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Casual and matchmaking
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#1
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do you guys think valve will ever remove the restrictions on matchmaking, such as viewmodels and graphical commands? Also, casual mode is just a stupid concept. no one was asking for it, what is the point

do you guys think valve will ever remove the restrictions on matchmaking, such as viewmodels and graphical commands? Also, casual mode is just a stupid concept. no one was asking for it, what is the point
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#2
36 Frags +

if they got rid of the graphical restrictions and shit, a lot more players would play mm / casual

if they got rid of the graphical restrictions and shit, a lot more players would play mm / casual
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#3
16 Frags +

I have no idea why valve even thought this was a good idea to bug down their players with dumb restrictions and enforced settings, this won't even out anyone. Plus there is no real "advantage" for people who "customize" their game since it's open for anyone to do it, if they find certain elements unappealing or useless.

I have no idea why valve even thought this was a good idea to bug down their players with dumb restrictions and enforced settings, this won't even out anyone. Plus there is no real "advantage" for people who "customize" their game since it's open for anyone to do it, if they find certain elements unappealing or useless.
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#4
4 Frags +

I would definitely play mm more if i could have a smaller viewmodel because without min mode which i dont like much the viewmodels take up like a fourth of your screen and also my frame rate doesn't agree with dx9 much and i just don't like how it looks too

edit: i think that if they are going to use dx9 for everyone they need to continue to optimize the game like they are now but still have dx8 available until then, they also need to give us some viewmodel editing ability because it is allowed in csgo somewhat, and so is net_graph

I would definitely play mm more if i could have a smaller viewmodel because without min mode which i dont like much the viewmodels take up like a fourth of your screen and also my frame rate doesn't agree with dx9 much and i just don't like how it looks too

edit: i think that if they are going to use dx9 for everyone they need to continue to optimize the game like they are now but still have dx8 available until then, they also need to give us some viewmodel editing ability because it is allowed in csgo somewhat, and so is net_graph
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#5
-5 Frags +

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#6
12 Frags +

I just want to play a casual valve pub once in a while without some retarded restrictions or waiting times.

I'm glad they added matchmaking and all but everything I liked about the old pubs is pretty much gone now.

Sitting in a queue to play a 12v12 placebo comp game with pubbers on like koth_viaduct with 60 fps is a fucking garbage experience all around.

I just want to play a casual valve pub once in a while without some retarded restrictions or waiting times.

I'm glad they added matchmaking and all but everything I liked about the old pubs is pretty much gone now.

Sitting in a queue to play a 12v12 placebo comp game with pubbers on like koth_viaduct with 60 fps is a fucking garbage experience all around.
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#7
2 Frags +

No they wont

No they wont
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#8
9 Frags +

If I could have my viewmodel and fps configs in matchmaking I would play it. As it is right now it's just unplayable. I don't think the tf2 team actually realises how hard it is to play with viewmodels if you're used to playing without. I do like the casual mode though. It gives me a reason to try in pubs :)

If I could have my viewmodel and fps configs in matchmaking I would play it. As it is right now it's just unplayable. I don't think the tf2 team actually realises how hard it is to play with viewmodels if you're used to playing without. I do like the casual mode though. It gives me a reason to try in pubs :)
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#9
refresh.tf
2 Frags +

Casual would be smooth if they fixed the amount of time it took to find a game. I would rather wait 2 minutes to find a decent pub than to wait 0 minutes to find a shitty pub.

Casual would be smooth if they fixed the amount of time it took to find a game. I would rather wait 2 minutes to find a decent pub than to wait 0 minutes to find a shitty pub.
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#10
-5 Frags +

they're doing it because of twitch streamers and super mlg competitive esports

it's a huge mistake

they're doing it because of twitch streamers and super mlg competitive esports

it's a huge mistake
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#11
28 Frags +

valve please allow us to customize our viewmodels and stuff
and for streams and matches, dont worry the cool camera dudes will use amazing graphics
thank you
you have always allowed us to customize stuff since 2007
why not now
why

valve please allow us to customize our viewmodels and stuff
and for streams and matches, dont worry the cool camera dudes will use amazing graphics
thank you
you have always allowed us to customize stuff since 2007
why not now
why
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#12
11 Frags +

1) casual is good cos differentiate valve pubs from community pubs and put in contact pub players with comp players
2) casual doens't force some graphical configs

1) casual is good cos differentiate valve pubs from community pubs and put in contact pub players with comp players
2) casual doens't force some graphical configs
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#13
-2 Frags +

This whole casual matchmaking thing is retarded and I don't know how Valve interpreted the general opinion of the wider PC gaming community on server browsers, being "Games that release without server browsers in 2016 are the antichrist and shall be executed as such" (see: Doom 2016 multiplayer, Star Wars Battlefront 2015), as "Retroactively remove server browsers from games with successful server browsers". Like what how did you even think this was a good idea. Also having to queue up to play a pub and having to wait after playing one game is stupid. I'll dearly miss jumping into a vanilla Valve pub on process or something and just DMing for 45 minutes.

Matchmaking is pretty dumb with all the restrictions. They didn't optimize the game enough to play at competitive framerates with all the locked cvars and didn't balance most of the problem weapons (Danger Shield etc). Would've been nice to see the changes of product implemented into regular viaduct because in my experience from the beta, KOTH was pretty fun. But yeah, clamping down on customisation seems pretty dumb considering the average pubber who's been playing for a year probably knows about custom HUDs and even a pony server regular knows about reskins and stuff. Valve don't seem to trust their audience in the slightest but even pubbers seem to understand the basics of mods. Why not just add all the common cvars to the advanced options menu? Pubbers get new commands to optimise performance without configs, comp players get to play the game with max viability and framerate.

TL;DR: Casual matchmaking is counter-intuitive and awful in Oceania where there are like 5 decent community servers and the rest have ads and stupid plugins. Matchmaking has a way to go but with a change of mindset from Valve it could be really cool. They should look at competitive Quake and other arena shooters too see how they should lock the game down, rather than CS:GO.

This whole casual matchmaking thing is retarded and I don't know how Valve interpreted the general opinion of the wider PC gaming community on server browsers, being "Games that release without server browsers in 2016 are the antichrist and shall be executed as such" (see: Doom 2016 multiplayer, Star Wars Battlefront 2015), as "Retroactively remove server browsers from games with successful server browsers". Like what how did you even think this was a good idea. Also having to queue up to play a pub and having to wait after playing one game is stupid. I'll dearly miss jumping into a vanilla Valve pub on process or something and just DMing for 45 minutes.

Matchmaking is pretty dumb with all the restrictions. They didn't optimize the game enough to play at competitive framerates with all the locked cvars and didn't balance most of the problem weapons (Danger Shield etc). Would've been nice to see the changes of product implemented into regular viaduct because in my experience from the beta, KOTH was pretty fun. But yeah, clamping down on customisation seems pretty dumb considering the average pubber who's been playing for a year probably knows about custom HUDs and even a pony server regular knows about reskins and stuff. Valve don't seem to trust their audience in the slightest but even pubbers seem to understand the basics of mods. Why not just add all the common cvars to the advanced options menu? Pubbers get new commands to optimise performance without configs, comp players get to play the game with max viability and framerate.

TL;DR: Casual matchmaking is counter-intuitive and awful in Oceania where there are like 5 decent community servers and the rest have ads and stupid plugins. Matchmaking has a way to go but with a change of mindset from Valve it could be really cool. They should look at competitive Quake and other arena shooters too see how they should lock the game down, rather than CS:GO.
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#14
11 Frags +

im really enjoying casual matchmaking its so fucking fun
people communicate and coordinate sentry saps its incredible
only problem is because i live in israel it puts me on dubai servers where i get 250 ping xd

im really enjoying casual matchmaking its so fucking fun
people communicate and coordinate sentry saps its incredible
only problem is because i live in israel it puts me on dubai servers where i get 250 ping xd
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#15
21 Frags +

Unrelated: You guys should append " | teamfortress.tv" to your name. I got like 5 people to visit the site while playing competitive matches

Unrelated: You guys should append " | teamfortress.tv" to your name. I got like 5 people to visit the site while playing competitive matches
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#16
16 Frags +

FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....

FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....
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#17
16 Frags +

75 max viewmodel fov was fine
54 is just autistic

75 max viewmodel fov was fine
54 is just autistic
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#18
-12 Frags +
KiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....

cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout

[quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout
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#19
-8 Frags +
sendKiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout

why is this downvoted

[quote=send][quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout[/quote]
why is this downvoted
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#20
huds.tf
6 Frags +
sendsendKiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout
why is this downvoted

Because if you're in the air and you look down to hit shots all you can see is your feet

[quote=send][quote=send][quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout[/quote]
why is this downvoted[/quote]
Because if you're in the air and you look down to hit shots all you can see is your feet
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#21
0 Frags +
KiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....

tf_use_min_viewmodels 1

[quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
tf_use_min_viewmodels 1
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#22
-1 Frags +
omnisendsendKiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout
why is this downvoted
Because if you're in the air and you look down to hit shots all you can see is your feet

better than having massive viewmodels

[quote=omni][quote=send][quote=send][quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
try that when you play, it really helps for demo and scout[/quote]
why is this downvoted[/quote]
Because if you're in the air and you look down to hit shots all you can see is your feet[/quote]
better than having massive viewmodels
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#23
5 Frags +
nopeKiNGFOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....tf_use_min_viewmodels 1

is it just me that feels like its harder to aim with this? confuses me a lot when projectiles come out of the wrong place on the screen

[quote=nope][quote=KiNG]FOV 54 is retarded. The fuckin stickybomb launcher covers the entire sceen when reloading. I'm pretty sure FOV 72 was already hated by the large majority of players playing in the beta, so they just HAD to lower it more to 54....[/quote]
tf_use_min_viewmodels 1[/quote]
is it just me that feels like its harder to aim with this? confuses me a lot when projectiles come out of the wrong place on the screen
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#24
2 Frags +

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