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Terrorist attack (IS claims attack) in Nice, France
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#31
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BlitheDishSoapBlitheFuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.I get that your blinded by rage but that was just straight up ignorant and fucked up to type out... cmon man.
I understand that my words were not very well thought out. I do not hold anger toward the entire nation of Islam, just the extremists that believe killing all people that don't believe in Islamic ideals is the right thing to do.

It's ok your not at fault bc im the retard who forgot that Islamic State = ISIS...
FailFish

[quote=Blithe][quote=DishSoap][quote=Blithe]Fuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.[/quote]
I get that your blinded by rage but that was just straight up ignorant and fucked up to type out... cmon man.[/quote]

I understand that my words were not very well thought out. I do not hold anger toward the entire nation of Islam, just the extremists that believe killing all people that don't believe in Islamic ideals is the right thing to do.[/quote]
It's ok your not at fault bc im the retard who forgot that Islamic State = ISIS...
FailFish
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#32
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Now we watch as the politicians try and use this event to further their support, and saying "this wouldn't have happened if..."

Now we watch as the politicians try and use this event to further their support, and saying "this wouldn't have happened if..."
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#33
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cirlothe thing i still not get is WHY these european terrorist attacks are almost just in France...
Is that because there is a large minority of people coming from ex colonies? If it's because of that why it doesn't happen in UK too?

Striking one country multiple times rather than striking multiple countries increases the chances of people questionning their governement's choices, which can create a civil war and paranoia.

Now why France and not some other country I don't really know.

[quote=cirlo]the thing i still not get is WHY these european terrorist attacks are almost just in France...
Is that because there is a large minority of people coming from ex colonies? If it's because of that why it doesn't happen in UK too?[/quote]


Striking one country multiple times rather than striking multiple countries increases the chances of people questionning their governement's choices, which can create a civil war and paranoia.

Now why France and not some other country I don't really know.
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#34
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France is historically symbolic for the "western world" and it's big and central so I you can get in from more ways than say italy.
That said, with everything being so centralized in france I hope they'll be able to shut these down more in the future with even more security. Sucks for everyone else but better than getting attacked

France is historically symbolic for the "western world" and it's big and central so I you can get in from more ways than say italy.
That said, with everything being so centralized in france I hope they'll be able to shut these down more in the future with even more security. Sucks for everyone else but better than getting attacked
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#35
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http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png

http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png
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#36
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Spycycirlothe thing i still not get is WHY these european terrorist attacks are almost just in France...
Is that because there is a large minority of people coming from ex colonies? If it's because of that why it doesn't happen in UK too?

Striking one country multiple times rather than striking multiple countries increases the chances of people questionning their governement's choices, which can create a civil war and paranoia.

Now why France and not some other country I don't really know.

I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.

[quote=Spycy][quote=cirlo]the thing i still not get is WHY these european terrorist attacks are almost just in France...
Is that because there is a large minority of people coming from ex colonies? If it's because of that why it doesn't happen in UK too?[/quote]


Striking one country multiple times rather than striking multiple countries increases the chances of people questionning their governement's choices, which can create a civil war and paranoia.

Now why France and not some other country I don't really know.[/quote]

I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.
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#37
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fuck 2016

fuck 2016
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#38
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RussianGuyovichhttp://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png

How is this funny?

[quote=RussianGuyovich]http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png[/quote]
How is this funny?
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#39
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I think one reason that France is being targeted is the fact they have banned the Burqa.

Nothing but love and best wishes for the people of France, alls to hoping this finally ends.

I think one reason that France is being targeted is the fact they have banned the Burqa.

Nothing but love and best wishes for the people of France, alls to hoping this finally ends.
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#40
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the301stspartanRussianGuyovichhttp://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.pngHow is this funny?

Thats the thing its not funny, but it happens

[quote=the301stspartan][quote=RussianGuyovich]http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png[/quote]
How is this funny?[/quote]

Thats the thing its not funny, but it happens
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#41
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nykNow we watch as the politicians try and use this event to further their support, and saying "this wouldn't have happened if..."

Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of a political agenda, so of course there will be political responses when yet another massacre by these backwards fucks happens? Especialy when nothing happens yet again apart from singing Imagine or drawing hearts in chalk as if it will change anything

the301stspartanRussianGuyovichhttp://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.pngHow is this funny?

Its not because its the sad reality

[quote=nyk]Now we watch as the politicians try and use this event to further their support, and saying "this wouldn't have happened if..."[/quote] Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of a political agenda, so of course there will be political responses when yet another massacre by these backwards fucks happens? Especialy when nothing happens yet again apart from singing Imagine or drawing hearts in chalk as if it will change anything
[quote=the301stspartan][quote=RussianGuyovich]http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png[/quote]
How is this funny?[/quote]
Its not because its the sad reality
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#42
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BlitheFuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.

You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not

[quote=Blithe]Fuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.[/quote]
You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not
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#43
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Darkdwarf[
I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.

Are you saying we should just turn the other cheek then? This shit keeps on happening. We should show them what happens if you keep poking the lion

[quote=Darkdwarf][
I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.[/quote]

Are you saying we should just turn the other cheek then? This shit keeps on happening. We should show them what happens if you keep poking the lion
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#44
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_DR34M_BlitheFuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not

Ah yes the No True Scotsman fallacy

[quote=_DR34M_][quote=Blithe]Fuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.[/quote]
You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not[/quote]
Ah yes the No True Scotsman fallacy
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#45
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_DR34M_You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not

Only someone in complete denial can say that someone killing people while shouting ALLAHU AKBAR or calling the police beforehand to confirm their allegiance to ISIS and Islam are not muslims

[quote=_DR34M_]
You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not[/quote]

Only someone in complete denial can say that someone killing people while shouting ALLAHU AKBAR or calling the police beforehand to confirm their allegiance to ISIS and Islam are not muslims
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#46
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lets twist a tragedy to fit my political agenda
thats the shit i do like

lets twist a tragedy to fit my political agenda
thats the shit i do like
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#47
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_DR34M_BlitheFuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not

You don't know what ISIS means

DamnEasythe301stspartanRussianGuyovichhttp://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.pngHow is this funny?
Thats the thing its not funny, but it happens

And this is dumb bullshit. The facebook buttons and media coverage are to pay respect to the victims and show solidarity to everyone affected. Beyond that, there's also billions spent on security, tens of thousands of officers working day and night and putting their lives at risk to secure festivals and parades, big OT and joint operations of intelligence agencies worldwide, countless security checks at airports and train stations, a country under martial law for months, incessant political debates on how to best deal with the threat on national and international levels and a bloody war in syria costing thousands of lives.

If you don't agree with the way the situation is handled politically, go vote or post in your favorite political forums, but posting funny images saying "lol it happened again but u will just whine and do nothing again so it will just happen again wait for it" is dumb retarded disrespectful garbage posting and shows huge ignorance and disregard for everyone involved

[quote=_DR34M_][quote=Blithe]Fuck the islamic state. Their ideals are so flawed that they kill completely innocent people without remorse. If that is what you believe in, if you believe in killing innocent people in the name of your "faith", then fuck you.[/quote]
You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not[/quote]

You don't know what ISIS means

[quote=DamnEasy][quote=the301stspartan][quote=RussianGuyovich]http://i.imgur.com/W2wUHYr.png[/quote]
How is this funny?[/quote]

Thats the thing its not funny, but it happens[/quote]
And this is dumb bullshit. The facebook buttons and media coverage are to pay respect to the victims and show solidarity to everyone affected. Beyond that, there's also billions spent on security, tens of thousands of officers working day and night and putting their lives at risk to secure festivals and parades, big OT and joint operations of intelligence agencies worldwide, countless security checks at airports and train stations, a country under martial law for months, incessant political debates on how to best deal with the threat on national and international levels and a bloody war in syria costing thousands of lives.

If you don't agree with the way the situation is handled politically, go vote or post in your favorite political forums, but posting funny images saying "lol it happened again but u will just whine and do nothing again so it will just happen again wait for it" is dumb retarded disrespectful garbage posting and shows huge ignorance and disregard for everyone involved
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ScissorsDarkdwarf[
I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.

Are you saying we should just turn the other cheek then? This shit keeps on happening. We should show them what happens if you keep poking the lion

I'm not saying anything should or shouldn't be done. I'm just trying to explain why I believe they're targeting France. The thing is that they know any attack in retaliation most likely will hurt civilians more than them, thus bolstering their numbers. They want a war, and they're getting it.

[quote=Scissors][quote=Darkdwarf][
I think it's because France is the country in continental Europe most likely to strike back. IS live off of reactions to western interventions in the muslim world to fuel their campaign. France is already involved in military campaigns in Mali, for example, and is generally believed to be the most hawkish country in continental Europe. They're trying to provoke a french retaliation they can use in their propaganda.[/quote]

Are you saying we should just turn the other cheek then? This shit keeps on happening. We should show them what happens if you keep poking the lion[/quote]

I'm not saying anything should or shouldn't be done. I'm just trying to explain why I believe they're targeting France. The thing is that they know any attack in retaliation most likely will hurt civilians more than them, thus bolstering their numbers. They want a war, and they're getting it.
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#49
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Scissors_DR34M_You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not
Only someone in complete denial can say that someone killing people while shouting ALLAHU AKBAR or calling the police beforehand to confirm their allegiance to ISIS and Islam are not muslims

It's not quite worded correctly.
ISIS is as islamic as the Westboro Baptist Church is christian. They are Wahhabi which explicitly calls all other forms of Islam "heretical". Similar to how the WBC is anti catholic, but worse.
So yeah, if they hate you and tell you that you aren't actually a muslim, would you want to "admit" that it's the same religion and call them muslims?

Sure there's a bit of denial here, but this is actually how it is. ISIS doesn't consider anyone else a muslim and the other muslims don't consider ISIS to be muslims.

[quote=Scissors][quote=_DR34M_]
You have to know dude islam is not even fucking associated with ISIS and isis are outsiders and they claim to be muslims but theyr not[/quote]

Only someone in complete denial can say that someone killing people while shouting ALLAHU AKBAR or calling the police beforehand to confirm their allegiance to ISIS and Islam are not muslims[/quote]
It's not quite worded correctly.
ISIS is as islamic as the Westboro Baptist Church is christian. They are Wahhabi which explicitly calls all other forms of Islam "heretical". Similar to how the WBC is anti catholic, but worse.
So yeah, if they hate you and tell you that you aren't actually a muslim, would you want to "admit" that it's the same religion and call them muslims?

Sure there's a bit of denial here, but this is actually how it is. ISIS doesn't consider anyone else a muslim and the other muslims don't consider ISIS to be muslims.
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#50
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This is a tragedy and it needs to stop, I'm not trying to undermine it by saying 'not all Muslims' but it does bear repeating that Isis is not related to Islam at all.

This militant group is set out to pillage, destroy, and wreck peoples lives. Just a few weeks ago in the last day of the holy month of Ramadan in the heart of one of the most sacred cities Isis bombed the place, 4 officers were killed and 5 injured and the only reason it wasn't more is because the bomber hugged the officer as he exploded making it less catastrophic.
I'm not equating this to what happened in Paris recently at all (Paris is by far a bigger tragedy) but I'm just giving you a slight example of how Isis doesn't fucking care who they target as long as it fits their own twisted sick version of 'Islam'

if I were to equate them to someone i would say they are closer to Hitler. Hitler had his own version of Christianity, his own ideal of whats 'right' and whats 'wrong' and he ruined millions of peoples lives, does that mean his Christianity was fucking right? no because it wasn't Christianity, being a christian doesn't involve killing millions and torturing, and slaughtering, now does it.
just because a group that just wears the name of Islam and shouts Allah Akbar (i lol'd when scissors gave me the example that anyone who yells Allah Akbar and calls the police to tell them they r Muslim means that they are indubitably without a doubt Muslim) doesn't mean they are Muslim, they have their own idea of what Islam is and they are trying to force it on everybody but it doesn't mean its actually Islam , it kinda like saying oh every person Ive ever heard of that is named JIM was an asshole therefor every person named JIM is an asshole.

tell me this do you guys even know what jihad means outside of American media? The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in actuality, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.
when a true Muslim is in jihad they are not, cleaving their fellow humans head off and raping women and children. these are assholes that defile Islams meaning. also Islam does not at all promote the killing of ANYONE regardless of religion if they are Sunni, shia, christian, Jew. Calling them Muslim is an insult on anyone that IS Muslim

All the tragedies and killings that are happening are absolutely sickening, my heart goes out to all the families that have felt loss because of terror attack, but to effectively stop terrorism completely we have to stop looking at it through such a narrow lens. Terror attacks come from all misguided ideals of religion not just Islam (90% of all terror attacks in America were from non-Muslims and less than 1% of terror attacks in Europe were carried out by Muslims source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619) this 'attack on islam' is only going to sideline you from the actual terrorism and spread hate to fellow Muslims that only want to live in peace and not have to worry about the actions of idiotic misguided other people
I get this might get down-voted I just wanted to say my piece of the subject.

This is a tragedy and it needs to stop, I'm not trying to undermine it by saying 'not all Muslims' but it does bear repeating that Isis is not related to Islam at all.

This militant group is set out to pillage, destroy, and wreck peoples lives. Just a few weeks ago in the last day of the holy month of Ramadan in the heart of one of the most sacred cities Isis bombed the place, 4 officers were killed and 5 injured and the only reason it wasn't more is because the bomber hugged the officer as he exploded making it less catastrophic.
I'm not equating this to what happened in Paris recently at all (Paris is by far a bigger tragedy) but I'm just giving you a slight example of how Isis doesn't fucking care who they target as long as it fits their own twisted sick version of 'Islam'

if I were to equate them to someone i would say they are closer to Hitler. Hitler had his own version of Christianity, his own ideal of whats 'right' and whats 'wrong' and he ruined millions of peoples lives, does that mean his Christianity was fucking right? no because it wasn't Christianity, being a christian doesn't involve killing millions and torturing, and slaughtering, now does it.
just because a group that just wears the name of Islam and shouts Allah Akbar (i lol'd when scissors gave me the example that anyone who yells Allah Akbar and calls the police to tell them they r Muslim means that they are indubitably without a doubt Muslim) doesn't mean they are Muslim, they have their own idea of what Islam is and they are trying to force it on everybody but [i]it doesn't mean its actually Islam [/i], it kinda like saying oh every person Ive ever heard of that is named JIM was an asshole therefor every person named JIM is an asshole.

tell me this do you guys even know what jihad means outside of American media? The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in actuality, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.
when a true Muslim is in jihad they are not, cleaving their fellow humans head off and raping women and children. these are assholes that defile Islams meaning. also Islam does not at all promote the killing of ANYONE regardless of religion if they are Sunni, shia, christian, Jew. Calling them Muslim is an insult on anyone that IS Muslim

All the tragedies and killings that are happening are absolutely sickening, my heart goes out to all the families that have felt loss because of terror attack, but to effectively stop terrorism completely we have to stop looking at it through such a narrow lens. Terror attacks come from all misguided ideals of religion not just Islam (90% of all terror attacks in America were from non-Muslims and less than 1% of terror attacks in Europe were carried out by Muslims source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619) this 'attack on islam' is only going to sideline you from the actual terrorism and spread hate to fellow Muslims that only want to live in peace and not have to worry about the actions of idiotic misguided other people
I get this might get down-voted I just wanted to say my piece of the subject.
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#51
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There are serious issues of communication and interpretation within Islamic faith. It's pointless to attack the validity of their association with Islam without also understanding these issues. Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that many of these issues much be worked out from within Islam, which as it stands is far from becoming reality. Regardless though, whether they are real muslims or not is a pointless discussion, since with whatever answer we come to, glorifying or villifying a population of a billion because of it is wrong. You can't discuss muslims without discussing Islam.

There are serious issues of communication and interpretation within Islamic faith. It's pointless to attack the validity of their association with Islam without also understanding these issues. Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that many of these issues much be worked out from within Islam, which as it stands is far from becoming reality. Regardless though, whether they are real muslims or not is a pointless discussion, since with whatever answer we come to, glorifying or villifying a population of a billion because of it is wrong. You can't discuss muslims without discussing Islam.
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#52
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"La france doit apprendre a vivre avec le terrorisme " le midget with the 10 000 euro a mois barber

Not surprised it happened, and just waiting for the next, while people cry about piss and love and not all whatever.

it was to be expected, they been on high alert for the football cup, and just after that, on the quatorze juillet they strike. very #Nice.

"La france doit apprendre a vivre avec le terrorisme " le midget with the 10 000 euro a mois barber


Not surprised it happened, and just waiting for the next, while people cry about piss and love and not all whatever.

it was to be expected, they been on high alert for the football cup, and just after that, on the quatorze juillet they strike. very #Nice.
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#53
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Why do I come to tftv for tf2 posts but people end up posting their views on religion on a thread about a tragedy like if anybody actually came here for this\or cared about their views.

http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.141725109.4116/sticker,375x360.u2.png

Why do I come to tftv for tf2 posts but people end up posting their views on religion on a thread about a tragedy like if anybody actually came here for this\or cared about their views.


http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.141725109.4116/sticker,375x360.u2.png
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#54
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When you've got it into your head that it's ok to murder people en masse religion is just a convenient justification. Every faith and non-faith has proven that its adherents are capable of committing atrocities on a grand scale.

My assumption as to why France has been targeted more than say, Poland, is that France is a fairly open society where large public gatherings aren't particularly well secured and people from all over the world being present wont raise any particular notice. Another (more important) factor is that there is a large Arab/Maghreb minority in France where some segments of that minority have become disillusioned with French society in general (2005 riots for example - although tension can date back much further - particularly into the 1960's) and so it's relatively easier for malcontents to undergo the radicalization process and become convinced that they're completely powerless and that it is imperative that they avenge themselves.

Sad and senseless all the same :(

When you've got it into your head that it's ok to murder people en masse religion is just a convenient justification. Every faith and non-faith has proven that its adherents are capable of committing atrocities on a grand scale.

My assumption as to why France has been targeted more than say, Poland, is that France is a fairly open society where large public gatherings aren't particularly well secured and people from all over the world being present wont raise any particular notice. Another (more important) factor is that there is a large Arab/Maghreb minority in France where some segments of that minority have become disillusioned with French society in general (2005 riots for example - although tension can date back much further - particularly into the 1960's) and so it's relatively easier for malcontents to undergo the radicalization process and become convinced that they're completely powerless and that it is imperative that they avenge themselves.

Sad and senseless all the same :(
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#55
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KanecoVery very NSFW/NSFL Video showing the aftermath.
https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Such a coward act, makes my blood boil.

fuck, I had to stop after 4 seconds.... who the fuck does this shit:... IS are sick in the head

[quote=Kaneco]Very very NSFW/NSFL Video showing the aftermath.
https://twitter.com/Daradol1/status/753713558849019910?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Such a coward act, makes my blood boil.[/quote]

fuck, I had to stop after 4 seconds.... who the fuck does this shit:... IS are sick in the head
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#56
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_DR34M_This is a tragedy and it needs to stop, I'm not trying to undermine it by saying 'not all Muslims' but it does bear repeating that Isis is not related to Islam at all.

This militant group is set out to pillage, destroy, and wreck peoples lives. Just a few weeks ago in the last day of the holy month of Ramadan in the heart of one of the most sacred cities Isis bombed the place, 4 officers were killed and 5 injured and the only reason it wasn't more is because the bomber hugged the officer as he exploded making it less catastrophic.
I'm not equating this to what happened in Paris recently at all (Paris is by far a bigger tragedy) but I'm just giving you a slight example of how Isis doesn't fucking care who they target as long as it fits their own twisted sick version of 'Islam'

if I were to equate them to someone i would say they are closer to Hitler. Hitler had his own version of Christianity, his own ideal of whats 'right' and whats 'wrong' and he ruined millions of peoples lives, does that mean his Christianity was fucking right? no because it wasn't Christianity, being a christian doesn't involve killing millions and torturing, and slaughtering, now does it.
just because a group that just wears the name of Islam and shouts Allah Akbar (i lol'd when scissors gave me the example that anyone who yells Allah Akbar and calls the police to tell them they r Muslim means that they are indubitably without a doubt Muslim) doesn't mean they are Muslim, they have their own idea of what Islam is and they are trying to force it on everybody but it doesn't mean its actually Islam , it kinda like saying oh every person Ive ever heard of that is named JIM was an asshole therefor every person named JIM is an asshole.

tell me this do you guys even know what jihad means outside of American media? The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in actuality, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.
when a true Muslim is in jihad they are not, cleaving their fellow humans head off and raping women and children. these are assholes that defile Islams meaning. also Islam does not at all promote the killing of ANYONE regardless of religion if they are Sunni, shia, christian, Jew. Calling them Muslim is an insult on anyone that IS Muslim

All the tragedies and killings that are happening are absolutely sickening, my heart goes out to all the families that have felt loss because of terror attack, but to effectively stop terrorism completely we have to stop looking at it through such a narrow lens. Terror attacks come from all misguided ideals of religion not just Islam (90% of all terror attacks in America were from non-Muslims and less than 1% of terror attacks in Europe were carried out by Muslims source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619) this 'attack on islam' is only going to sideline you from the actual terrorism and spread hate to fellow Muslims that only want to live in peace and not have to worry about the actions of idiotic misguided other people
I get this might get down-voted I just wanted to say my piece of the subject.

do you think anyone is retarded enough like you to actually think that Omar "put a mag in every fag" only pretended to be muslim? The lenghts at which you are going, to defend your precious shitty deathcult religion invented by a murderous pedophile makes me think we should remove usefull idiots like you along with the real terorrists.
ISIS isn't like the westbore baptist church, they are like 16th century protestants with a visceral hatred towards all things catholic. and as far is i know westbore baptist church has 0 deaths on their account and is basically a scam to try to get people to attack them so they can sue. comparing that to a bunch of inbred goatfuckers rampaging Iraq and Syria gettuing their jihadi university degree in a very real caliphate.

[quote=_DR34M_]This is a tragedy and it needs to stop, I'm not trying to undermine it by saying 'not all Muslims' but it does bear repeating that Isis is not related to Islam at all.

This militant group is set out to pillage, destroy, and wreck peoples lives. Just a few weeks ago in the last day of the holy month of Ramadan in the heart of one of the most sacred cities Isis bombed the place, 4 officers were killed and 5 injured and the only reason it wasn't more is because the bomber hugged the officer as he exploded making it less catastrophic.
I'm not equating this to what happened in Paris recently at all (Paris is by far a bigger tragedy) but I'm just giving you a slight example of how Isis doesn't fucking care who they target as long as it fits their own twisted sick version of 'Islam'

if I were to equate them to someone i would say they are closer to Hitler. Hitler had his own version of Christianity, his own ideal of whats 'right' and whats 'wrong' and he ruined millions of peoples lives, does that mean his Christianity was fucking right? no because it wasn't Christianity, being a christian doesn't involve killing millions and torturing, and slaughtering, now does it.
just because a group that just wears the name of Islam and shouts Allah Akbar (i lol'd when scissors gave me the example that anyone who yells Allah Akbar and calls the police to tell them they r Muslim means that they are indubitably without a doubt Muslim) doesn't mean they are Muslim, they have their own idea of what Islam is and they are trying to force it on everybody but [i]it doesn't mean its actually Islam [/i], it kinda like saying oh every person Ive ever heard of that is named JIM was an asshole therefor every person named JIM is an asshole.

tell me this do you guys even know what jihad means outside of American media? The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in actuality, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.
when a true Muslim is in jihad they are not, cleaving their fellow humans head off and raping women and children. these are assholes that defile Islams meaning. also Islam does not at all promote the killing of ANYONE regardless of religion if they are Sunni, shia, christian, Jew. Calling them Muslim is an insult on anyone that IS Muslim

All the tragedies and killings that are happening are absolutely sickening, my heart goes out to all the families that have felt loss because of terror attack, but to effectively stop terrorism completely we have to stop looking at it through such a narrow lens. Terror attacks come from all misguided ideals of religion not just Islam (90% of all terror attacks in America were from non-Muslims and less than 1% of terror attacks in Europe were carried out by Muslims source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619) this 'attack on islam' is only going to sideline you from the actual terrorism and spread hate to fellow Muslims that only want to live in peace and not have to worry about the actions of idiotic misguided other people
I get this might get down-voted I just wanted to say my piece of the subject.[/quote]
do you think anyone is retarded enough like you to actually think that Omar "put a mag in every fag" only pretended to be muslim? The lenghts at which you are going, to defend your precious shitty deathcult religion invented by a murderous pedophile makes me think we should remove usefull idiots like you along with the real terorrists.
ISIS isn't like the westbore baptist church, they are like 16th century protestants with a visceral hatred towards all things catholic. and as far is i know westbore baptist church has 0 deaths on their account and is basically a scam to try to get people to attack them so they can sue. comparing that to a bunch of inbred goatfuckers rampaging Iraq and Syria gettuing their jihadi university degree in a very real caliphate.
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I don't understand how posts like these (literally suggesting to "remove" people who don't agree with sac's balanced and differentiated views) receive upfrags. Unsubbed.

I don't understand how posts like these (literally suggesting to "remove" people who don't agree with sac's balanced and differentiated views) receive upfrags. Unsubbed.
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yeah like wtf sac u have a lot of facts in u i dont ser why you gotta dilute ur posts with shit like that

yeah like wtf sac u have a lot of facts in u i dont ser why you gotta dilute ur posts with shit like that
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the301stspartanI don't understand how posts like these (literally suggesting to "remove" people who don't agree with sac's balanced and differentiated views) receive upfrags. Unsubbed.

i've had it with supporting the relatives of terrrorists, who knew what was going on with the radicalised family/neighbours, but still refuse to let the local authorities know.
I've had it with muslims, being in total denial on the motives of their cousins, but will comment with "muh KKK and crusades" on why we deserve it.
I've had it with usefull idiots who marginalise the Caliphate, comparing it to a scam that hasn't claimed any lives.

[quote=the301stspartan]I don't understand how posts like these (literally suggesting to "remove" people who don't agree with sac's balanced and differentiated views) receive upfrags. Unsubbed.[/quote]
i've had it with supporting the relatives of terrrorists, who knew what was going on with the radicalised family/neighbours, but still refuse to let the local authorities know.
I've had it with muslims, being in total denial on the motives of their cousins, but will comment with "muh KKK and crusades" on why we deserve it.
I've had it with usefull idiots who marginalise the Caliphate, comparing it to a scam that hasn't claimed any lives.
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sacdo you think anyone is retarded enough like you to actually think that Omar "put a mag in every fag" only pretended to be muslim? The lenghts at which you are going, to defend your precious shitty deathcult religion invented by a murderous pedophile makes me think we should remove usefull idiots like you along with the real terorrists.
ISIS isn't like the westbore baptist church, they are like 16th century protestants with a visceral hatred towards all things catholic. and as far is i know westbore baptist church has 0 deaths on their account and is basically a scam to try to get people to attack them so they can sue. comparing that to a bunch of inbred goatfuckers rampaging Iraq and Syria gettuing their jihadi university degree in a very real caliphate.

can you quote me on where I even mentioned west bro baptist church?

[quote=sac]
do you think anyone is retarded enough like you to actually think that Omar "put a mag in every fag" only pretended to be muslim? The lenghts at which you are going, to defend your precious shitty deathcult religion invented by a murderous pedophile makes me think we should remove usefull idiots like you along with the real terorrists.
ISIS isn't like the westbore baptist church, they are like 16th century protestants with a visceral hatred towards all things catholic. and as far is i know westbore baptist church has 0 deaths on their account and is basically a scam to try to get people to attack them so they can sue. comparing that to a bunch of inbred goatfuckers rampaging Iraq and Syria gettuing their jihadi university degree in a very real caliphate.[/quote]

can you quote me on where I even mentioned west bro baptist church?
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