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UGC Season 30 + Updates on recent events
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#31
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Extrasolarso why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week

Are you seriously saying it's better to have him not be banned? Especially with all the shit that has been going on with the past few months?

In cases like these, it's better late than never.

[quote=Extrasolar]
so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week
[/quote]

Are you seriously saying it's better to have him not be banned? Especially with all the shit that has been going on with the past few months?

In cases like these, it's better late than never.
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#32
22 Frags +
shaayy
we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works

i thought we quarantined hl cringe to other forums years ago

[quote=shaayy]

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works[/quote]
i thought we quarantined hl cringe to other forums years ago
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#33
0 Frags +

can i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it

can i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it
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#34
11 Frags +
wishExtrasolarso why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week
Are you seriously saying it's better to have him not be banned? Especially with all the shit that has been going on with the past few months?

In cases like these, it's better late than never.

yes because sending an unsolicited photo of your penis to another adult is certainly comparable to using your clout as a top player/youtuber/whatever to persistently groom vulnerable underage members of the childrens cartoon shooting game community, saying every time some small drama about it leaked out that you're sorry and will change and then using your sexuality/gender identity/libido as a weapon against any naysayers to your egregious behaviour and going straight back to business as usual and continuing to e-diddle kids

notice how karl's ban is an indeterminate "lifetime with a minimum sentence of 1 year"
didnt all the nonces also get lifetime bans???

nobody's disputing what he did was more than just a little bit silly, and quite inappropriate, it's the timing of the ban that's really suspicious here friend, but if you try to lump that shit in with literal fucking paedophiles running rampant in the comp scene then I don't know what to tell you tbh

if it was such a big deal and the receiver of the images felt so threatened then why didn't they bring it up when it actually occurred instead of waiting until the team that they happen to share with the head admin of the league has a very real threat to its podium finish next season when arguably the best HL team the NA scene has ever had is reforming

didnt the person in question also have good ties with the ugc admins at the time, if thats the case its not like you can use the "but they had no voice" excuse

ugc banned people from the league for posting lewd images on the forums for christ's sake, do you really expect me to believe that they would've shrugged off that shit being sent in DMs

[quote=wish][quote=Extrasolar]
so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week
[/quote]

Are you seriously saying it's better to have him not be banned? Especially with all the shit that has been going on with the past few months?

In cases like these, it's better late than never.[/quote]

yes because sending an unsolicited photo of your penis to another adult is certainly comparable to using your clout as a top player/youtuber/whatever to persistently groom vulnerable underage members of the childrens cartoon shooting game community, saying every time some small drama about it leaked out that you're sorry and will change and then using your sexuality/gender identity/libido as a weapon against any naysayers to your egregious behaviour and going straight back to business as usual and continuing to e-diddle kids

notice how karl's ban is an indeterminate "lifetime with a minimum sentence of 1 year"
didnt all the nonces also get lifetime bans???

nobody's disputing what he did was more than just a little bit silly, and quite inappropriate, it's the timing of the ban that's really suspicious here friend, but if you try to lump that shit in with literal fucking paedophiles running rampant in the comp scene then I don't know what to tell you tbh

if it was such a big deal and the receiver of the images felt so threatened then why didn't they bring it up when it actually occurred instead of waiting until the team that they happen to share with the head admin of the league has a very real threat to its podium finish next season when arguably the best HL team the NA scene has ever had is reforming

didnt the person in question also have good ties with the ugc admins at the time, if thats the case its not like you can use the "but they had no voice" excuse

ugc banned people from the league for posting lewd images on the forums for christ's sake, do you really expect me to believe that they would've shrugged off that shit being sent in DMs
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#35
-1 Frags +

if people care so much about modifying game sound why does no one seem to care about soundscape removal, it very much makes things easier to hear

if people care so much about modifying game sound why does no one seem to care about soundscape removal, it very much makes things easier to hear
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#36
2 Frags +
aieraif people care so much about modifying game sound why does no one seem to care about soundscape removal, it very much makes things easier to hear

wait is that not bannable?

[quote=aiera]if people care so much about modifying game sound why does no one seem to care about soundscape removal, it very much makes things easier to hear[/quote]
wait is that not bannable?
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#37
5 Frags +

the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed

the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed
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#38
7 Frags +

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#39
3 Frags +
Nicholasbearodactylcan i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it
TLDR rgl banned dK Karl until 9999 and UGC just announced that hes not banned and theyre re-evaluating old bans for behavior in an attempt to regain some of the hl playerbase back. If people start going back it could split up and potentially kill HL (thats what i took away from this)

+ side note top pyro player got banned for decloak script, which has its own drama involved with convenient timing and shit

[quote=Nicholas][quote=bearodactyl]can i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it[/quote]
TLDR rgl banned dK Karl until 9999 and UGC just announced that hes not banned and theyre re-evaluating old bans for behavior in an attempt to regain some of the hl playerbase back. If people start going back it could split up and potentially kill HL (thats what i took away from this)[/quote]
+ side note top pyro player got banned for decloak script, which has its own drama involved with convenient timing and shit
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#40
UGC
10 Frags +
Nicholasbearodactylcan i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it
TLDR rgl banned dK Karl until 9999 and UGC just announced that hes not banned and theyre re-evaluating old bans for behavior in an attempt to regain some of the hl playerbase back. If people start going back it could split up and potentially kill HL (thats what i took away from this)

The old bans being reevaluated is due to there being some unjust bans under previous UGC administration. No one's trying to kill HL, quite the opposite rather. We are not trying to appeal to a certain fanbase, as a separate league than RGL, our league policies differ and as such we approach each case differently. It is a rushed call to assume that since our policies on these sorts of behaviors differ from RGL's that we are attempting to create a divide.

[quote=Nicholas][quote=bearodactyl]can i get a tldr i dont want to read all this shit
doesnt rgl actually have a nonzero amount of money why would anyone play ugc i dont get it[/quote]
TLDR rgl banned dK Karl until 9999 and UGC just announced that hes not banned and theyre re-evaluating old bans for behavior in an attempt to regain some of the hl playerbase back. If people start going back it could split up and potentially kill HL (thats what i took away from this)[/quote]

The old bans being reevaluated is due to there being some unjust bans under previous UGC administration. No one's trying to kill HL, quite the opposite rather. We are not trying to appeal to a certain fanbase, as a separate league than RGL, our league policies differ and as such we approach each case differently. It is a rushed call to assume that since our policies on these sorts of behaviors differ from RGL's that we are attempting to create a divide.
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#41
Stream Highlights
15 Frags +

I have never seen half of the people posting on this thread before

I have never seen half of the people posting on this thread before
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#42
0 Frags +
Air_the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed

it's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers.txt to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)

meanwhile no one bats an eye at changing surfaceproperties (can change footstep sound to the louder metal one) or removing soundscapes (which makes it much easier to hear rotates/build noise/uber crackle/voice lines)

[quote=Air_]the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed[/quote]
it's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers.txt to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)

meanwhile no one bats an eye at changing surfaceproperties (can change footstep sound to the louder metal one) or removing soundscapes (which makes it much easier to hear rotates/build noise/uber crackle/voice lines)
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#43
-5 Frags +
aieraAir_the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removedit's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)

no

[quote=aiera][quote=Air_]the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed[/quote]
it's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)[/quote]

no
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#44
5 Frags +
ExtrasolaraieraAir_the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removedit's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)
no

https://youtu.be/Kf_FuIdiIts

[quote=Extrasolar][quote=aiera][quote=Air_]the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed[/quote]
it's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)[/quote]

no[/quote]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/Kf_FuIdiIts[/youtube]
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#45
UGC
3 Frags +
Brockif you are gunna do ultiduo next year, can you please try and do bball as well? would rather play both of those along with 4's since RGL isnt doing it.

we'll look into the idea of it, but I can't guarantee anything at this point in time.

[quote=Brock]if you are gunna do ultiduo next year, can you please try and do bball as well? would rather play both of those along with 4's since RGL isnt doing it.[/quote]
we'll look into the idea of it, but I can't guarantee anything at this point in time.
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#46
2 Frags +
Extrasolarwishstuffother stuff

i think that wish was trying to say more along the lines of "getting rid of ppl we dont want in the community" which is what the overall goal was rather than lump him in with those ppl that we got rid of

i feel that harassment deserves some kind of penalty, as if it doesnt it kinda sets the precedent that this kind of action wont be punished in our community and could lead to more of this happening

Brockif you are gunna do ultiduo next year, can you please try and do bball as well? would rather play both of those along with 4's since RGL isnt doing it.

also +1 on this i love playing bball and would love to see it alive again

[quote=Extrasolar][quote=wish]
stuff[/quote]
other stuff[/quote]

i think that wish was trying to say more along the lines of "getting rid of ppl we dont want in the community" which is what the overall goal was rather than lump him in with those ppl that we got rid of

i feel that harassment deserves some kind of penalty, as if it doesnt it kinda sets the precedent that this kind of action wont be punished in our community and could lead to more of this happening

[quote=Brock]if you are gunna do ultiduo next year, can you please try and do bball as well? would rather play both of those along with 4's since RGL isnt doing it.[/quote]

also +1 on this i love playing bball and would love to see it alive again
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#47
5 Frags +

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240693342248239104/649070160090497044/grillingcover.jpg

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240693342248239104/649070160090497044/grillingcover.jpg[/img]
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#48
3 Frags +
aieraExtrasolaraieraAir_the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removedit's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)
no
https://youtu.be/Kf_FuIdiIts

hey look this guy used audio ducking and more extensive editing of game_sounds_player.txt (an atypical method considering the prominence of the thread surfacing a few months ago and other oddities that don't necessarily conform to such a hypothesis that I've written below)

never mind the fact that it's far less likely he'd actually take the time to perform such methods if he only used it for one or two matches, and the fact that he turns instantly upon the decloak button being pressed - meaning it's incredibly likely he put a short, high-volume sound over the decloak instead of this weird roundabout shit - that, despite removing falloff and boosting decloak frequencies would still be less noticeable until closer towards the peak of the decloak due to cluttered comms and general tomfoolery happening in-game

this clearly means that this method is the one river used because a youtube video exists of someone demonstrating it over demos

no easier to implement alternatives likely to be employed by a user for a short period of time exist guys, look this youtube video proves so

regardless even if he did use the method in the video and not a simpler one it literally doesn't change your argument at all - there's a huge fucking difference between removing useless background noise of birds chirping and wind blowing for the benefit of ALL other sounds (that actually matter and arent just irrelevant background noise) as opposed to making it so the spy class can never decloak far enough away from you to be unheard

that's like saying using noise reduction is the same as cranking your bass up to +5dB
that's like saying that using an fps config is the same as ESP because you can see through spammy choke points better

its genuinely one of the most retarded things ive read on this site and trust me thats an achievement when you consider the fact that i post here sometimes

[quote=aiera][quote=Extrasolar][quote=aiera][quote=Air_]the difference between soundscape removal and replacing the sound with a different sound completely is enormous, you can hear it from extremely far away much clearer than you can hear the default with soundscape removed[/quote]
it's not sound replacement, the script in question is using soundmixers to lower the volume of some sounds and raise those of others (namely decloaks and ubers)[/quote]

no[/quote]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/Kf_FuIdiIts[/youtube][/quote]

hey look this guy used audio ducking and more extensive editing of game_sounds_player.txt (an atypical method considering the prominence of the thread surfacing a few months ago and other oddities that don't necessarily conform to such a hypothesis that I've written below)

never mind the fact that it's far less likely he'd actually take the time to perform such methods if he only used it for one or two matches, and the fact that he turns instantly upon the decloak button being pressed - meaning it's incredibly likely he put a short, high-volume sound over the decloak instead of this weird roundabout shit - that, despite removing falloff and boosting decloak frequencies would still be less noticeable until closer towards the peak of the decloak due to cluttered comms and general tomfoolery happening in-game

this clearly means that this method is the one river used because a youtube video exists of someone demonstrating it over demos

no easier to implement alternatives likely to be employed by a user for a short period of time exist guys, look this youtube video proves so

regardless even if he did use the method in the video and not a simpler one it literally doesn't change your argument at all - there's a huge fucking difference between removing useless background noise of birds chirping and wind blowing for the benefit of ALL other sounds (that actually matter and arent just irrelevant background noise) as opposed to making it so the spy class can never decloak far enough away from you to be unheard

that's like saying using noise reduction is the same as cranking your bass up to +5dB
that's like saying that using an fps config is the same as ESP because you can see through spammy choke points better

its genuinely one of the most retarded things ive read on this site and trust me thats an achievement when you consider the fact that i post here sometimes
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#49
1 Frags +

you literally can just drop a single file in your custom folder to achieve audio like that, also that exact method was spread around like wildfire previously and resulted in loads of bans before the other method was posted about, i thought you were unaware of what i was referring to, instead you are trying to ackshully me on this shit.
either way the method i described is banned despite merely being a change in the volume of ingame sounds to make other sounds more prominent. you have no idea what river used, and neither do i, that doesn't change the fact that the method i described is banned
i know it's anecdotal but i personally find that removing soundscapes makes it much easier to soundwhore

you literally can just drop a single file in your custom folder to achieve audio like that, also that exact method was spread around like wildfire previously and resulted in loads of bans before the other method was posted about, i thought you were unaware of what i was referring to, instead you are trying to ackshully me on this shit.
either way the method i described is banned despite merely being a change in the volume of ingame sounds to make other sounds more prominent. you have no idea what river used, and neither do i, that doesn't change the fact that the method i described is banned
i know it's anecdotal but i personally find that removing soundscapes makes it [b]much[/b] easier to soundwhore
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#50
6 Frags +

Who is extrasolar?

Who is extrasolar?
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#51
-5 Frags +

semantics andy

semantics andy
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#52
14 Frags +
shaayyExtrasolarfigsysplitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/
trapsterandrew-what did karl doKarl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.
so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works

where is your ego coming from shay? you're edgy, not badass

I, on the other hand, am a funny badass

[quote=shaayy][quote=Extrasolar][quote=figsy]splitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues[/quote]

[img]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/[/img]

[quote=trapster][quote=andrew-]what did karl do[/quote]
Karl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.[/quote]

so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........[/quote]

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works[/quote]

where is your ego coming from shay? you're edgy, not badass

I, on the other hand, am a funny badass
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#53
-5 Frags +

lol hl

lol hl
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#54
22 Frags +
shaayyExtrasolarfigsysplitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/
trapsterandrew-what did karl doKarl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.
so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works

While you were moving thru plat/ invite I can recall you hated so many people for acting the way you currently are right now; it really pains me to watch you act like this as both your friend and your teammate.

[quote=shaayy][quote=Extrasolar][quote=figsy]splitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues[/quote]

[img]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/[/img]

[quote=trapster][quote=andrew-]what did karl do[/quote]
Karl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.[/quote]

so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........[/quote]

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works[/quote]

While you were moving thru plat/ invite I can recall you hated so many people for acting the way you currently are right now; it really pains me to watch you act like this as both your friend and your teammate.
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#55
5 Frags +
RonnieJshaayyExtrasolarfigsysplitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/
trapsterandrew-what did karl doKarl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.
so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works

While you were moving thru plat/ invite I can recall you hated so many people for acting the way you currently are right now; it really pains me to watch you act like this as both your friend and your teammate.

hi

[quote=RonnieJ][quote=shaayy][quote=Extrasolar][quote=figsy]splitting the community further will be the nail in the coffin for the highlander format. rgl is fine, exa is a great admin who actually cares and is involved with the community unlike anyone at ugc. stop trying to capitalize on the river/karl drama when ugc had the exact same issues[/quote]

[img]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/793126531758816320/489ABD3CBA6154C6A549935C04EA86ECF93AC243/[/img]

[quote=trapster][quote=andrew-]what did karl do[/quote]
Karl sent a dick pic to a female player 2 years ago, and that incident along with some other behaviors led to him getting banned now.[/quote]

so why wasnt he banned when rgl was created instead of the same week he has 6/9 players confirmed for a dK remake with bowl - when knd is now dead and the team with a highlander head admin on it is currently sitting top of invite almost uncontested

really activates the almonds..........[/quote]

we're sitting at the top of the league uncontested because every other team is dogshit and cant beat us

weird how that works[/quote]

While you were moving thru plat/ invite I can recall you hated so many people for acting the way you currently are right now; it really pains me to watch you act like this as both your friend and your teammate.[/quote]


hi
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#56
7 Frags +

rgl and ugc are both dogshit at dealing with bans because they're both grass roots leagues and everyone is in a circlejerk of which there can be overlap, the only time this wasn't an issue in any league afaik was with ESEA, which had it's own slew of problems

that aside, in my experience rgl highlander has been much more proactive and transparent with general league management otherwise, i co-led teams in some of my first seasons in ugc and trying to get any sort of support or understand what was happening with maps and configs was like throwing rocks at a brick wall, there was simply no fallback help at all, so despite it being an institution i'd still choose rgl over ugc

the 6s league needs a lot of work still though

but this particular situation is a highlander one and highlander is a meme so whatever lmao

rgl and ugc are both dogshit at dealing with bans because they're both grass roots leagues and everyone is in a circlejerk of which there can be overlap, the only time this wasn't an issue in any league afaik was with ESEA, which had it's own slew of problems

that aside, in my experience rgl highlander has been much more proactive and transparent with general league management otherwise, i co-led teams in some of my first seasons in ugc and trying to get any sort of support or understand what was happening with maps and configs was like throwing rocks at a brick wall, there was simply no fallback help at all, so despite it being an institution i'd still choose rgl over ugc

the 6s league needs a lot of work still though

but this particular situation is a highlander one and highlander is a meme so whatever lmao
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