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DreamHack Winter 2015 TF2 Invitational powered by Marketplace.tf & esportunited
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#121
2 Frags +

Gpit! :D

Gpit! :D
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#122
8 Frags +

I will be attending DHW to take photos, is there a swed around with a nikon lens? Looking for a 24-70mm 2.8 lens :3

I will be attending DHW to take photos, is there a swed around with a nikon lens? Looking for a 24-70mm 2.8 lens :3
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#123
8 Frags +
Mankyappereantly gpit will be played

i almost regretted my decision to not attend

thanks!

[quote=Manky]appereantly gpit will be played[/quote]

i almost regretted my decision to not attend

thanks!
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#124
28 Frags +
VaskieAre there any specific reasons why we Gravel Pit (even if a new version) are going to be played (play-tested really) on such a big event ? Doesn't make much sense in my head.

One of the admins of the tournament has a conflict of interest and wants to put his own version of Gravelpit in. In this version of Gravelpit, he haphazardly tweaks the timings in an attempt to fix the issues of the map. These fixes are based on an incorrect conclusion from the gameplay of an entirely different era, with a completely different whitelist. So in the end these supposed fixes will fall short because it didn't solve any of the underlying problems of the map, just swept them under the rug to postpone the map's inevitable rejection by the community.

So in an attempt to stifle the voice of the players and further postpone the inevitable death of this iteration of Gravelpit, this tournament admin will apparently shoehorn his untested beta version of the map in the tournament, and force the teams to playtest it in a LAN environment where thousand of dollars are at play. All this is done under the pretense that the map will be amazing to spectate because of offclasses, but given the previously mentioned conflict of interest, it is questionable at best whether this is his genuine motive.

[quote=Vaskie]Are there any specific reasons why we Gravel Pit (even if a new version) are going to be played (play-tested really) on such a big event ? Doesn't make much sense in my head.[/quote]

One of the admins of the tournament has a conflict of interest and wants to put his own version of Gravelpit in. In this version of Gravelpit, he haphazardly tweaks the timings in an attempt to fix the issues of the map. These fixes are based on an incorrect conclusion from the gameplay of an entirely different era, with a completely different whitelist. So in the end these supposed fixes will fall short because it didn't solve any of the underlying problems of the map, just swept them under the rug to postpone the map's inevitable rejection by the community.

So in an attempt to stifle the voice of the players and further postpone the inevitable death of this iteration of Gravelpit, this tournament admin will apparently shoehorn his untested beta version of the map in the tournament, and force the teams to playtest it in a LAN environment where thousand of dollars are at play. All this is done under the pretense that the map will be amazing to spectate because of offclasses, but given the previously mentioned conflict of interest, it is questionable at best whether this is his genuine motive.
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#125
3 Frags +

realtalk.tf

realtalk.tf
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#126
11 Frags +

lets play obscure guys, i'll slightly modify the cap times and it'll be dreamhack ready!

lets play obscure guys, i'll slightly modify the cap times and it'll be dreamhack ready!
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#127
11 Frags +
Hallowlets play obscure guys, i'll slightly modify the cap times and it'll be dreamhack ready!

Not before you present an ultimatum to ETF2L to either include the map in the next season's map pool or it will be played at Dreamhack. (Not even joking, this actually happened)

[quote=Hallow]lets play obscure guys, i'll slightly modify the cap times and it'll be dreamhack ready![/quote]

Not before you present an ultimatum to ETF2L to either include the map in the next season's map pool or it will be played at Dreamhack. (Not even joking, this actually happened)
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#128
15 Frags +

rofl are you saying sideshow is holding permzillas dh experience hostage to manipulate etf2l????

rofl are you saying sideshow is holding permzillas dh experience hostage to manipulate etf2l????
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#129
-2 Frags +

it would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshit

it would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshit
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#130
7 Frags +

I'm not sure if I get it, was it sideshow's idea to force gravelpit into either etf2l or dreamhack?

Confused as fuck

I'm not sure if I get it, was it sideshow's idea to force gravelpit into either etf2l or dreamhack?

Confused as fuck
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#131
9 Frags +
Hallowrofl are you saying sideshow is holding permzillas dh experience hostage to manipulate etf2l????

Not going to call out anyone by name, the ones who are responsible will know. Let's just restore the equilibrium of the map pool by not trying to bypass the entire process of getting a new map into the rotation, and leave Gravelpit out of the map pool, for now.

[quote=Hallow]rofl are you saying sideshow is holding permzillas dh experience hostage to manipulate etf2l????[/quote]

Not going to call out anyone by name, the ones who are responsible will know. Let's just restore the equilibrium of the map pool by not trying to bypass the entire process of getting a new map into the rotation, and leave Gravelpit out of the map pool, for now.
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#132
18 Frags +
MGEMikeit would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshit

God forbid you attend a tournament with expenses covered by the community that benefits the game that you've played for 8+ years and that you will most likely make a profit from.

[quote=MGEMike]it would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshit[/quote]
God forbid you attend a tournament with expenses covered by the community that benefits the game that you've played for 8+ years and that you will most likely make a profit from.
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#133
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kosMGEMikeit would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshitGod forbid you attend a tournament with expenses covered by the community that benefits the game that you've played for 8+ years and that you will most likely make a profit from.

we've had to change our roster several times (we'll announce soon enough the changes to our lineup for DHW other than medic) due to several different issues to do with how viable it is for a teammate to get there etc, which includes changing travelling plans accordingly. when we realised how much it would cost us we didn't want to do a fundraiser but we realised it could jeopardise the LAN and the accommodation sideshow booked (and our fundraiser is covering 1/3 of our total expenses fyi, of this money around 80% was provided by masternoob in good faith/a sponsorship deal)

[quote=kos][quote=MGEMike]it would've been easier for us not to attend DH but we decided to go to not fuck over sideshow and the rest of the people going since no other team could be drafted to attend and now he goes and does this bullshit[/quote]
God forbid you attend a tournament with expenses covered by the community that benefits the game that you've played for 8+ years and that you will most likely make a profit from.[/quote]

we've had to change our roster several times (we'll announce soon enough the changes to our lineup for DHW other than medic) due to several different issues to do with how viable it is for a teammate to get there etc, which includes changing travelling plans accordingly. when we realised how much it would cost us we didn't want to do a fundraiser but we realised it could jeopardise the LAN and the accommodation sideshow booked (and our fundraiser is covering 1/3 of our total expenses fyi, of this money around 80% was provided by masternoob in good faith/a sponsorship deal)
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#134
6 Frags +
SheepylolBrimstonelol

Do you take Adderal to play better or something.

i'm not going to dreamhack but a few people who are going I would assume are taking some sort of medication that is prescribed for them. It clearly says "Alcohol and drugs in ANY form do not belong" doesn't this mean that anyone with any kind of drug legally prescribed or not won't be allowed in? This would mean me and many others wouldn't be allowed in right?

I remember at i55 they checked my bag for any outside alcohol when I went in so i'm guessing they will do the same at dreamhack.

No I'm certain you can bring in a legally prescribed drug in. In Sweden we have different words for pharmaceutical drugs and drugs like weed and cocaine. That's probably why that rule is poorly written.

I also don't think they will check your bag before you go in. I assume the reason why they checked it for alcohol at i55 was because they sell alcohol there and therefore you can't bring and drink your own. In Sweden you can lose your license to sell alcohol if a guest brought and drank their own alcohol in the bar lounge of your hotel, for example. I'd assume it's prohibited at insomnia aswell.

but I could be wrong im neither sober nor have I ever been to either dreamhack or i55

[quote=Sheepylol][quote=Brimstone]lol

Do you take Adderal to play better or something.[/quote]

i'm not going to dreamhack but a few people who are going I would assume are taking some sort of medication that is prescribed for them. It clearly says "Alcohol and drugs in ANY form do not belong" doesn't this mean that anyone with any kind of drug legally prescribed or not won't be allowed in? This would mean me and many others wouldn't be allowed in right?

I remember at i55 they checked my bag for any outside alcohol when I went in so i'm guessing they will do the same at dreamhack.[/quote]

No I'm certain you can bring in a legally prescribed drug in. In Sweden we have different words for pharmaceutical drugs and drugs like weed and cocaine. That's probably why that rule is poorly written.

I also don't think they will check your bag before you go in. I assume the reason why they checked it for alcohol at i55 was because they sell alcohol there and therefore you can't bring and drink your own. In Sweden you can lose your license to sell alcohol if a guest brought and drank their own alcohol in the bar lounge of your hotel, for example. I'd assume it's prohibited at insomnia aswell.




but I could be wrong im neither sober nor have I ever been to either dreamhack or i55
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#135
4 Frags +
huhyI will be attending DHW to take photos, is there a swed around with a nikon lens? Looking for a 24-70mm 2.8 lens :3

Bump!

[quote=huhy]I will be attending DHW to take photos, is there a swed around with a nikon lens? Looking for a 24-70mm 2.8 lens :3[/quote]

Bump!
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#136
6 Frags +

Sideshow: Gathering feedback from players at DHW. Which map would you prefer to see removed from the map pool? Sunshine, Snakewater or Granary_pro?
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Just removed or removed in favor of something else?
Sideshow: removed for gpit
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Then none
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Its an idiotic idea
Sideshow: no that's not the choice
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: How is that not the choice?
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: "Lets just push this map no one plays for a tournament"
Sideshow: ya I've already debated this with everyone and I'm doing it
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Aight
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Coolio
Sideshow: which map would you like to see removed
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Gpit =)
Sideshow: ty
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: np
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Just count it as an any

Considering I'm done after DW I don't really care but seriously? :D

Sideshow: Gathering feedback from players at DHW. Which map would you prefer to see removed from the map pool? Sunshine, Snakewater or Granary_pro?
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Just removed or removed in favor of something else?
Sideshow: removed for gpit
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Then none
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Its an idiotic idea
Sideshow: no that's not the choice
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: How is that not the choice?
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: "Lets just push this map no one plays for a tournament"
Sideshow: ya I've already debated this with everyone and I'm doing it
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Aight
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Coolio
Sideshow: which map would you like to see removed
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Gpit =)
Sideshow: ty
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: np
Publiclir.se aegyo_p: Just count it as an any


Considering I'm done after DW I don't really care but seriously? :D
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#137
2 Frags +

Reason is the only team that might potentially pick gravelpit because kaidus (and no one else on Reason) is in favour of it. All 3 other teams just won't pick it and when they play against Reason they will ban it before there is a chance to pick it. Why go through all this trouble to add a map that is 99% likely to never be played anyway?

Reason is the only team that might potentially pick gravelpit because kaidus (and no one else on Reason) is in favour of it. All 3 other teams just won't pick it and when they play against Reason they will ban it before there is a chance to pick it. Why go through all this trouble to add a map that is 99% likely to never be played anyway?
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#138
6 Frags +

Sideshow doing his best Permzilla impression? And succeeding?

RIP EU TF2

Sideshow doing his best Permzilla impression? And succeeding?

RIP EU TF2
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#139
13 Frags +

I remember when numlocked made ETF2L ban double sniper cause they couldn´t handle broders process last defense :) But that´s none of my business

I remember when numlocked made ETF2L ban double sniper cause they couldn´t handle broders process last defense :) But that´s none of my business
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#140
-1 Frags +

Did you speak to every one of my team? I think you'll find that's not so true!

Did you speak to every one of my team? I think you'll find that's not so true!
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#141
2 Frags +
kaidusDid you speak to every one of my team? I think you'll find that's not so true!

Who else? I've seen Stark, Perm, Kaptain and I think zebbosai say they're against the idea.

[quote=kaidus]Did you speak to every one of my team? I think you'll find that's not so true![/quote]

Who else? I've seen Stark, Perm, Kaptain and I think zebbosai say they're against the idea.
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#142
5 Frags +

Off-topic, but i gotta sell my backpack asap in order to attend DHW!

Add me on steammmmm

Off-topic, but i gotta sell my backpack asap in order to attend DHW!

Add me on steammmmm
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#143
-3 Frags +
sheepy_dogs_handYeah thats fair enough although considering how good LEGO are right now I don't think Saints will win anything. I guess if Saints are the only team who can attend then it makes sense. I think its OK then as long as Saints actually practice hard (which I think they will do) instead of just showing up without caring and taking the money.

Nice predictions mate.

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]Yeah thats fair enough although considering how good LEGO are right now I don't think Saints will win anything. I guess if Saints are the only team who can attend then it makes sense. I think its OK then as long as Saints actually practice hard (which I think they will do) instead of just showing up without caring and taking the money.[/quote]

Nice predictions mate.
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