felt a sort of witch hunt has been started by bigger members of the community to get other players banned.

This happened to me only yesterday (6th October) as a tweet had came out from a teamfortress.tv and essentials.tf caster Hiipfire for alleged racial slurs towards him. I am unable to provide any tweets as he deleted the original tweet due to me providing evidence in the comments and him blocking me for showing him trying to still act like a victim inside the dms. The tweet stated that I had called him "Nigfire" inside a double mix (even though i am not in the discord this double mix took place).

Today (7th October) by another player by the name of Heny an admin for the essentials.tf cup put on twitter about a player called bostoncheese and how offensive he was by having his name "jew in oven". This would be offensive by any means until you consider the fact that he is Jewish his self. These comments were followed up by an admin on Teamfortress.tv (Twiikkuu) member post screenshots of arguments made by the player explaining his reasons why Messy and National's bans were unfair.

These are clear slanderous remarks are extremely dangerous to the person on the receiving end by damaging their reputation for some twisted way to push etf2l's new rules. This is even more worrying as these are not ordinary members but high members of the community (casters, admins and youtubers) with much more respect (not reminding that at the moment doomsday.exe has been trying to document and post any sort of harassment inside the tf2 community which he had done during my indecent yesterday). Making it harder to fight back against these claims.

Ever since the post about the banning of Messy and National (http://etf2l.org/2018/10/03/etf2ls-sponsorship-and-policy-update-bans-tip-of-the-hats/). I have felt a sort of witch hunt has been started by bigger members of the community to get other players banned.

This happened to me only yesterday (6th October) as a tweet had came out from a teamfortress.tv and essentials.tf caster Hiipfire for alleged racial slurs towards him. I am unable to provide any tweets as he deleted the original tweet due to me providing evidence in the comments and him blocking me for showing him trying to still act like a victim inside the dms. The tweet stated that I had called him "Nigfire" inside a double mix (even though i am not in the discord this double mix took place).

Today (7th October) by another player by the name of Heny an admin for the essentials.tf cup put on twitter about a player called bostoncheese and how offensive he was by having his name "jew in oven". This would be offensive by any means until you consider the fact that he is Jewish his self. These comments were followed up by an admin on Teamfortress.tv (Twiikkuu) member post screenshots of arguments made by the player explaining his reasons why Messy and National's bans were unfair.

These are clear slanderous remarks are extremely dangerous to the person on the receiving end by damaging their reputation for some twisted way to push etf2l's new rules. This is even more worrying as these are not ordinary members but high members of the community (casters, admins and youtubers) with much more respect (not reminding that at the moment doomsday.exe has been trying to document and post any sort of harassment inside the tf2 community which he had done during my indecent yesterday). Making it harder to fight back against these claims.
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as someone who has very little influence on the community and what people say about me online, i find it extremely difficult to stick up for myself against people who call me "worthless piece of trash" (doomsday.exe) because they saw that i was banned for harassing another player, even though they have absolutely NO idea what the full situation is. when people talk about me as if im the spawn of satan and a generally awful person, which if you knew the full context of my ban and the reason why im still appealing it you would not say about me, i cant do shit. i cant disclose any specifics yet as bloodis has asked me not to speak publicly on the issue as admins are still deciding wether or not to rescind my ban.

essentially what im trying to say is, as a non-influential individual who cant put their full story out there in the public, all this hate and toxicity coming my way is impossible to stop and is far more damaging than anything i have ever done to anyone else in this community

as someone who has very little influence on the community and what people say about me online, i find it extremely difficult to stick up for myself against people who call me "worthless piece of trash" (doomsday.exe) because they saw that i was banned for harassing another player, even though they have absolutely NO idea what the full situation is. when people talk about me as if im the spawn of satan and a generally awful person, which if you knew the full context of my ban and the reason why im still appealing it you would not say about me, i cant do shit. i cant disclose any specifics yet as bloodis has asked me not to speak publicly on the issue as admins are still deciding wether or not to rescind my ban.

essentially what im trying to say is, as a non-influential individual who cant put their full story out there in the public, all this hate and toxicity coming my way is impossible to stop and is far more damaging than anything i have ever done to anyone else in this community
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little abit about doomsday when confronted about the situation he though it was Toco not Messy. After that we were banned from his Twitch.

Also can I add that Doomsday has harassed another Youtuber and called a Female streamer a slut for calling the game dead
Note was explained that they were planning a raid on Doomsday do apologise to Doomsday was not aware at the time of post

little abit about doomsday when confronted about the situation he though it was Toco not Messy. After that we were banned from his Twitch.

Also can I add that Doomsday has harassed another Youtuber and called a Female streamer a slut for calling the game dead
Note was explained that they were planning a raid on Doomsday do apologise to Doomsday was not aware at the time of post
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#4
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fun fact: if you ban everyone in a community, it will have 0% toxicism!

fun fact: if you ban everyone in a community, it will have 0% toxicism!
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doomsday is a very nice guy. please give him respect. his thoughts and ideals on every situation is 100% correct no matter what

doomsday is a very nice guy. please give him respect. his thoughts and ideals on every situation is 100% correct no matter what
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i watchd doomsday twitch streeam he sucks at tf2 :d

i watchd doomsday twitch streeam he sucks at tf2 :d
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do people still think doomsday's opinion is worth anything?

do people still think doomsday's opinion is worth anything?
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Jynxiido people still think doomsday's opinion is worth anything?

sadly yes

[quote=Jynxii]do people still think doomsday's opinion is worth anything?[/quote]
sadly yes
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-stanfun fact: if you ban everyone in a community, it will have 0% toxicism!

wouldn't it also have a 100% toxicity?

[quote=-stan]fun fact: if you ban everyone in a community, it will have 0% toxicism![/quote]
wouldn't it also have a 100% toxicity?
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heres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions

https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png

really makes u think

heres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
[img]https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png[/img]
really makes u think
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Wandumheres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png
really makes u think

Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.

[quote=Wandum]heres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
[img]https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png[/img]
really makes u think[/quote]
Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.
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nazis

nazis
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its obviously really bad if ppl are just making up lies to get other people banned but why would these people make up these false claims against u FLIGHT? im not saying that i think you are lying just why would they try and get u banned out of all people?

its obviously really bad if ppl are just making up lies to get other people banned but why would these people make up these false claims against u FLIGHT? im not saying that i think you are lying just why would they try and get u banned out of all people?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmItlwORC5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmItlwORC5U
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oyeaits obviously really bad if ppl are just making up lies to get other people banned but why would these people make up these false claims against u FLIGHT? im not saying that i think you are lying just why would they try and get u banned out of all people?

IDK why CJ's post has been down voted but I can see your scepticism. The fact is that the video that you just saw came out a day before the tweet came out. Furthermore my etf2l name whilst allowed by admins can be seen as controversial and my joke rec post both mocking the bluebunny situation could be taken offensively and was screenshoted in the tweet.

If I was present in the dmix I would fully understand his confusion but the fact I am not in the discord and in a follow-up tweet (before he removed the tweet claiming I called him niigfire) he also called out the person who said it for also harassing him, is kinda suspicious

[quote=oyea]its obviously really bad if ppl are just making up lies to get other people banned but why would these people make up these false claims against u FLIGHT? im not saying that i think you are lying just why would they try and get u banned out of all people?[/quote]
IDK why CJ's post has been down voted but I can see your scepticism. The fact is that the video that you just saw came out a day before the tweet came out. Furthermore my etf2l name whilst allowed by admins can be seen as controversial and my joke rec post both mocking the bluebunny situation could be taken offensively and was screenshoted in the tweet.

If I was present in the dmix I would fully understand his confusion but the fact I am not in the discord and in a follow-up tweet (before he removed the tweet claiming I called him niigfire) he also called out the person who said it for also harassing him, is kinda suspicious
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its funny how people used to make fun of tf2c admins for banning people for things outside their website but now leagues are doing exactly the same

its funny how people used to make fun of tf2c admins for banning people for things outside their website but now leagues are doing exactly the same
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morwannegWandumheres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png
really makes u think
Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.

Pretty much what happened to me is that Heny made a post about my 100% ironical steam profile and a name I used more than 4 months ago on twitter, it honestly was in a way to make me seem like a bad guy and to throw some shade on me (else I would of assumed that he would not of linked my Etf2l profile)

When I confronted him with this and tried to give him context to the situation he didn’t reply and only proceeded to reply to other players defending me instead of speaking to the person who he had an issue with in the first place. Ah well, as trump says: “Sweden.” (100% ironical no racism ban for this spicy boye).

[quote=morwanneg][quote=Wandum]heres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
[img]https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png[/img]
really makes u think[/quote]
Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.[/quote]

Pretty much what happened to me is that Heny made a post about my 100% ironical steam profile and a name I used more than 4 months ago on twitter, it honestly was in a way to make me seem like a bad guy and to throw some shade on me (else I would of assumed that he would not of linked my Etf2l profile)

When I confronted him with this and tried to give him context to the situation he didn’t reply and only proceeded to reply to other players defending me instead of speaking to the person who he had an issue with in the first place. Ah well, as trump says: “Sweden.” (100% ironical no racism ban for this spicy boye).
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#18
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ban all uk players

ban all uk players
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when we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny - Anonymous

[i]when we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny[/i] - Anonymous
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TheBostonCheesemorwannegWandumheres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png
really makes u think
Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.

Pretty much what happened to me is that Heny made a post about my 100% ironical steam profile and a name I used more than 4 months ago on twitter, it honestly was in a way to make me seem like a bad guy and to throw some shade on me (else I would of assumed that he would not of linked my Etf2l profile)

When I confronted him with this and tried to give him context to the situation he didn’t reply and only proceeded to reply to other players defending me instead of speaking to the person who he had an issue with in the first place. Ah well, as trump says: “Sweden.” (100% ironical no racism ban for this spicy boye).

Same thing happened to me. I went to calmly explain to him on Steam that I wasn't the person who called you it. We're he said how he doesn't want to add me. I went to discord were I explained it couldn't be me were then I was blocked on discord. I had to send the evidence on twitter we're he knew he looked stupid to keep it up.

He then came back saying shit happens (not a proper apology) when I responded fuck yourself he proceeded to mock me block me again on discord but also on twitter as well

[quote=TheBostonCheese][quote=morwanneg][quote=Wandum]heres a pic of heny wanting to help doxx people for having different opinions
[img]https://i.imgur.com/IPAi7Fj.png[/img]
really makes u think[/quote]
Wanting to ruin someone's life because you don't agree with their political opinions is hands down one of the worst things about social media. I'm honestly disappointed that this sort of witch hunting isn't banned on sight even though it basically counts as harassment.[/quote]

Pretty much what happened to me is that Heny made a post about my 100% ironical steam profile and a name I used more than 4 months ago on twitter, it honestly was in a way to make me seem like a bad guy and to throw some shade on me (else I would of assumed that he would not of linked my Etf2l profile)

When I confronted him with this and tried to give him context to the situation he didn’t reply and only proceeded to reply to other players defending me instead of speaking to the person who he had an issue with in the first place. Ah well, as trump says: “Sweden.” (100% ironical no racism ban for this spicy boye).[/quote]

Same thing happened to me. I went to calmly explain to him on Steam that I wasn't the person who called you it. We're he said how he doesn't want to add me. I went to discord were I explained it couldn't be me were then I was blocked on discord. I had to send the evidence on twitter we're he knew he looked stupid to keep it up.

He then came back saying shit happens (not a proper apology) when I responded fuck yourself he proceeded to mock me block me again on discord but also on twitter as well
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It's funny how all of them will block or hide when confronted on the issue

It's funny how all of them will block or hide when confronted on the issue
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https://i.gyazo.com/43d2bed3a72ec26bf0cd9a80ef68226e.png

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/43d2bed3a72ec26bf0cd9a80ef68226e.png[/img]
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#23
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the ship is sinking and it has no lifeboats

the ship is sinking and it has no lifeboats
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MelonTFhttps://i.gyazo.com/43d2bed3a72ec26bf0cd9a80ef68226e.png

It's almost sad what it is now

[quote=MelonTF][img]https://i.gyazo.com/43d2bed3a72ec26bf0cd9a80ef68226e.png[/img][/quote]
It's almost sad what it is now
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FLIGHTlittle abit about doomsday when confronted about the situation he though it was Toco not Messy. After that we were banned from his Twitch.

Also can I add that Doomsday has harassed another Youtuber and called a Female streamer a slut for calling the game dead

There was also organised raids being planned in the stream apologies

[quote=FLIGHT]little abit about doomsday when confronted about the situation he though it was Toco not Messy. After that we were banned from his Twitch.

Also can I add that Doomsday has harassed another Youtuber and called a Female streamer a slut for calling the game dead[/quote]
There was also organised raids being planned in the stream apologies
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#26
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ludditewhen we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny - Anonymous

"I'm that gorilla dick nigga, I make dike pussy wet." - Also anonymous

[quote=luddite][i]when we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny[/i] - Anonymous[/quote]

[i]"I'm that gorilla dick nigga, I make dike pussy wet."[/i] - Also anonymous
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The name ‘jew in oven’ is offensive even if the person with the name is jewish. That argument makes no sense.

The name ‘jew in oven’ is offensive even if the person with the name is jewish. That argument makes no sense.
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#28
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Can black people say the n-word???

Can black people say the n-word???
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mystlThe name ‘jew in oven’ is offensive even if the person with the name is jewish. That argument makes no sense.

sure but you, as someone not part of that group, do not reserve the right to being upset at the joke. if you get angry FOR the group that someone who's a member of that group make jokes on, you're incredibly entitled.

[quote=mystl]The name ‘jew in oven’ is offensive even if the person with the name is jewish. That argument makes no sense.[/quote]
sure but you, as someone not part of that group, do not reserve the right to being upset at the joke. if you get angry FOR the group that someone who's a member of that group make jokes on, you're incredibly entitled.
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Syph, I honestly can't be bothered to explain to you how different those two things are.

And I'm not personally getting angry or offended, but I can still recognize that someone from the group the joke is about can find it offensive.

Syph, I honestly can't be bothered to explain to you how different those two things are.

And I'm not personally getting angry or offended, but I can still recognize that someone from the group the joke is about can find it offensive.
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