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TF2 UPDATE FOR 21DEC2016
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#91
-9 Frags +
HoppsWhy disabling cp_snakewater, Valve?

As if this is the problem.
Competitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.

[quote=Hopps]Why disabling cp_snakewater, Valve?[/quote]
As if this is the problem.
Competitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.
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#92
13 Frags +

Why listen to and apply the lessons the competitive community learned over 23 ESEA Seasons, 25 ETF2L Seasons, 16 OzFortress Seasons, etc..... Valve already knew what was best for competitive.....

Why listen to and apply the lessons the competitive community learned over 23 ESEA Seasons, 25 ETF2L Seasons, 16 OzFortress Seasons, etc..... Valve already knew what was best for competitive.....
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#93
8 Frags +

The new voice codec is the default for all servers now.

The new voice codec is the default for all servers now.
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#94
-7 Frags +

The new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.

The new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.
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#95
-10 Frags +

You know what? No. I'm trough with Valve. I'm trough with the no communication. I'm trough with everything being postphoned indefinitely. I'm trough with them still not fixing the major bugs in the game. I'm trough with them publishing half-assed updates. I'm trough with instead of getting all that, getting actually enjoyable updates, we get a shitton of useless cosmetics.
I get that all this doesn't concern your point, but I don't think now should be the time to defend Valve. Maybe some our suggestions are not completely right, they are still sending Valve a message, which is absolutely nessecary. Valve needs to change their ways.

You know what? No. I'm trough with Valve. I'm trough with the no communication. I'm trough with everything being postphoned indefinitely. I'm trough with them still not fixing the major bugs in the game. I'm trough with them publishing half-assed updates. I'm trough with instead of getting all that, getting actually enjoyable updates, we get a shitton of useless cosmetics.
I get that all this doesn't concern your point, but I don't think now should be the time to defend Valve. Maybe some our suggestions are not completely right, they are still sending Valve a message, which is absolutely nessecary. Valve needs to change their ways.
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#96
marketplace.tf
21 Frags +
YeeHawtrough
[quote=YeeHaw][b]trough[/b][/quote]
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#97
13 Frags +
YeeHawYou know what? No. I'm trough with Valve. I'm trough with the no communication. I'm trough with everything being postphoned indefinitely. I'm trough with them still not fixing the major bugs in the game. I'm trough with them publishing half-assed updates. I'm trough with instead of getting all that, getting actually enjoyable updates, we get a shitton of useless cosmetics.
I get that all this doesn't concern your point, but I don't think now should be the time to defend Valve. Maybe some our suggestions are not completely right, they are still sending Valve a message, which is absolutely nessecary. Valve needs to change their ways.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CVanQfF-7vM/TI_2w2R_kdI/AAAAAAAADCE/kyTNeAo0V9w/s1600/HogTroughWashingtonKY2010.jpg

you wanted through

[quote=YeeHaw]You know what? No. I'm trough with Valve. I'm trough with the no communication. I'm trough with everything being postphoned indefinitely. I'm trough with them still not fixing the major bugs in the game. I'm trough with them publishing half-assed updates. I'm trough with instead of getting all that, getting actually enjoyable updates, we get a shitton of useless cosmetics.
I get that all this doesn't concern your point, but I don't think now should be the time to defend Valve. Maybe some our suggestions are not completely right, they are still sending Valve a message, which is absolutely nessecary. Valve needs to change their ways.[/quote]


[img]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CVanQfF-7vM/TI_2w2R_kdI/AAAAAAAADCE/kyTNeAo0V9w/s1600/HogTroughWashingtonKY2010.jpg[/img]

you wanted through
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#98
-19 Frags +

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#99
16 Frags +
Fireyes, why dont you noobs from valve listen to the people that manage to get 600 people watching the world championship grand final live???
go back to dota scrubs -.-

first off i58 got like 7k viewers
second off your point doesn't even make sense, tf2 has low viewership because valve has killed this game into the ground and people quit for a more lucrative opportunity

[quote=Fire]
yes, why dont you noobs from valve listen to the people that manage to get 600 people watching the world championship grand final live???
go back to dota scrubs -.-[/quote]
first off i58 got like 7k viewers
second off your point doesn't even make sense, tf2 has low viewership because valve has killed this game into the ground and people quit for a more lucrative opportunity
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#100
6 Frags +
DatDrummerGuyThe new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.

Really? Last night I didn't even know about this and I could hear people's voices way clearer than usual. It may not be Mumble or Discord but it's usable at least

[quote=DatDrummerGuy]The new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.[/quote]

Really? Last night I didn't even know about this and I could hear people's voices way clearer than usual. It may not be Mumble or Discord but it's usable at least
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#101
-4 Frags +
4hpDatDrummerGuyThe new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.
Really? Last night I didn't even know about this and I could hear people's voices way clearer than usual. It may not be Mumble or Discord but it's usable at least

Well, it's probably better, but seeing how they literally copy/pasted it from CS:GO, why can't they make the quality as good?

Also, has anyone tested the delay now?

[quote=4hp][quote=DatDrummerGuy]The new voice codec is on by default on all servers, but I don't see any noticeable difference to be honest. I'm jealous of how good it sounds in CS:GO.[/quote]

Really? Last night I didn't even know about this and I could hear people's voices way clearer than usual. It may not be Mumble or Discord but it's usable at least[/quote]

Well, it's probably better, but seeing how they literally copy/pasted it from CS:GO, why can't they make the quality as good?

Also, has anyone tested the delay now?
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#102
3 Frags +

The quality is the same *edit: in tf2 and cs:go, as of the smissmas update

It's the exact same audio codec, any difference you think you noticed is from your bias of what to expect, or the quality of somebody's mic.

The quality is the same *edit: in tf2 and cs:go, as of the smissmas update

It's the exact same audio codec, any difference you think you noticed is from your bias of what to expect, or the quality of somebody's mic.
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#103
1 Frags +
CitricThe quality is the same

It's the exact same audio codec, any difference you think you noticed is from your bias of what to expect, or the quality of somebody's mic.
TF team- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers

- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with sv_use_steam_voice 1
[quote=Citric]The quality is the same

It's the exact same audio codec, any difference you think you noticed is from your bias of what to expect, or the quality of somebody's mic.[/quote]
[quote=TF team]
- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers

- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with sv_use_steam_voice 1[/quote]
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#104
3 Frags +
DatDrummerGuyCitricsnip

I think he meant that the quality from CSGO is the same as in TF2 now, not that it's the same from before this update.

[quote=DatDrummerGuy][quote=Citric]snip[/quote][/quote]
I think he meant that the quality from CSGO is the same as in TF2 now, not that it's the same from before this update.
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#105
-4 Frags +
pop7upDatDrummerGuyCitricsnipI think he meant that the quality from CSGO is the same as in TF2 now, not that it's the same from before this update.

Well it's not the same as in CS:GO, at all. Tested with friends.

[quote=pop7up][quote=DatDrummerGuy][quote=Citric]snip[/quote][/quote]
I think he meant that the quality from CSGO is the same as in TF2 now, not that it's the same from before this update.[/quote]

Well it's not the same as in CS:GO, at all. Tested with friends.
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#106
4 Frags +
DatDrummerGuyWell it's not the same as in CS:GO, at all. Tested with friends.

it's literally the exact same codec

are you sure your audio quality isn't worse in tf2 than it is in csgo or vice-versa

[quote=DatDrummerGuy]Well it's not the same as in CS:GO, at all. Tested with friends.[/quote]
it's literally the exact same codec

are you sure your audio quality isn't worse in tf2 than it is in csgo or vice-versa
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#107
0 Frags +

Both on high. Could someone record a video of someone talking with the new codec in TF2? I'm curious. The TF2 voicechat still sounds like a bag of chips for me.

But if it's only a problem on my end, I'm really happy we got that codec update. Feels good for faceit and eventually MM when (if) it gets fixed.

Both on high. Could someone record a video of someone talking with the new codec in TF2? I'm curious. The TF2 voicechat still sounds like a bag of chips for me.

But if it's only a problem on my end, I'm really happy we got that codec update. Feels good for faceit and eventually MM when (if) it gets fixed.
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#108
10 Frags +
biskuitCompetitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.

I honestly can't believe we still don't have placement matches or seemingly any working elo system at all

[quote=biskuit]
Competitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.[/quote]

I honestly can't believe we still don't have placement matches or seemingly any working elo system at all
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#109
5 Frags +
MouldbiskuitCompetitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.

I honestly can't believe we still don't have placement matches or seemingly any working elo system at all

Well come on give them slack, they only had dota2 and cs:go's already established matchmaking frameworks to use as a starting point completely ignore in building TF2's matchmaking.

[quote=Mould][quote=biskuit]
Competitive is a fucking joke, when you see the types of players you are matched with you'll start to realize that the TF Team is easily the worst dev team to ever work for Valve.
They are seriously a fucking disgrace, they fucked this game in the ass.
It had a tiny bit of potential but now it is just an outdated casual game with no competitive future.[/quote]

I honestly can't believe we still don't have placement matches or seemingly any working elo system at all[/quote]
Well come on give them slack, they only had dota2 and cs:go's already established matchmaking frameworks to [s]use as a starting point[/s] [i]completely ignore[/i] in building TF2's matchmaking.
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