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#6 Slin talks whitelist, atomizer and base jumper ban in TF2 General Discussion

I still don't understand the point of the expanded whitelist, maybe someone could explain it to me?
Valve won't give a shit about the data and valve definitely listen to the what the community wants, they never have in TF2 and they never will. They struggle to do what the community wants in CSGO, what makes you think they'll do it in TF2? Valve only finally added MM and some support for the scene after TF2 finally got a direct competitor and not when it was obvious it would be a smart business decision (2010/2011 when SC2 and LoL really started to become big and eSports became more than a joke). If you want to point at DotA2 as a sign of valve being able to handle eSports, consider the fact that everyone that works on DotA does so because they want so and they love the game. Gabe Newell personally has an interest in the game and that goes a long mile to help the whole scene, a lot more than people can really be aware of I think anyway.

Gameplay won't improve, it seems like literally everyone is aware of this.. Last holds seems stronger even though they were already pretty difficult to break. Will more of the classes see more playtime? Maybe but probably not, and it's not like it matters because I would say most people don't really care about that too much.

The only argument I've really seen so far is that Valve will finally have data to balance weapons around and maybe more people would be willing to play competitive. Not only will valve not care about the data but it's already there, the simple fact that an item is banned means that there is something wrong with it and it doesn't take too much of a brain to figure out what's wrong especially if you play with the item in a pub or MM game for like 10 minutes.

If you think that somehow unbanning all these weapons gives us a "truer" TF2 experience then what the fuck have I been playing for the past 6 years cause that's the game I fell in love with, that's the game so many people fell in love with, it's why were here honestly and sure the weapons can be fun in pubs but I seriously fail to see how this gives a more dynamic, interesting and fun game that what we already have.

Pubbers also won't really give a crap. People start playing 6s/HL because they love the game and not being able to play with a few badly designed/overpowered unlocks isn't gonna stop them. I also just can't see someone saying "wow my favorite weapon got unbanned, it's time to finally start playing 6s/HL!" It just seems nuts to me, that's not a barrier that exists in this game.

If someone could give a reasonable explanation that'd be great because honestly I'm clueless about the whole thing.
And just FYI: I had no idea about this happening until rando asked for us to remove the whitelist during the scrim and Nursey explained the whitelist was getting bigger and noted something along the lines of "a few things are getting unbanned, nothing gamebreaking" but yet the atomizer and base jumper were on that whitelist...?

posted about 8 years ago
#59 froyotech adjusts roster after Insomnia58 in News
bearodactylSpaceCadetI don't think it matters what roles they interchange at this point.
This lineup is far ahead of any other invite team this season IMO. Should be an intense battle for 2nd place.
unless luca goers happens or they merge players with bird noises i don't see any other teams that could really contest EVL for 2nd place
assuming 20b 4rent and mad men are all memes that is

HMM

posted about 8 years ago
#36 Time for Na & Eu to start using the same ruleset ? in TF2 General Discussion

imo, winlimit is better than windifference because it gives the team who's ahead incentive to push by allowing them to close out the game

edit: and I'm just gonna add that in eu windifference was the standard because of football

posted about 8 years ago
#36 b4nny LAN? in TF2 General Discussion

na ruleset makes playing from behind while being passive bitches easier, it makes playing while ahead and being passive bitches harder

posted about 8 years ago
#34 Best/top5 player(s) in the world? in TF2 General Discussion

if we are talking about currently active
yomps/nursey/hass/shade/bdonski are pretty contentious

posted about 8 years ago
#14 Muma not playing for Froyo next season? in TF2 General Discussion
flufadyskyI heard LAN rumours about froyo hassassin
(Source: drunk muma)
Banny thinks hass is the best NA demo rn which is probably true but he's commited to Luca goers

"commited"

posted about 8 years ago
#17 b4nny LAN? in TF2 General Discussion
BaBsMore LANs would be great for TF2 as a whole, however, we would need more people to step up and take it seriously. If not then it will just be some version of Froyo rolling others. A lot of pros have already moved on which means for TF2 to survive professionally more people have to put in the time and effort to make it to the "Invite" level.

Lets be honest here, how many teams without the name Ronin or Froyo have an actual chance at winning ESEA Invite (taking nothing away from any other invite team but I mean come on lets be realistic), more or less a LAN. I don't see a lot of teams from other countries spending the time and money to come to the USA if the competition is mediocre at best.

there were 2 eu teams with the possibility of wining iseries, there has only even been 2 and usually only 1

I'm not exactly sure how this season will turn out but you're looking at 3 teams teams with the possibility of wining and then 2 teams that aren't that far off

posted about 8 years ago
#1 NA Shuffle ?? in TF2 General Discussion

I'm bored on a Monday so

randonski looking for a team (EVL? Bird noises?)
Yomps to EVL, Sen, delpo, scizor out
Luca Goers reform
Muma out of froyo
FROYO Hassassin?
#20believe? (l0l)
IcTus to 8K?

posted about 8 years ago
#10 How do the nations play? in TF2 General Discussion

nursey/shade
hass/bdonski
b4nny
blaze
yomps
shrugger

posted about 8 years ago
#5 How do the nations play? in TF2 General Discussion
Gerard-I think eu soldiers are better.

na did not send their best soldiers imo
au is by far the most aggressive
crowns is the most passive bitch team on the fucking planet
ft was all round nuts
eu gimmicks continue
na can back cap last really well
aus is not afraid of super scrappy fights (much more scrappy than I'd be comfortable with, which is super cool)
na has(had?) much heal heavier pockets in recent memory
na probably still has the best medics in nursey and shade

posted about 8 years ago
#11 i58 GF: Crowns eSports Club vs. Full Tilt in Matches
pendadoes crowns have any sort of advantage coming from the upper bracket? i feel like the format should be like esea where the lower bracket team has to reset the bracket instead of just winning one set

there's actually a pretty big advantage in not having to play after UBF cause you can watch the other games and rest up

posted about 8 years ago
#167 Kindest people you have played against/with in TF2 General Discussion

audie soapy yankee farns kig scarecrow grimmm nakeee

posted about 8 years ago
#22 After i58, do you think tf2 lans will go? in TF2 General Discussion

usually when talent is leaving, it's a good indicator that it's going downhill
but you can continue to believe that tf2 will grow and be huge just like your dreams if you want

posted about 8 years ago
#7 FaZe SDB and Forsaken in Esports
EvrewsSDB as in Shadowburn, the guy that begged for money for a new computer and left the community after? People really went mental for the guy for a few airshots

wow what a surprise people like to be entertained
woah what a surprise someone left for greener pastures

posted about 8 years ago
#6 bring back the invite happenings thread in Site Discussion

keep the news for the official stuff
I like the happenings thread so we can speculate cause it's funny

posted about 8 years ago
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