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691
#691
8 Frags +

those unlocks are fucking dick cheese imbalanced

those unlocks are fucking dick cheese imbalanced
692
#692
22 Frags +

tf2 is a game for casuals now and nothing anyone can do can make it better then it was in the past

tf2 is a game for casuals now and nothing anyone can do can make it better then it was in the past
693
#693
6 Frags +
Dig_Doug6s bans unlocks because they hate change, balance has little or nothing to do with it.

This was actually true in EU before i46 happened to a certain extent. I mean obviously some unlocks were broken (gunslinger etc..) so you are wrong but even now popular unlocks like boston basher, equalizer and gunboats were banned in EU despite them being allowed in NA. Obviously balance wasn't the issue to ban those, but rather that they changed the game a lot and the game was fun as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken, right?

You may call that era stale or boring, but for me and many others TF2 was fun. ETF2L actually tried to introduce some unlocks (mainly Equalizer, Bonk and pre-nerf Sandvich) in Season 9, but Prem teams protested against it and stopped playing, forcing ETF2L to return to the old whitelist back in Season 10. We could have adapted but it would have taken time to completely adjust to the changes so why bother? It's not like there is a money incentive to play an inferior game (in their minds at least).

I think the alienation of new people by banning weapons was the biggest reason why unlocks were being introduced and now that EU lost to NA very hard in i46 nailed the coffin for vanilla ruleset, which was now regarded as inferior. Now unlocks like gunboats and equalizer are standard unlocks in our game but in all honesty I would still play this game if no unlocks were allowed.

tl;dr: People in EU used to hate change, but nowadays this is definitely not the case.

[quote=Dig_Doug]6s bans unlocks because they hate change, balance has little or nothing to do with it.[/quote]

This was actually true in EU before i46 happened to a certain extent. I mean obviously some unlocks were broken (gunslinger etc..) so you are wrong but even now popular unlocks like boston basher, equalizer and gunboats were banned in EU despite them being allowed in NA. Obviously balance wasn't the issue to ban those, but rather that they changed the game a lot and the game was fun as it is. Don't fix what isn't broken, right?

You may call that era stale or boring, but for me and many others TF2 was fun. ETF2L actually tried to introduce some unlocks (mainly Equalizer, Bonk and pre-nerf Sandvich) in Season 9, but Prem teams protested against it and stopped playing, forcing ETF2L to return to the old whitelist back in Season 10. We could have adapted but it would have taken time to completely adjust to the changes so why bother? It's not like there is a money incentive to play an inferior game (in their minds at least).

I think the alienation of new people by banning weapons was the biggest reason why unlocks were being introduced and now that EU lost to NA very hard in i46 nailed the coffin for vanilla ruleset, which was now regarded as inferior. Now unlocks like gunboats and equalizer are standard unlocks in our game but in all honesty I would still play this game if no unlocks were allowed.

tl;dr: People in EU used to hate change, but nowadays this is definitely not the case.
694
#694
12 Frags +

Unpopular opinion: Buffing medic makes the game more stalematey because medic picks/forces are beginning to be the only reason to push anymore. Nerfing medic wouldn't be an ideal option either, as medic already is the least played class and could make medic unfun to play . I don't really have a solution for this problem.

Unpopular opinion: Buffing medic makes the game more stalematey because medic picks/forces are beginning to be the only reason to push anymore. Nerfing medic wouldn't be an ideal option either, as medic already is the least played class and could make medic unfun to play . I don't really have a solution for this problem.
695
#695
1 Frags +
gatsanjasmine tea will be in the final of i58Smesigatsanjasmine tea will win i58ftfy

not unpopular opinions sry

[quote=gatsan]jasmine tea will be in the final of i58[/quote]
[quote=Smesi][quote=gatsan]jasmine tea will win i58[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
not unpopular opinions sry
696
#696
-1 Frags +
Smesigatsanjasmine tea will win i58ftfy

i would be so happy omg

[quote=Smesi][quote=gatsan]jasmine tea will win i58[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]

i would be so happy omg
697
#697
13 Frags +

borh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58

borh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58
698
#698
0 Frags +
Smesiborh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58

Jasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.

[quote=Smesi]borh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58[/quote]

Jasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.
699
#699
15 Frags +
BBiA_duchessJasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.

When you have a meatshot machine / osu god on your team, anything can happen.

[quote=BBiA_duchess]Jasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.[/quote]

When you have a meatshot machine / osu god on your team, anything can happen.
700
#700
6 Frags +
Smesiborh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58

I'd say that au is also in a slump, losing so many talented players in the past 2 years (mainly from immunity)

[quote=Smesi]borh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58[/quote]
I'd say that au is also in a slump, losing so many talented players in the past 2 years (mainly from immunity)
701
#701
24 Frags +

muma should be cut from froyotech

muma should be cut from froyotech
702
#702
-4 Frags +
BBiA_duchessSmesiborh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58
Jasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.

Lego aren't playing at i58

[quote=BBiA_duchess][quote=Smesi]borh eu and na are in a slump so there's a good chance that au wins i58[/quote]

Jasmine might be able to beat LEGO, but perilious or crowns or froyo?. Don't think so.[/quote]
Lego aren't playing at i58
703
#703
4 Frags +
gatsanmuma should be cut from froyotech

He's quitting after i58.

[quote=gatsan]muma should be cut from froyotech[/quote]

He's quitting after i58.
704
#704
4 Frags +

Lego would've won i58 ya

Lego would've won i58 ya
705
#705
-1 Frags +

medic plays bore me
arrows are really fast its practically hitscan on any class that isnt scout
surfing is not very hard and you have to know how to do it on any other class

medic plays bore me
arrows are really fast its practically hitscan on any class that isnt scout
surfing is not very hard and you have to know how to do it on any other class
706
#706
0 Frags +

valve is going to try to turn 6's into hl

valve is going to try to turn 6's into hl
707
#707
22 Frags +
Bleghfuricvalve is going to try to turn 6's into hl

Valve knows classes are meant to be specialist and generalist, the game was designed to work that way

They just don't want to force people off their favorite classes (spy/pyro/engi/etc) so they're doing this half-assed effort to allow players onto the classes and not actually provide any in-game tips or popups saying shit like "ENGI AND PYRO ARE GREAT DEFENSE CLASSES BUT LACKLUSTER ATTACKERS, CONSULT YOUR TEAM ON WHEN THE BEST TIME TO SWITCH MIGHT BE!"

[quote=Bleghfuric]valve is going to try to turn 6's into hl[/quote]

Valve knows classes are meant to be specialist and generalist, the game was designed to work that way

They just don't want to force people off their favorite classes (spy/pyro/engi/etc) so they're doing this half-assed effort to allow players onto the classes and not actually provide any in-game tips or popups saying shit like "ENGI AND PYRO ARE GREAT DEFENSE CLASSES BUT LACKLUSTER ATTACKERS, CONSULT YOUR TEAM ON WHEN THE BEST TIME TO SWITCH MIGHT BE!"
708
#708
5 Frags +

i like idiots

i like idiots
709
#709
12 Frags +

I dislike it when people say "Valve knows (blank) as they did something similar years ago." The tf2 team is - to our understanding - a completely different roster of game devs than the devs when the game launched.

FUNKeBleghfuricvalve is going to try to turn 6's into hl
Valve knows classes are meant to be specialist and generalist, the game was designed to work that way

They just don't want to force people off their favorite classes (spy/pyro/engi/etc) so they're doing this half-assed effort to allow players onto the classes and not actually provide any in-game tips or popups saying shit like "ENGI AND PYRO ARE GREAT DEFENSE CLASSES BUT LACKLUSTER ATTACKERS, CONSULT YOUR TEAM ON WHEN THE BEST TIME TO SWITCH MIGHT BE!"

So valve certainly knew this at launch, and the comp scene is trying to hammer it home now, we still have to hammer quite a bit as they seem to be spinning their wheels.

I dislike it when people say "Valve knows (blank) as they did something similar years ago." The tf2 team is - to our understanding - a completely different roster of game devs than the devs when the game launched. [quote=FUNKe][quote=Bleghfuric]valve is going to try to turn 6's into hl[/quote]

Valve knows classes are meant to be specialist and generalist, the game was designed to work that way

They just don't want to force people off their favorite classes (spy/pyro/engi/etc) so they're doing this half-assed effort to allow players onto the classes and not actually provide any in-game tips or popups saying shit like "ENGI AND PYRO ARE GREAT DEFENSE CLASSES BUT LACKLUSTER ATTACKERS, CONSULT YOUR TEAM ON WHEN THE BEST TIME TO SWITCH MIGHT BE!"[/quote]

So valve certainly knew this at launch, and the comp scene is trying to hammer it home now, we still have to hammer quite a bit as they seem to be spinning their wheels.
710
#710
4 Frags +

imo hl demo is a lot more fun than 6s demo

imo hl demo is a lot more fun than 6s demo
711
#711
5 Frags +

Valve is starting to care about TF2

Valve is starting to care about TF2
712
#712
5 Frags +

We would've gotten more viewers if gf was na vs eu

We would've gotten more viewers if gf was na vs eu
713
#713
1 Frags +
Smesigatsanjasmine tea will win i58ftfy

ayyy 4th place curse

[quote=Smesi][quote=gatsan]jasmine tea will win i58[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
ayyy 4th place curse
714
#714
31 Frags +

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715
#715
7 Frags +

i really dislike getawhale

i really dislike getawhale
716
#716
-8 Frags +
Sam_FSWe would've gotten more viewers if gf was na vs eu

I actually didn't watch the i58 grand finals because of that, hate me or not I was just really not into watching eu vs eu when the two teams I was rooting for got knocked off, Jasmine Tea and Froyo...

[quote=Sam_FS]We would've gotten more viewers if gf was na vs eu[/quote]

I actually didn't watch the i58 grand finals because of that, hate me or not I was just really not into watching eu vs eu when the two teams I was rooting for got knocked off, Jasmine Tea and Froyo...
717
#717
4 Frags +

the day b4nny stops playing is the day NA will die (faster?)

the day b4nny stops playing is the day NA will die (faster?)
718
#718
0 Frags +
Endreoimo hl demo is a lot more fun than 6s demo

+100

[quote=Endreo]imo hl demo is a lot more fun than 6s demo[/quote]
+100
719
#719
1 Frags +

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720
#720
-9 Frags +

The soldier's whip is a great idea because it lets new players get to mid faster than walking without knowing the rollouts

its just too fast though

Edit: and should be something people can grow out if i mean

The soldier's whip is a great idea because it lets new players get to mid faster than walking without knowing the rollouts

its just too fast though

Edit: and should be something people can grow out if i mean
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