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Clinton's HQ was packed full for 8-10 hours, they stayed there loyally until 2 AM and she refuses to come out and talk to her supporters at the end of the night. She still hasn't addressed them at all. What a load of crap and really shows you what she was all about. Herself.

This leaves 2 questions:
1) if Trump gets the nuclear codes will he be like Lex Luthor and nuke the San Andreas fault to boost the property values of large tracts of desert he has mysteriously acquired?
2) do the Democrat executive regret stopping Bernie from winning the nomination? Would he have done better in the country against Trump?

Honestly the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves, they dismissed large parts of the population as racist idiots who's problems weren't real or important and they nominated a candidate who was seen as being a big cause of the problems they were experiencing in the first place, in the end it came back to bite them in the ass.

Even Bernie would have been a better candidate than Hillary.

if you are someone who wants to stop Trump or Brexit, your goal should be to communicate effectively with the people who believe it is in their interest to support Trump or Brexit. I think in general there is no effort on the part of media elites to communicate with those people and do anything other than tell them that they are primitive, racist, and stupid. And if the message being sent is that you are primitive, racist, and stupid, and not that you have been fucked over in ways that are really bad and need to be rectified, of course those people are not going to be receptive to the message coming from the people who view them with contempt and scorn.

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Whites without a college degree — men and women — made up a third of the 2016 electorate. Trump won them by 39 percentage points, according to exit polls

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2016/11/2300-3.jpg

Shouts out to all the people who elected Mike Pence to the second highest office in America

That graph actually applies to most people outside higher social classes and across more countries than the US. You can probably cut the demographics a few different ways to get niche results showing something different but it's a very broad trend including amongst professionals.

Also interesting is what the period before that graph shows, which is ascendant real wealth amongst ordinary working people since the end of the war. 1975 was an interesting year.

This thread really puts on display the huge number of retards that browse here.

"I can't vote for Hillary! She's corrupt, and she doesn't care about the American people!" Right, and the ex-reality show host who spews bigoted remarks about nearly everyone who isn't a straight white male and finds it within himself to give praise to a shady authoritarian regime toootally has your interests closer to his heart than she does. The party that regularly voted against its own legislation to just mindlessly fuck over the president absolutely deserves more power. That makes perfect sense. Stuff just didn't get done cuz the libtards wanted tard crap. Let's all spend the next 4 years masturbating to Alex Jones so we can ignore or justify the stupid shit that we've opened up to happen to the people around us.

This isn't the first time since 1928.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divided_government_in_the_United_States

Tfw the resident 14 yo is more mature about this than half of the thread

You know Hillary lost states that Obama won. Millions of people who voted for Obama (i.e. probably not cross burning KKK members) preferred Trump over Clinton.
The fact that Democrats so easily chacterized anybody who has a slightly different political opinion or perspective than them as some Neo Nazi Infowars bigot, instead of providing convincing reasons as to why your side has better solutions to their problems, is why nobody was convinced by the Democratic sides arguments.

I think that Trump's presidency will affect Americans for more than a week though...

Obviously, it will somehow affect the rest of the world as well.

I'm sorry, did you watch different debates than I did? When did Trump ever make a half-reasonable attempt to discuss policy and social issues? All I heard him do was stammer "wrong" over and over again, occasionally mumbling something about crooked Hillary or the liberal media.

Sure, the Dems said plenty of things about how bigoted Trumps campaign has been, because he kept saying stupid things. But if you really only ever heard the democrats talking about Trump, you've got one incredible filter for the shit going on around you.

if trump gets assassinated then we get mike pence as president

holy shit lol do not assassinate trump

Menachem does set the context of his criticisms as the people that browse the forum rather than the wider electorate that have switched from voting democrat to voting republican. I think the misquote is slightly disingenuous on your part, and when properly framed in the context of the forum it's safe to say there are certainly some infowars fans here.

welcome mr. president donald "lizard man" trump

also shoutout to the over 14,000 people that wrote in harambe as their vote, not only did you piss away your vote, you're gonna sit there and cry about trump being elected

fuck you

Trumps whole campaign was built on the back of social issues. He correctly identified what large portions of the population were concerned about and told them he was their guy.
He's the guy who was saying he was against the kind of trade deals that had made their jobs unprofitable to keep in the USA, he was the guy saying he would put tarriffs on Fords cars if they moved their plants to Mexico, he was the guy who was saying that unlimited illegal immigration was putting downward pressure on their standard of living. The Democratic reply to those issues was either 'tough shit' or to call people racist morons for daring to question the sacred cows of neo-liberalism. They also nominated the most globalist neo-liberal candidate they could find, which is hardly going to go down well with people who think those kinds of policies are what has ruined their lives in the first place.

Trump won because of high gop turnout not dems switching sides

Sorry that calling racists racist makes them upset :(

media shocked. “how did trump win” they said. “how could this loud fascist oompa loompa become president after we gave him more than half a year of completely free airtime until his momentum reached critical levels” they said. “we’re so surprised”

i'm fuckin' schleep

https://i.imgur.com/I5A0DmN.jpg

It's almost like if you scream at people that they're racists, bigots, uneducated, white male privileged and retards for years, those words become trivialized, lose their meaning and those people won't show up to support you in an election?

DNC has nobody to blame but themselves and their rhetoric for this. Maybe next time nominate someone that isn't Hillary fucking Clinton and then shove it down the electorate's throat? Even Sanders would have crushed him, but they rigged the primary against him, so alas. All they had to do was nominate someone palatable and they had it, easily. But no, it was "her turn" and everyone who disagreed is a sexist misogynist. Clearly if you didn't vote for Clinton you're against the idea of a female president instead of, you know, her! I wouldn't care if H Clinton is a man or a transgender alligator, she should not have been the nominee. Period.

Look dude, you are a racist if you or anyone you know voted for Trump....currently (59,054,059 people)
Deal with it

AMERICA IS CLEARLY RACIST BECAUSE THEY VOTED FOR A FAT CHEETO SKINNED MAN (hahaha how can donald trump ever even inaugurate himself after i give him that fucking sick burn) AND DON'T YOU GUYS REMEMBER HIS OTHER CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" FUCK I HATE WHITE PEOPLE BUT THATS NOT THE ISSUE HERE

People are trying to argue that Hillary still would have won the nomination if she didn't rig the DNC against Bernie which isn't even the point. She created a great deal of animosity between herself and Bernie supporters by 1. Rigging it against him in the first place and 2. Alienating his supporters from her base when she could have easily gotten them.

Bernie supporters owed her nothing as she made it abundantly clear she didn't give a shit about them; in the end these are the same people that basically cost her the presidency.

>Even Sanders would have crushed him

please stop this narrative

Trump won because the rural voters turned up in droves to vote for him. They weren't going to swing to a socialist atheist

any sort of gain you'd want to predict from rural voters swinging would've been nullified by depressed minority turnout

>Bernie supporters owed her nothing as she made it abundantly clear she didn't give a shit about them

she ran on bernie's platform after the DNC

the left just signed away its major-party access for 8+ years because now the Dems are gonna pander to middle america

openly calling those people deplorable racists might not have been a sick strategy eh?
also do you genuinely think HC, someone who literally said you need to have a personal and public opinion on issues in her Goldman Sachs speeches and has done nothing but flip flop since the 90s, would give a shit about Bernie's platform after she's elected?

if u would have told me donald trump would be the president in 4 years, i wouldnt have believed it all lmao

considering all the inflammatory shit that the right throws around its weird everyone is getting hung up on this but no, it wouldn't have mattered. Economic pressures forced people to the GOP, not hurt fee fees

considering universal healthcare, gay rights, and environmentalism were things Clinton supported in the 90s and wanted to work towards anyway yeah I think she'dve stuck. Just because she was more conservative and nuanced in her goals for her term didn't mean she wasn't progressive

https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI?t=29s

0:27
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

Sanders would have had an important advantage over Clinton, he's an old white male. That demographic voted against Clinton in droves, and Sanders would also have been much more difficult to outflank on the "insider" theme. There is no doubt he would have had his own, probably fatal, electoral weaknesses, but he is a much better orator than Clinton and would probably have had a much easier time appearing genuine when campaigning.

Clinton being a better politician within the confines of her own party didn't do them any good on the road. The democrat process just didn't produce a good enough candidate and in the wake of defeat they might want to look at why. The Republican party has plenty of work to do to figure out what just happened to it as well.