leakyWhy would people prefer the smaller newbie mixes with more experienced people. Isn't the point of newbiemix to play with and teach new people? if your going to complain about the "newbies" why play newbiemixes at all?
the point of a group like this is to help new players get experience playing competitive tf2 and teach them how the game works. it's tough to do that with ten out of twelve players in the pug being new to the game. a lot of the time a team in a mix plays nothing like a functional team, so it doesn't really help new players get a feel for how the game flows or how to play as a team
i would think people would like to play in these pugs because they would get more individual attention. a coach in a newbie mix playing a combo class can't always give advice to the flank because they're often in different areas of the map. if you have experienced players with the combo and the flank, then everyone can get coached. these pugs might have smart players who wouldn't necessarily coach in newbie mix, and assuming i don't invite dumb idiots like trisk to play you'll probably be less likely to get a bad coach than you would in newbie mix. the pugs will probably start faster too since i only have to organize one pug rather than a thousand
it might sound like i'm being overly critical of newbie mix, but i actually think vick and whoever else runs it now does a pretty good job given how huge the group got. the way they run it is probably the only effective way to deal with that many players. my group is more along the lines of the original idea of newbie mix, which is to run pugs that have an even mix of new and experienced players. i'd rather offer something a little bit different that some people might benefit from and enjoy a little more. besides, i'm usually not around on the nights newbie mix happens anyways
[quote=leaky]Why would people prefer the smaller newbie mixes with more experienced people. Isn't the point of newbiemix to play with and teach new people? if your going to complain about the "newbies" why play newbiemixes at all?[/quote]
the point of a group like this is to help new players get experience playing competitive tf2 and teach them how the game works. it's tough to do that with ten out of twelve players in the pug being new to the game. a lot of the time a team in a mix plays nothing like a functional team, so it doesn't really help new players get a feel for how the game flows or how to play as a team
i would think people would like to play in these pugs because they would get more individual attention. a coach in a newbie mix playing a combo class can't always give advice to the flank because they're often in different areas of the map. if you have experienced players with the combo and the flank, then everyone can get coached. these pugs might have smart players who wouldn't necessarily coach in newbie mix, and assuming i don't invite dumb idiots like trisk to play you'll probably be less likely to get a bad coach than you would in newbie mix. the pugs will probably start faster too since i only have to organize one pug rather than a thousand
it might sound like i'm being overly critical of newbie mix, but i actually think vick and whoever else runs it now does a pretty good job given how huge the group got. the way they run it is probably the only effective way to deal with that many players. my group is more along the lines of the original idea of newbie mix, which is to run pugs that have an even mix of new and experienced players. i'd rather offer something a little bit different that some people might benefit from and enjoy a little more. besides, i'm usually not around on the nights newbie mix happens anyways