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will i get better performance by upgrading my cpu?
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last 2 updates completely ruined my fps. so im searching for help. right now i have dual core 2.13 Ghz cpu which is okay i guess, but my friends tell me if i upgrade i will get better performance. can anyone confirm this or is there a catch?

last 2 updates completely ruined my fps. so im searching for help. right now i have dual core 2.13 Ghz cpu which is okay i guess, but my friends tell me if i upgrade i will get better performance. can anyone confirm this or is there a catch?
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yes

yes
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yup for sure you'll get better performance, but how large the performance gain also depends on your gpu too.
before upgrading you should really check on which processors will work together with the rest of your computer. people would be able to help you out more if you list each part of it.

yup for sure you'll get better performance, but how large the performance gain also depends on your gpu too.
before upgrading you should really check on which processors will work together with the rest of your computer. people would be able to help you out more if you list each part of it.
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jeffyes

Ok thanks

[quote=jeff]yes[/quote]
Ok thanks
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funhaver1998yup for sure you'll get better performance, but how large the performance gain also depends on your gpu too.
before upgrading you should really check on which processors will work together with the rest of your computer. people would be able to help you out more if you list each part of it.

Okay so cpu and gpu are important.

I have 4 gb of ram, is that enough?

[quote=funhaver1998]yup for sure you'll get better performance, but how large the performance gain also depends on your gpu too.
before upgrading you should really check on which processors will work together with the rest of your computer. people would be able to help you out more if you list each part of it.[/quote]
Okay so cpu and gpu are important.

I have 4 gb of ram, is that enough?
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i think 8 is recommended. the rate at which the ram runs and also what type of ram also affect things, but i'm not so knowledgeable on this.

i think 8 is recommended. the rate at which the ram runs and also what type of ram also affect things, but i'm not so knowledgeable on this.
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Assuming you don't have too many background programs 4GB of RAM should be fine. If you like having more programs open while playing games/doing other tasks, 8GB RAM is a good amount, or if you plan on using Video/Audio/Image editing software etc.

Assuming you don't have too many background programs 4GB of RAM should be fine. If you like having more programs open while playing games/doing other tasks, 8GB RAM is a good amount, or if you plan on using Video/Audio/Image editing software etc.
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yukiAssuming you don't have too many background programs 4GB of RAM should be fine. If you like having more programs open while playing games/doing other tasks, 8GB RAM is a good amount, or if you plan on using Video/Audio/Image editing software etc.

Ok thanks. I dont leave any programs open while playing so 4GB will be fine for me.

[quote=yuki]Assuming you don't have too many background programs 4GB of RAM should be fine. If you like having more programs open while playing games/doing other tasks, 8GB RAM is a good amount, or if you plan on using Video/Audio/Image editing software etc.[/quote]
Ok thanks. I dont leave any programs open while playing so 4GB will be fine for me.
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What is your current socket?

What is your current socket?
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So here are the things you need to know.

1. What CPU socket type do you have? Only certain CPUs will fit in certain sockets (square peg circle hole kinda deal - also it allows companies to plan for obsolescence to force you into buying a new MOBO every 4-5 years to get the latest CPUs).

2. What sort of PCI(e) slot do you have - you can put a 3.0 in a 2.0 slot, you just won't get all the newest "features" (shouldn't matter for TF2 since it won't use any of that new tech' anyways).

3. Are you on a lap top? Some lap top types are INCREDIBLY hard to get apart without breaking the thing irreparably unless you know what you're doing and have the proper tools. You may be better off to just get a whole new machine at that point (which is of course why they make laptops so hard to get apart in the first place - I've seen some models that simply couldn't be taken apart at all).

4. What RAM socket type you have - again square peg circle hole problem - although ram is cheap. Again if you're on a lap top you'll have to make sure you can actually access your ram ports without destroying the lap top - *most* companies put an easy access port for ram upgrades though, so that shouldn't be a problem (though you'll have to buy the lap-top or low profile type as desktop ram won't fit in the case). Again the upside here is that it's cheap, and should you end up in the market for a new machine, you'll already have the ram lol. BUT you need to look at your MOBO and see how much ram it can actually support - I would *assume* if you bought your machine within the last 5-7 years it should support *at least* 8 gigs, but you never know.

5. If your computer is a pre-built you may want to invest in a pair of tin-snips because companies have gone to riveting certain bits of hardware in place so that you can't remove them easily on your own so you'll have to cut the old stuff out - if you buy a new card you may also need to cut a slot for it in the back of your case if you're not on a lap-top. Tin snips are p-cheap though and they're handy to have for cutting metal stuff lol. Now that graphics cards have screw-mounts for the sides of the case I've even seen rivets being put in those - so the only way to remove the card is to have a tool for removing the rivets or to cut the bracket off of the card lol.

TF2 is *very* heavily based on the CPU - GPU helps, but the game mostly relies on the CPU for getting stuff done (as do all the other old source games). GPU is typically much easier to upgrade - and if you end up in the market for a new machine, you'll at least have the GPU taken care of if you buy a newish one. If you're *really* hard-up for cash, you can also buy used GPUs on ebay which may or may not have problems when you get them, but they should only run you 50$ usd or so.

So here are the things you need to know.

1. What CPU socket type do you have? Only certain CPUs will fit in certain sockets (square peg circle hole kinda deal - also it allows companies to plan for obsolescence to force you into buying a new MOBO every 4-5 years to get the latest CPUs).

2. What sort of PCI(e) slot do you have - you can put a 3.0 in a 2.0 slot, you just won't get all the newest "features" (shouldn't matter for TF2 since it won't use any of that new tech' anyways).

3. Are you on a lap top? Some lap top types are INCREDIBLY hard to get apart without breaking the thing irreparably unless you know what you're doing and have the proper tools. You may be better off to just get a whole new machine at that point (which is of course why they make laptops so hard to get apart in the first place - I've seen some models that simply couldn't be taken apart at all).

4. What RAM socket type you have - again square peg circle hole problem - although ram is cheap. Again if you're on a lap top you'll have to make sure you can actually access your ram ports without destroying the lap top - *most* companies put an easy access port for ram upgrades though, so that shouldn't be a problem (though you'll have to buy the lap-top or low profile type as desktop ram won't fit in the case). Again the upside here is that it's cheap, and should you end up in the market for a new machine, you'll already have the ram lol. BUT you need to look at your MOBO and see how much ram it can actually support - I would *assume* if you bought your machine within the last 5-7 years it should support *at least* 8 gigs, but you never know.

5. If your computer is a pre-built you may want to invest in a pair of tin-snips because companies have gone to riveting certain bits of hardware in place so that you can't remove them easily on your own so you'll have to cut the old stuff out - if you buy a new card you may also need to cut a slot for it in the back of your case if you're not on a lap-top. Tin snips are p-cheap though and they're handy to have for cutting metal stuff lol. Now that graphics cards have screw-mounts for the sides of the case I've even seen rivets being put in those - so the only way to remove the card is to have a tool for removing the rivets or to cut the bracket off of the card lol.

TF2 is *very* heavily based on the CPU - GPU helps, but the game mostly relies on the CPU for getting stuff done (as do all the other old source games). GPU is typically much easier to upgrade - and if you end up in the market for a new machine, you'll at least have the GPU taken care of if you buy a newish one. If you're *really* hard-up for cash, you can also buy used GPUs on ebay which may or may not have problems when you get them, but they should only run you 50$ usd or so.
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