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Banned without reason twice
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I have recently been banned from the site with no reason or any information given.

This happened for the second time. A month or so ago, I was suddenly banned as well, which lasted for about a week and then it was fixed. I assumed it was a bug.

When it happened for the second time just now, I was forced to pester mana on steam, because the IRC was/is dead.
Mana kindly unbanned me and let me know that it was not a bug, but in fact a staff member who banned me because of "some post I made on the forums".

Since he understandably didn't want to tell me the details, I feel compelled to make this thread.

I think everyone who reads this will agree with me that I don't really shipost on here; certainly not to the degree that a lot of members do. These are the last posts I made prior to being banned:

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Obviously, nothing banworthy is going on here, and anyone interested can check my post history to find out that neither was there anything further back.

Since I cannot see how I have ever violated any forum rules, and there was no information given with either ban (no pm or anything of the sort to even let me know I'm banned, which I only found out trying to make a post), I request with this thread that the staff member in question either explain the reasons for my repeated bans here or via PM.

The fact that mana unbanned me right away (saying that he "doesn't agree with the ban") proves my point that I was probably banned just because some staff member disliked my posts for whatever reason. Because of this, I wasn't able to participate in any i58 threads.

I'm only used this kind of behavior from tf2center staff and I'd rather not deal with it on this site.
I hope the situation will be resolved respectfully, but I will make a screenshot of this thread and in case it gets deleted and I get banned again, I will re-post it from an alt until I get told a reason not to, or enigma, being the owner, tells me he wants me to stop, in which case I guess I'll just have to leave the site. But to be honest, I have no idea why enigma, or any tf.tv staff would want this, so I hope the responsible staff will reply, because I'm genuinely curious.

[b]I have recently been banned from the site with no reason or any information given. [/b]

This happened for the second time. A month or so ago, I was suddenly banned as well, which lasted for about a week and then it was fixed. I assumed it was a bug.

When it happened for the second time just now, I was forced to pester mana on steam, because the IRC was/is dead.
Mana kindly unbanned me and let me know that it was not a bug, but in fact a staff member who banned me because of "some post I made on the forums".

Since he understandably didn't want to tell me the details, I feel compelled to make this thread.

I think everyone who reads this will agree with me that I don't really shipost on here; certainly not to the degree that a lot of members do. These are the last posts I made prior to being banned:
[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/AqIrdD2.png[/img][/spoiler]
Obviously, nothing banworthy is going on here, and anyone interested can check my post history to find out that neither was there anything further back.

Since I cannot see how I have ever violated any forum rules, and there was no information given with either ban (no pm or anything of the sort to even let me know I'm banned, which I only found out trying to make a post), I request with this thread that the staff member in question either explain the reasons for my repeated bans here or via PM.

The fact that mana unbanned me right away (saying that he "doesn't agree with the ban") proves my point that I was probably banned just because some staff member disliked my posts for whatever reason. Because of this, I wasn't able to participate in any i58 threads.

I'm only used this kind of behavior from tf2center staff and I'd rather not deal with it on this site.
I hope the situation will be resolved respectfully, but I will make a screenshot of this thread and in case it gets deleted and I get banned again, I will re-post it from an alt until I get told a reason not to, or enigma, being the owner, tells me he wants me to stop, in which case I guess I'll just have to leave the site. But to be honest, I have no idea why enigma, or any tf.tv staff would want this, so I hope the responsible staff will reply, because I'm genuinely curious.
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justice4the301stspartan

justice4the301stspartan
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#3
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give 301 admin

give 301 admin
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isn't enigma like the only other admin

isn't enigma like the only other admin
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RainofLightisn't enigma like the only other admin

No idea but I tried adding enigma several times both when it first happened and now, and he didn't react. If he wanted me off his website, I think he'd just tell me. It's his site after all. Banning someone from your website just to have them unbanned by another admin seems senseless to me.

[quote=RainofLight]isn't enigma like the only other admin[/quote]

No idea but I tried adding enigma several times both when it first happened and now, and he didn't react. If he wanted me off his website, I think he'd just tell me. It's his site after all. Banning someone from your website just to have them unbanned by another admin seems senseless to me.
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The staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lol

The staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lol
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free june

free june
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EvrewsThe staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lol

Fully justified ban. You should probably be banned from here for questioning it

[quote=Evrews]The staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lol[/quote]
Fully justified ban. You should probably be banned from here for questioning it
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GentlemanJonEvrewsThe staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lolFully justified ban. You should probably be banned from here for questioning it

There is a reason people don't take banter seriously
e: did I get trolled

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=Evrews]The staff here are far from perfect. David perma-banned me years ago on TFTV stream for saying "na scouts>eu scouts". Still banned lol[/quote]
Fully justified ban. You should probably be banned from here for questioning it[/quote]
There is a reason people don't take banter seriously
e: did I get trolled
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Unwilling to disclose the details is not remotely understandable. That's nearly as draconian as it gets, and not the sort of stuff that fosters a good community.

This isn't like cheating where they won't tell you so you can end up gaming the system. You shouldn't have to chase people down to find out why you are banned wtf'ing f.

Unwilling to disclose the details is not remotely understandable. That's nearly as draconian as it gets, and not the sort of stuff that fosters a good community.

This isn't like cheating where they won't tell you so you can end up gaming the system. You shouldn't have to chase people down to find out why you are banned wtf'ing f.
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#11
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Stream chat is unfair! Davidthewin is in there!

Stream chat is unfair! Davidthewin is in there!
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free stoperr

free stoperr
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DoomLordUnwilling to disclose the details is not remotely understandable. That's nearly as draconian as it gets, and not the sort of stuff that fosters a good community.

This isn't like cheating where they won't tell you so you can end up gaming the system. You shouldn't have to chase people down to find out why you are banned wtf'ing f.

Personally I agree with this actually, but I can understand him in that he just didn't want to talk to me about what other tf.tv admins are doing and why while busy at i58. It's not really mana's responsibility to sort this out anyways, but his who banned me. And if someone had to police tf.tv staff I guess it would be enigma, not mana.

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also I didn't want mana to be upset after he just unbanned me sshh
[quote=DoomLord]Unwilling to disclose the details is not remotely understandable. That's nearly as draconian as it gets, and not the sort of stuff that fosters a good community.

This isn't like cheating where they won't tell you so you can end up gaming the system. You shouldn't have to chase people down to find out why you are banned wtf'ing f.[/quote]

Personally I agree with this actually, but I can understand him in that he just didn't want to talk to me about what other tf.tv admins are doing and why while busy at i58. It's not really mana's responsibility to sort this out anyways, but his who banned me. And if someone had to police tf.tv staff I guess it would be enigma, not mana.

[spoiler]also I didn't want mana to be upset after he just unbanned me sshh[/spoiler]
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unban dragonwarrior12

unban dragonwarrior12
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spammyhThere is a reason people don't take banter seriously
e: did I get trolled

Not all sarcasm is followed by a kappa

[quote=spammyh]There is a reason people don't take banter seriously
e: did I get trolled[/quote]
Not all sarcasm is followed by a kappa
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my main account is still banned from the thread about June
i added enigma on steam in 2015 and he went an entire year without accepting or ignoring it, so i removed him and gave up :)

my main account is still banned from the thread about June
i added enigma on steam in 2015 and he went an entire year without accepting or ignoring it, so i removed him and gave up :)
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Enigma doesn't add people just pm him on tftv as he responds to that more

Enigma doesn't add people just pm him on tftv as he responds to that more
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#18
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unban THEBILLDOZER2016

unban THEBILLDOZER2016
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free my boy woogie

free my boy woogie
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NurseyStream chat is unfair! Davidthewin is in there!

Spamming is a confession! Feeding his oppression!

[quote=Nursey]Stream chat is unfair! Davidthewin is in there![/quote]
Spamming is a confession! Feeding his oppression!
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unban everyone lets not fight :)

unban everyone lets not fight :)
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free elliot

free elliot
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bill has been banned for almost a year please let him return

bill has been banned for almost a year please let him return
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On this note, I'd also like to request an actual ban appeal subforum, because really, you shouldn't be forced to scour steam for help when you're suddenly banned for no reason. And you have to, because the IRC is dead, and there isn't even a member list of this site, so most users wouldn't even know who to PM.

On this note, I'd also like to request an actual ban appeal subforum, because really, you shouldn't be forced to scour steam for help when you're suddenly banned for no reason. And you have to, because the IRC is dead, and there isn't even a member list of this site, so most users wouldn't even know who to PM.
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