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twiikuuI never intended for the warning I sent you through private message to sound like I'm preventing you from using dark/edgy humor within the rules of the forum. I've warned you against using racially charged slurs and discouraged you from discussing social issues, as you have a history of antagonistic behavior.
Yes, I'm aware that it sucks getting punished for purposefully using racially charged slurs ironically or in whatever context where no actual offense is meant.
The issue is in that, this being a public forum in textual form, it's easy for anyone to misinterpret what you're saying for actual offense and do their best to avoid the forums because of that. It is stupid and unfortunate but it's also how we prevent the forum from becoming a literal dumpster fire.
Yes, I agree, it's tiring dealing with people, especially when they refuse to take your point of view.
You have to understand, we're not trying to make this place a "safe space", TFTV definitely wouldn't be the same if we stopped being lax on moderation, but there's a balance we have to aim for.
I don't enjoy playing police, I wish it wasn't necessary and it takes a toll on my mental health, I'm sure you (plural) don't enjoy 10 page long threads about really stupid drama, it's not hard to avoid this from happening altogether, but it's up to you to make sure it doesn't.

On this thread "http://www.teamfortress.tv/50522/why-are-so-many-people-in-tf2-sub-humans"; Yes, a thread titled "why are so many people in tf2 "sub-humans" which is pretty offensive to begin with and something I wouldn't even make myself I decided to post a joke in the context of the thread. I posted the joke and it got nuked and I got sent the following message from twiikuu:

"Hey Sheepy,

We had a deal, you get to come back if you don't engage in that shit again, and here I find this post:

"Everyone is created equal in God's eyes, apart from british nunya and gypsies."

It's not exactly ban worthy but your case is different, you're already on your very last chance.
I can assure you nobody in Moderation is exactly keen on you tackling social problems already.

You've been warned, don't fuck up."

Now if you actually take some time to read the thread in which I posted this, you may see that people are making far more offensive jokes than the one I had made. Nobody else in that thread got a PM from an admin that they are about to get banned if they post anything else that somebody might find offensive but because it was me, I get my very last warning to once again be perma-banned from posting on tftv.

Not that this has anything to do with TFTV, but the last time I posted something insightful when kaidus was streaming Twiikuu was quick to reply with a lol sheepy post comment saying:

"you've made the mistake of reading a sheepy post kaidus"

Based Kaidus was quick to reply to him telling him i'm not trolling and actually trying to provide insight.

Twikkuu obviously has some sort of personal beef with me maybe for something I said like 4 years ago and it definitely does make me feel like I cannot say anything that may offend somebody (especially an admin like him) on these fourms and despite it being years since my ban I still have to check everything I post to make sure it won't offend since if I do offend someone I am banned again for another 4 years.

[quote=twiikuu]
I never intended for the warning I sent you through private message to sound like I'm preventing you from using dark/edgy humor within the rules of the forum. I've warned you against using racially charged slurs and discouraged you from discussing social issues, as you have a history of antagonistic behavior.
Yes, I'm aware that it sucks getting punished for purposefully using racially charged slurs ironically or in whatever context where no actual offense is meant.
The issue is in that, this being a public forum in textual form, it's easy for anyone to misinterpret what you're saying for actual offense and do their best to avoid the forums because of that. It is stupid and unfortunate but it's also how we prevent the forum from becoming a literal dumpster fire.
Yes, I agree, it's tiring dealing with people, especially when they refuse to take your point of view.
You have to understand, we're not trying to make this place a "safe space", TFTV definitely wouldn't be the same if we stopped being lax on moderation, but there's a balance we have to aim for.
I don't enjoy playing police, I wish it wasn't necessary and it takes a toll on my mental health, I'm sure you (plural) don't enjoy 10 page long threads about really stupid drama, it's not hard to avoid this from happening altogether, but it's up to you to make sure it doesn't.[/quote]

On this thread "http://www.teamfortress.tv/50522/why-are-so-many-people-in-tf2-sub-humans" Yes, a thread titled "why are so many people in tf2 "sub-humans" which is pretty offensive to begin with and something I wouldn't even make myself I decided to post a joke in the context of the thread. I posted the joke and it got nuked and I got sent the following message from twiikuu:

"Hey Sheepy,

We had a deal, you get to come back if you don't engage in that shit again, and here I find this post:

"Everyone is created equal in God's eyes, apart from british nunya and gypsies."

It's not exactly ban worthy but your case is different, you're already on your very last chance.
I can assure you nobody in Moderation is exactly keen on you tackling social problems already.

You've been warned, don't fuck up."

Now if you actually take some time to read the thread in which I posted this, you may see that people are making far more offensive jokes than the one I had made. Nobody else in that thread got a PM from an admin that they are about to get banned if they post anything else that somebody might find offensive but because it was me, I get my very last warning to once again be perma-banned from posting on tftv.

Not that this has anything to do with TFTV, but the last time I posted something insightful when kaidus was streaming Twiikuu was quick to reply with a lol sheepy post comment saying:

"you've made the mistake of reading a sheepy post kaidus"

Based Kaidus was quick to [url=https://clips.twitch.tv/TrappedFurtiveQuailSoonerLater]reply[/url] to him telling him i'm not trolling and actually trying to provide insight.

Twikkuu obviously has some sort of personal beef with me maybe for something I said like 4 years ago and it definitely does make me feel like I cannot say anything that may offend somebody (especially an admin like him) on these fourms and despite it being years since my ban I still have to check everything I post to make sure it won't offend since if I do offend someone I am banned again for another 4 years.
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#32
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the yangsheng dynasty must rise again

the yangsheng dynasty must rise again
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#33
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I Stand With Sheepy

I Stand With Sheepy
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#34
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sheepy_dogs_handOn this thread "http://www.teamfortress.tv/50522/why-are-so-many-people-in-tf2-sub-humans"; Yes, a thread titled "why are so many people in tf2 "sub-humans" which is pretty offensive to begin with and something I wouldn't even make myself

I don't see anything breaking the rules to the extent where a nuke/ban is necessary ("fkn autist" probably should have been nuked but that's a bit too late for that now); when I mention offense in my previous thread, I'm not laying down new rules that aren't written down in the site rules (http://www.teamfortress.tv/s/rules), I'm explaining why using racial slurs, even in a context where the offense is not meant, is still against the rules.
It is a pure garbage thread, I can attest to that, it's also in the dumpster.

sheepy_dogs_handNobody else in that thread got a PM from an admin that they are about to get banned if they post anything else that somebody might find offensive but because it was me, I get my very last warning to once again be perma-banned from posting on tftv.

Not that this has anything to do with TFTV, but the last time I posted something insightful when kaidus was streaming Twiikuu was quick to reply with a lol sheepy post comment saying:

"you've made the mistake of reading a sheepy post kaidus"

Based Kaidus was quick to reply to him telling him i'm not trolling and actually trying to provide insight.

Twikkuu obviously has some sort of personal beef with me maybe for something I said like 4 years ago and it definitely does make me feel like I cannot say anything that may offend somebody (especially an admin like him) on these fourms and despite it being years since my ban I still have to check everything I post to make sure it won't offend since if I do offend someone I am banned again for another 4 years.

That's right, you do get special treatment and that's because you've been granted a second chance against all odds, not because you're sheepy_dogs_hand. I actually went out of my way to give you a literal third chance when I could just have permabanned you on the basis that you broke the deal you've made with whoever you talked to.
Yes, I did post the equivalent of "har har its sheepy" in Twitch chat, when you answered with "twiikuu shut up", it was hard to read whether you were actually hurt or playfully paying back, if you are mentioning this in good faith then I apologize, however this has nothing to do with TFTV.
I'm sorry you feel that I have beef with you but I can assert that you're wrong, here is a log from TFTV's #moderation staff channel on Nov 20

https://i.imgur.com/3S2B7KU.png

I vouched for your unban and had no clue about the specifics of your initial ban.

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
On this thread "http://www.teamfortress.tv/50522/why-are-so-many-people-in-tf2-sub-humans" Yes, a thread titled "why are so many people in tf2 "sub-humans" which is pretty offensive to begin with and something I wouldn't even make myself[/quote]
I don't see anything breaking the rules to the extent where a nuke/ban is necessary ("fkn autist" probably should have been nuked but that's a bit too late for that now); when I mention offense in my previous thread, I'm not laying down new rules that aren't written down in the site rules (http://www.teamfortress.tv/s/rules), I'm explaining why using racial slurs, even in a context where the offense is not meant, is still against the rules.
It is a pure garbage thread, I can attest to that, it's also in the dumpster.

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
Nobody else in that thread got a PM from an admin that they are about to get banned if they post anything else that somebody might find offensive but because it was me, I get my very last warning to once again be perma-banned from posting on tftv.

Not that this has anything to do with TFTV, but the last time I posted something insightful when kaidus was streaming Twiikuu was quick to reply with a lol sheepy post comment saying:

"you've made the mistake of reading a sheepy post kaidus"

Based Kaidus was quick to [url=https://clips.twitch.tv/TrappedFurtiveQuailSoonerLater]reply[/url] to him telling him i'm not trolling and actually trying to provide insight.

Twikkuu obviously has some sort of personal beef with me maybe for something I said like 4 years ago and it definitely does make me feel like I cannot say anything that may offend somebody (especially an admin like him) on these fourms and despite it being years since my ban I still have to check everything I post to make sure it won't offend since if I do offend someone I am banned again for another 4 years.[/quote]

That's right, you do get special treatment and that's because you've been granted a second chance against all odds, not because you're sheepy_dogs_hand. I actually went out of my way to give you a literal third chance when I could just have permabanned you on the basis that you broke the deal you've made with whoever you talked to.
Yes, I did post the equivalent of "har har its sheepy" in Twitch chat, when you answered with "twiikuu shut up", it was hard to read whether you were actually hurt or playfully paying back, if you are mentioning this in good faith then I apologize, however this has nothing to do with TFTV.
I'm sorry you feel that I have beef with you but I can assert that you're wrong, here is a log from TFTV's #moderation staff channel on Nov 20
[img]https://i.imgur.com/3S2B7KU.png[/img]
I vouched for your unban and had no clue about the specifics of your initial ban.
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#35
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twiikuuI don't see anything breaking the rules to the extent where a nuke/ban is necessary ("fkn autist" probably should have been nuked but that's a bit too late for that now); when I mention offense in my previous thread, I'm not laying down new rules that aren't written down in the site rules (http://www.teamfortress.tv/s/rules), I'm explaining why using racial slurs, even in a context where the offense is not meanMankyBrits are subhumans

But you have no problem with that post because I wasn't the one who posted it even though he is calling Brits subhuman! Also, Gypsy is not a racial slur, maybe read about it here, I did not use any racial slurs.

twiikuuThat's right, you do get special treatment and that's because you've been granted a second chance against all odds, not because you're sheepy_dogs_hand. I actually went out of my way to give you a literal third chance when I could just have permabanned you on the basis that you broke the deal you've made with whoever you talked to.

I've been granted a 2nd chance against all odds (after being banned for 4 years) and you could have just permabanned me again for making a mildly edgy joke in a thread full of edgy jokes so now you've given me a THIRD chance to not get permabanned again.

What is wrong with these tftv admins

[quote=twiikuu]
I don't see anything breaking the rules to the extent where a nuke/ban is necessary ("fkn autist" probably should have been nuked but that's a bit too late for that now); when I mention offense in my previous thread, I'm not laying down new rules that aren't written down in the site rules (http://www.teamfortress.tv/s/rules), I'm explaining why using racial slurs, even in a context where the offense is not mean[/quote]

[quote=Manky]Brits are subhumans[/quote]

But you have no problem with that post because I wasn't the one who posted it even though he is calling Brits subhuman! Also, Gypsy is not a racial slur, maybe read about [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Gypsy_and_Traveller_groups]it here[/url], I did not use any racial slurs.

[quote=twiikuu]
That's right, you do get special treatment and that's because you've been granted a second chance against all odds, not because you're sheepy_dogs_hand. I actually went out of my way to give you a literal third chance when I could just have permabanned you on the basis that you broke the deal you've made with whoever you talked to.
[/quote]

I've been granted a 2nd chance against all odds (after being banned for 4 years) and you could have just permabanned me again for making a mildly edgy joke in a thread full of edgy jokes so now you've given me a THIRD chance to not get permabanned again.

What is wrong with these tftv admins
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#36
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#37
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Doesn't matter whether or not gypsy is a racial slur, you called them subhumans u absolute mong

Doesn't matter whether or not gypsy is a racial slur, you called them subhumans u absolute mong
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#38
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nykDoesn't matter whether or not gypsy is a racial slur, you called them subhumans u absolute mong

In a thread entitled "Why are so many people in tf2 sub-humans?" where people were making jokes about various groups of people being subhuman. I was making an edgy joke.

[quote=nyk]Doesn't matter whether or not gypsy is a racial slur, you called them subhumans u absolute mong[/quote]

In a thread entitled "Why are so many people in tf2 sub-humans?" where people were making jokes about various groups of people being subhuman. I was making an edgy joke.
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#39
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Is It Ok To Be Mean threads are now even more common than TF2Center Is Bad threads :/

Is It Ok To Be Mean threads are now even more common than TF2Center Is Bad threads :/
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#40
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how did this turn into a sheepy thread

how did this turn into a sheepy thread
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#41
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All_Over_RShow did this turn into a sheepy thread

Asking the real questions here

[quote=All_Over_RS]how did this turn into a sheepy thread[/quote]
Asking the real questions here
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#42
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Firemeanie admin bans me for breaking rules >:(

repeatedly

rmtthe yangsheng dynasty must rise again

enigma permas people and doesn't care lmao, trust me the current mod team is more lenient than he is

[quote=Fire]meanie admin bans me for breaking rules >:([/quote]

repeatedly

[quote=rmt]the yangsheng dynasty must rise again[/quote]

enigma permas people and doesn't care lmao, trust me the current mod team is more lenient than he is
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#43
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/40963/discussion-on-the-abuse-of-power-in-our-community
its so tiring, every time

http://www.teamfortress.tv/40963/discussion-on-the-abuse-of-power-in-our-community
its so tiring, every time
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#44
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All_Over_RShow did this turn into a sheepy thread

Hey now that one is definitely on twiikuu here check page 1

gemmrepeatedly

Ok I admit I broke the rules (once in this case in fair context) i'll make sure to not break the rules again and double check my posts with admins or maybe gemm you can help to make sure my posts will be unlikely to offend or cause harm to anyone in anyway.

Just hope everyone is having a great day today twikkuu lets not fall out again and become friends and move on.

Back to thread discussion fuck youtube and everyone who works for them though.

[quote=All_Over_RS]how did this turn into a sheepy thread[/quote]

Hey now that one is definitely on twiikuu here check page 1

[quote=gemm]
repeatedly
[/quote]

Ok I admit I broke the rules (once in this case in fair context) i'll make sure to not break the rules again and double check my posts with admins or maybe gemm you can help to make sure my posts will be unlikely to offend or cause harm to anyone in anyway.

Just hope everyone is having a great day today twikkuu lets not fall out again and become friends and move on.

Back to thread discussion fuck youtube and everyone who works for them though.
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sheepy_dogs_handOk I admit I broke the rules (once in this case in fair context)

>once

im talking about the series of bans that led you to be permad, what part of final warning don't you get lmao

if you REALLY want a mod to check your post sure, pm one of us, but in general if you think it might be iffy you probably COULD in all fairness just remove anything that might unfairly target someone. there really is zero need to try to find the line and stay on it

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]Ok I admit I broke the rules (once in this case in fair context)[/quote]

>once

im talking about the series of bans that led you to be permad, what part of final warning don't you get lmao

if you REALLY want a mod to check your post sure, pm one of us, but in general if you think it might be iffy you probably COULD in all fairness just remove anything that might unfairly target someone. there really is zero need to try to find the line and stay on it
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https://i.imgur.com/QSjLPWe.png

dumpster this

[img]https://i.imgur.com/QSjLPWe.png[/img]
dumpster this
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#47
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this is actually funny but sad

this is actually funny but sad
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#48
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The only solution is ban all EU players. I hate to see it but it needs to be done.

The only solution is ban all EU players. I hate to see it but it needs to be done.
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sheepy_dogs_handmaybe gemm you can help to make sure my posts will be unlikely to offend or cause harm to anyone in anyway.

they already did that once and you didn't seem to like it

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
maybe gemm you can help to make sure my posts will be unlikely to offend or cause harm to anyone in anyway.
[/quote]
they already did that once and you didn't seem to like it
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