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Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update
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#121
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MedRedObiMedRedB4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.
so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.

I tried my hardest to keep it under wraps. I didn't post a word and only talked to members of froyo, dashnerr, and eXtine. I never would have said Ash's name. Of course, gossip ensued. I've had many people recount their "through the grapevine" stories to me over the past couple of days. Many absurd, but none as egregious as reality. My intention was to keep it quiet.

If your intention is still to keep quiet, just stop posting. This has continued on way longer than it should. Nothing else needs to be said, and you aren't doing a great job at defending yourself at this point.

[quote=MedRed][quote=Obi][quote=MedRed]
B4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.[/quote]

so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.[/quote]

I tried my hardest to keep it under wraps. I didn't post a word and only talked to members of froyo, dashnerr, and eXtine. I never would have said Ash's name. Of course, gossip ensued. I've had many people recount their "through the grapevine" stories to me over the past couple of days. Many absurd, but none as egregious as reality. My intention was to keep it quiet.[/quote]

If your intention is still to keep quiet, just stop posting. This has continued on way longer than it should. Nothing else needs to be said, and you aren't doing a great job at defending yourself at this point.
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#122
2 Frags +
MedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

Up until tonight, yeah. And yet here we are discussing how you're relevant because of how much money you've spent on TF2 teams/items.

[quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]
Up until tonight, yeah. And yet here we are discussing how you're relevant because of how much money you've spent on TF2 teams/items.
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#123
20 Frags +
MedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

[quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?
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#124
87 Frags +
Muma1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned

okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times

i temp ban people because it's actually impossible to follow discussions with people shitting up every thread with in-jokes and memes

you all have each other to talk to in mumble/steam -- i'm not sure why you think anyone else finds what you say to each other valuable, insightful, or funny.

[quote=Muma]1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned

okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times[/quote]

i temp ban people because it's actually impossible to follow discussions with people shitting up every thread with in-jokes and memes

you all have each other to talk to in mumble/steam -- i'm not sure why you think anyone else finds what you say to each other valuable, insightful, or funny.
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#125
27 Frags +

I too am happy that TLR and Ascent have reached their goal! All the best team froyotech!

I too am happy that TLR and Ascent have reached their goal! All the best team froyotech!
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#126
-5 Frags +

pls lock this cesspool

pls lock this cesspool
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#127
10 Frags +
MedRedThat's exactly what I did.

From how this thread has blown up it isn't

When i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

this implies the opposite

[quote=MedRed]That's exactly what I did.[/quote]
From how this thread has blown up it isn't
[quote]When i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.[/quote]
this implies the opposite
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#128
-13 Frags +
dummyMedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

[quote=dummy][quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?[/quote]

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?
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#129
46 Frags +

how does he withdraw his donation when ash join when clockwork acts the same way lol

how does he withdraw his donation when ash join when clockwork acts the same way lol
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#130
-2 Frags +
MedReddummyMedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

What more do you need to do to him? he's apologized and i for one trust that he takes this seriously, this drama can die already.

[quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?[/quote]

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]
What more do you need to do to him? he's apologized and i for one trust that he takes this seriously, this drama can die already.
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#131
23 Frags +
MedReddummyMedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

..why is the goal to fuck him?

[quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?[/quote]

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]

..why is the goal to fuck him?
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#132
25 Frags +
ekunenigmaMuma1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned

okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times

i temp ban people because it's actually impossible to follow discussions with people shitting up every thread with in-jokes and memes

you all have each other to talk to in mumble/steam -- i'm not sure why you think anyone else finds what you say to each other valuable, insightful, or funny.

What about the pictures of niggers that you didn't nuke?

Imagine being this stupid.

[quote=ekun][quote=enigma][quote=Muma]1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned

okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times[/quote]

i temp ban people because it's actually impossible to follow discussions with people shitting up every thread with in-jokes and memes

you all have each other to talk to in mumble/steam -- i'm not sure why you think anyone else finds what you say to each other valuable, insightful, or funny.[/quote]

What about the pictures of niggers that you didn't nuke?[/quote]

Imagine being this stupid.
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#133
14 Frags +
MedRedWouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time

[quote=MedRed]Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]
no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time
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#134
39 Frags +
aim-how does he withdraw his donation when ash join when clockwork acts the same way lol

I can't speak for the guy, but from what I have seen clock says WAY less offensive stuff than carter.

[quote=aim-]how does he withdraw his donation when ash join when clockwork acts the same way lol[/quote]
I can't speak for the guy, but from what I have seen clock says WAY less offensive stuff than carter.
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#135
34 Frags +

you punished him by refunding your donation, and that forced him to acknowledge his mistake. Now you're hungry for more punishment. It's disgusting, next youre going to find him irl and chop his head off or some shit. You have lost your mind!

you punished him by refunding your donation, and that forced him to acknowledge his mistake. Now you're hungry for more punishment. It's disgusting, next youre going to find him irl and chop his head off or some shit. You have lost your mind!
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#136
6 Frags +

Imagine being this much of a bitter, vindictive asshole over a videogame

Imagine being this much of a bitter, vindictive asshole over a videogame
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#137
39 Frags +

you spelled twilight wrong

you spelled twilight wrong
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#138
19 Frags +

i thought this was you getting offended over someone saying the n-word not you having a personal vendetta against ash and using your money wand to try and terrorize him

i thought this was you getting offended over someone saying the n-word not you having a personal vendetta against ash and using your money wand to try and terrorize him
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#139
14 Frags +
TwilitlordImagine being this much of a bitter, vindictive asshole over a videogame

Its not really about the videogame at this point

[quote=Twilitlord]Imagine being this much of a bitter, vindictive asshole over a videogame[/quote]
Its not really about the videogame at this point
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#140
17 Frags +
dummyyou spelled twilight wrong

damn... i got owned

[quote=dummy]you spelled twilight wrong[/quote]
damn... i got owned
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#141
-13 Frags +
saamMedRedWouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time

you're right, peace out.

[quote=saam][quote=MedRed]Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]
no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time[/quote]

you're right, peace out.
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#142
68 Frags +

Alright hey so in case anyone missed the point of the thread and can’t tread through the trainwreck, this is a community-wide apology and effort. It might seem “apt” that we do this now, but good often comes from bad. TF2 and gaming in general has been plagued by hateful language for a very long time. Even collectively, our team is not a paragon of political correctness. Thus, from this point forward, we are going to try to do some late spring cleaning and choose our words more wisely. The kind of language that triggered this event is embarrassing to see and a game with such a supportive community deserves better.

Hopefully our apologies are a good first step forward. With matchmaking supposedly around the corner and greener pastures ahead, we hope we and other teams can pave the way to a better TF2.

Thanks for all the support!

Alright hey so in case anyone missed the point of the thread and can’t tread through the trainwreck, this is a community-wide apology and effort. It might seem “apt” that we do this now, but good often comes from bad. TF2 and gaming in general has been plagued by hateful language for a very long time. Even collectively, our team is not a paragon of political correctness. Thus, from this point forward, we are going to try to do some late spring cleaning and choose our words more wisely. The kind of language that triggered this event is embarrassing to see and a game with such a supportive community deserves better.

Hopefully our apologies are a good first step forward. With matchmaking supposedly around the corner and greener pastures ahead, we hope we and other teams can pave the way to a better TF2.

Thanks for all the support!
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#143
-8 Frags +
MedRedsaamMedRedWouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time
you're right, peace out.

Later.

[quote=MedRed][quote=saam][quote=MedRed]Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]
no because nothing you say is going to affect him at any time[/quote]

you're right, peace out.[/quote]
Later.
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#144
9 Frags +
MedReddummyMedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

See now it looks like you want to drag this out just for the drama. Look you totally had my support at the start of this thing. I didn't even see anything wrong with you not accepting the apology because you didn't believe he was sincere but now you're starting to act like a gossip girl who has a few secrets and won't tell anyone anything except that you have a secret. It doesn't seem like you want to put this behind you, if anything you're acting like you wan't to add fuel to the fire when you see it starting to die out.

[quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=MedRed][quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]

That's exactly what I did.[/quote]

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?[/quote]

Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?[/quote]

See now it looks like you want to drag this out just for the drama. Look you totally had my support at the start of this thing. I didn't even see anything wrong with you not accepting the apology because you didn't believe he was sincere but now you're starting to act like a gossip girl who has a few secrets and won't tell anyone anything except that you have a secret. It doesn't seem like you want to put this behind you, if anything you're acting like you wan't to add fuel to the fire when you see it starting to die out.
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#145
-16 Frags +

I highly doubt I'm the only one who actually doesn't want any of you to change your personalities because of this...

I highly doubt I'm the only one who actually [u]doesn't[/u] want any of you to change your personalities because of this...
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#146
15 Frags +

ok guys no more posts directed at him, he might come back

ok guys no more posts directed at him, he might come back
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#147
22 Frags +

Can someone please divulge the exact reasons behind MedReds retraction of the donation? No point in keeping it a secret till after i55. And did anyone else just read 6 pages to find no backstory.

Can someone please divulge the exact reasons behind MedReds retraction of the donation? No point in keeping it a secret till after i55. And did anyone else just read 6 pages to find no backstory.
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#148
huds.tf
-4 Frags +

I love how everyone is giving MedRed shit. He still donated to Ascent, his refund is justified. You should all be grateful he donated that much in the first place because we might not have reached the goal at all.

Ash fucked up and gave a fake apology. It was a direct apology to the community, but MedRed called it out on being bullshit because Ash clearly hasn't learnt anything. That's all there is to it. Get on with raising those funds if you want froyo to be there instead of giving someone shit for being offended.

And if we can't raise those funds? No froyo. That's on Ash, not Med.

I love how everyone is giving MedRed shit. He still donated to Ascent, his refund is justified. You should all be grateful he donated that much in the first place because we might not have reached the goal at all.

Ash fucked up and gave a fake apology. It was a direct apology to the community, but MedRed called it out on being bullshit because Ash clearly hasn't learnt anything. That's all there is to it. Get on with raising those funds if you want froyo to be there instead of giving someone shit for being offended.

And if we can't raise those funds? No froyo. That's on Ash, not Med.
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#149
newbie.tf
22 Frags +
lighthouseI highly doubt I'm the only one who actually doesn't want any of you to change your personalities because of this...

you're most certainly in the minority

casually using language that is traditionally associated with belittlement of other people is not okay, and as much as people will say that "a word is a word", that won't change how other people feel about it.

i'm not saying that what's going on currently (in terms of refunds and shitfests) is a good thing, but i think the scene would benefit greatly from not constantly throwing around racial epithets (and its absolutely pathetic that i have to type that out)

[quote=lighthouse]I highly doubt I'm the only one who actually [u]doesn't[/u] want any of you to change your personalities because of this...[/quote]
you're most certainly in the minority

casually using language that is traditionally associated with belittlement of other people is not okay, and as much as people will say that "a word is a word", that won't change how other people feel about it.

i'm not saying that what's going on currently (in terms of refunds and shitfests) is a good thing, but i think the scene would benefit greatly from not constantly throwing around racial epithets (and its absolutely pathetic that i have to type that out)
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lighthouseI highly doubt I'm the only one who actually doesn't want any of you to change your personalities because of this...

I won't change my personality, but there are usually better words to describe something than the ones I sometimes choose. I'll still be the same, but it is an actual problem in gaming and I am actually going to try to avoid it on my end. I do appreciate the sentiment though.

[quote=lighthouse]I highly doubt I'm the only one who actually [u]doesn't[/u] want any of you to change your personalities because of this...[/quote]

I won't change my personality, but there are usually better words to describe something than the ones I sometimes choose. I'll still be the same, but it is an actual problem in gaming and I am [i]actually[/i] going to try to avoid it on my end. I do appreciate the sentiment though.
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