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Jeremy Clarkson suspended from the BBC
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#31
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united cuckoldom

united cuckoldom
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isnt top gear the show watched in most countries worldwide

isnt top gear the show watched in most countries worldwide
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cage-isnt top gear the show watched in most countries worldwide

" 1. Earnings winner: The program is one the BBC's most powerful global brands. British media estimate that Top Gear makes £150 million ($225.8 million) in revenue for the broadcaster's commercial arm BBC Worldwide.
2. Record breaker: The motoring show is the most widely watched factual television program in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records.
3. Global footprint: Top Gear plays in 214 territories worldwide and has an estimated global audience of 350 million. It set viewer records for an unscripted series on BBC America in 2013, while also delivering its highest ever ratings for global channel BBC Knowledge.
4. Clarkson fans: A petition to reinstate the embattled star had attracted nearly 300,000 (note: now almost 700 000) supporters on Wednesday. He's divisive but plenty out there love him - the celebrity has 4.57 million followers on Twitter (TWTR, Tech30). The show itself has more than 24 million fans on Facebook (FB, Tech30).
5. Media offshoots: While changing viewing habits shift audiences toward video-on-demand services across the BBC, sales of Top Gear DVDs still managed to impress. Top Gear: The Perfect Road Trip was the U.K.'s best-selling TV DVD of 2013. And the BBC Top Gear magazine is the number one U.K. motoring title. "

[quote=cage-]isnt top gear the show watched in most countries worldwide[/quote]
" 1. Earnings winner: The program is one the BBC's most powerful global brands. British media estimate that Top Gear makes £150 million ($225.8 million) in revenue for the broadcaster's commercial arm BBC Worldwide.
2. Record breaker: The motoring show is [b]the most widely watched factual television program in the world[/b], according to the Guinness Book of World Records.
3. Global footprint: Top Gear plays in 214 territories worldwide and has an estimated global audience of 350 million. It set viewer records for an unscripted series on BBC America in 2013, while also delivering its highest ever ratings for global channel BBC Knowledge.
4. Clarkson fans: A petition to reinstate the embattled star had attracted nearly 300,000 [i](note: now almost 700 000)[/i] supporters on Wednesday. He's divisive but plenty out there love him - the celebrity has 4.57 million followers on Twitter (TWTR, Tech30). The show itself has more than 24 million fans on Facebook (FB, Tech30).
5. Media offshoots: While changing viewing habits shift audiences toward video-on-demand services across the BBC, sales of Top Gear DVDs still managed to impress. Top Gear: The Perfect Road Trip was the U.K.'s best-selling TV DVD of 2013. And the BBC Top Gear magazine is the number one U.K. motoring title. "
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The BBC can't really win here. Either they lose their second best show and millions of pounds a year or they are seen as having one set of rules for normal people and another set for celebrities. And it's not exactly overly politically correct to want to sack someone because they punched a coworker in the face.

The BBC can't really win here. Either they lose their second best show and millions of pounds a year or they are seen as having one set of rules for normal people and another set for celebrities. And it's not exactly overly politically correct to want to sack someone because they punched a coworker in the face.
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Too big to fail: Top Gear edition.

Too big to fail: Top Gear edition.
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i wonder if jeremy is just trying to see what he can get away with at this point

i wonder if jeremy is just trying to see what he can get away with at this point
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ELA thats what they said about two and a half men

ELA thats what they said about two and a half men
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https://www.change.org/p/british-broadcasting-corporation-replace-jeremy-clarkson-with-julian-clary-as-presenter-of-top-gear

https://www.change.org/p/british-broadcasting-corporation-replace-jeremy-clarkson-with-julian-clary-as-presenter-of-top-gear
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GentlemanJonhttps://www.change.org/p/british-broadcasting-corporation-replace-jeremy-clarkson-with-julian-clary-as-presenter-of-top-gear

I never seen him before, who is he?

he will bring top gear to a wider population in a witty and intelligent manner.

I liked the show for it's humor, now it's going to be some intelligent program that won't be fun

[quote=GentlemanJon]https://www.change.org/p/british-broadcasting-corporation-replace-jeremy-clarkson-with-julian-clary-as-presenter-of-top-gear[/quote]

I never seen him before, who is he?
[quote] he will bring top gear to a wider population in a witty and intelligent manner.[/quote]
I liked the show for it's humor, now it's going to be some intelligent program that won't be fun
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idk but he looks p. gay

idk but he looks p. gay
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Possibly because he is gay.

God forbid Top Gear fans have to deal with someone who has a different sexuality than them!

Possibly because he is gay.

God forbid Top Gear fans have to deal with someone who has a different sexuality than them!
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His sexuality doesn't matter. The fact that he's not Clarkson does. If they try to continue without him, I'm done with the show.

His sexuality doesn't matter. The fact that he's not Clarkson does. If they try to continue without him, I'm done with the show.
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TurinHis sexuality doesn't matter. The fact that he's not Clarkson does. If they try to continue without him, I'm done with the show.

If the BBC don't renew his contract he'll turn up on Sky doing basically the same thing, I really wouldn't worry about it.

[quote=Turin]His sexuality doesn't matter. The fact that he's not Clarkson does. If they try to continue without him, I'm done with the show.[/quote]
If the BBC don't renew his contract he'll turn up on Sky doing basically the same thing, I really wouldn't worry about it.
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TurinThere's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?

[quote=Turin]There's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.[/quote]

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?
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TurinThere's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.

http://media.tumblr.com/4e0a89733619180b786bce3fc5dc5b59/tumblr_inline_njs9fuZvSd1qa6zmp.jpg

[quote=Turin]There's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.[/quote]

[img]http://media.tumblr.com/4e0a89733619180b786bce3fc5dc5b59/tumblr_inline_njs9fuZvSd1qa6zmp.jpg[/img]
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EricTurinThere's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.
That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?

pls gftfo with this shitty sjw agenda
these gentlemen are discussing a fucking tv show here, and i for one am not interested in whatever "social injustice" rustles people's jimmies nowadays

[quote=Eric][quote=Turin]There's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.[/quote]

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?[/quote]

pls gftfo with this shitty sjw agenda
these gentlemen are discussing a fucking tv show here, and i for one am not interested in whatever "social injustice" rustles people's jimmies nowadays
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torrit ur dum

torrit ur dum
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EricTurinThere's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.
That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?

Yes, I am indeed saying that there is nothing wrong with making jokes about horrible things. I get that things such as rape and racism are horrible, but that shouldn't prevent people from making jokes. I don't think people actually are attempting to trivialize these things, as comedy can be an important tool in recognizing problems in society. George Carlin said some things that, out of context are horrible, but in context he was using comedy as an insightful tool in pointing out how racism is wrong.

I'm sorry that some people don't appreciate them, but as you said, there's a difference between words and actions. When someone makes a joke about the holocaust, they aren't actually murdering people due to differences of creed. I'm not defending racism, or rape, or anything else horrible, but I am defending comedy as a tool that reflects on our society. Was Dave Chappelle arguing that racism is true and right, or was he showing the absurd nature of racism in the world?

[quote=Eric][quote=Turin]There's a difference between actual racism and racist humor. One is actually treating a group wrong, the other is words. Nothing's wrong with racist humor, it can be fucking hilarious. Top Gear isn't actually racist, they're making jokes. Big difference.[/quote]

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with rape jokes because it's "words". Can you not see how reducing serious issues to jokes trivializes the issues and their victims?[/quote]

Yes, I am indeed saying that there is nothing wrong with making jokes about horrible things. I get that things such as rape and racism are horrible, but that shouldn't prevent people from making jokes. I don't think people actually are attempting to trivialize these things, as comedy can be an important tool in recognizing problems in society. George Carlin said some things that, out of context are horrible, but in context he was using comedy as an insightful tool in pointing out how racism is wrong.

I'm sorry that some people don't appreciate them, but as you said, there's a difference between [i]words[/i] and [i]actions[/i]. When someone makes a joke about the holocaust, they aren't actually murdering people due to differences of creed. I'm not defending racism, or rape, or anything else horrible, but I am defending comedy as a tool that reflects on our society. Was Dave Chappelle arguing that racism is true and right, or was he showing the absurd nature of racism in the world?
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yo if you people want to be white knights social justice leftist warriors go back to tumblr and go trigger yourself over something
if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows

yo if you people want to be white knights social justice leftist warriors go back to tumblr and go trigger yourself over something
if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_fb

Clarkson is a dick, he attacked someone over serving of a meal but people want to see him back cos he hosts their favourite TV show?

I watch Top Gear now and again but I can honestly live without it, I don't want my TV License money funding a cunt like Clarkson.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_fb

Clarkson is a dick, he attacked someone over serving of a meal but people want to see him back cos he hosts their favourite TV show?

I watch Top Gear now and again but I can honestly live without it, I don't want my TV License money funding a cunt like Clarkson.
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If people think this show is racist. Lord help them when they encounter real discrimination. The will probably just cower and run away back to their computer to rant about it, rather than actually calling the racist person out on it.

If people think this show is racist. Lord help them when they encounter real discrimination. The will probably just cower and run away back to their computer to rant about it, rather than actually calling the racist person out on it.
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The guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao

Also for clarity about what this argument actually is:

Jeremy did NOT punch the guy, he shoved him and raised his fist. Nobody is saying he didn't, and yet that isn't the point of him not returning to the BBC or this entire discussion. They've been looking for months for an excuse to sack him after all the complaints they get. Most of them are ridiculous too, people complained when he compared an ugly car to someone who got defaced with a garden tool. Over 300 people thought that offended them for some reason. If that's worth sacking over I don't know why they kept the Jimmy Savile case secret. Another detail: Jeremy reported the incident himself essentially "turning himself in". It's the way they're handling the situation, scrapping the program and making millions of loss, instead of handling it internally, that's pissing people off. In my opinion, rightly so.

The guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao

Also for clarity about what this argument actually is:

Jeremy did NOT punch the guy, he shoved him and raised his fist. Nobody is saying he didn't, and yet that isn't the point of him not returning to the BBC or this entire discussion. They've been looking for months for an excuse to sack him after all the complaints they get. Most of them are ridiculous too, people complained when he compared an ugly car to someone who got defaced with a garden tool. Over 300 people thought that offended them for some reason. If that's worth sacking over I don't know why they kept the Jimmy Savile case secret. Another detail: Jeremy reported the incident himself essentially "turning himself in". It's the way they're handling the situation, scrapping the program and making millions of loss, instead of handling it internally, that's pissing people off. In my opinion, rightly so.
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how much of a twat do you have to be for you guys to think a firing is justified? considering how much $$$$ bbc was making off top gear, can you imagine what a giant asshat this guy must have been to work with for them to actually fire him? you people are acting like they fired him because of a tumblr petition, but really it was a media giant who decided that the assloads of money they were currently making were not worth the risk of having him on

how much of a twat do you have to be for you guys to think a firing is justified? considering how much $$$$ bbc was making off top gear, can you imagine what a giant asshat this guy must have been to work with for them to actually fire him? you people are acting like they fired him because of a tumblr petition, but really it was a media giant who decided that the assloads of money they were currently making were not worth the risk of having him on
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Turin...

It's not that people shouldn't make jokes. Censorship is a way worse alternative to allowing offensive behavior. But sometimes such behavior transcends "offensiveness" and becomes harmful.

If people consider things like racism as a punchline rather than a serious and present issue, then that's how people will treat it in the real world. Liking or making racist humor doesn't make you a racist anymore than the same attitude towards rapist humor makes you a rapist, but the consequence of that behavior is that serious problems are less likely to be met with serious responses, which is, in and of itself, harmful. I consider it wrong to harm people for the sake of amusement. Claiming that it is actually a tool which provides insight into certain issues doesn't mean it's any less harmful, although I firmly believe the benefits outweigh the harm it makes in many cases.

As for the case with Jeremy Clarkson, I don't know, since I don't watch Top Gear.

Schweppesyo if you people want to be white knights social justice leftist warriors go back to tumblr and go trigger yourself over something
if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows

Nothing you just said was at all relevant, other than Top Gear is indeed a British comedy show.

[quote=Turin]...[/quote]

It's not that people shouldn't make jokes. Censorship is a way worse alternative to allowing offensive behavior. But sometimes such behavior transcends "offensiveness" and becomes harmful.

If people consider things like racism as a punchline rather than a serious and present issue, then that's how people will treat it in the real world. Liking or making racist humor doesn't make you a racist anymore than the same attitude towards rapist humor makes you a rapist, but the consequence of that behavior is that serious problems are less likely to be met with serious responses, which is, in and of itself, harmful. I consider it wrong to harm people for the sake of amusement. Claiming that it is actually a tool which provides insight into certain issues doesn't mean it's any less harmful, although I firmly believe the benefits outweigh the harm it makes in many cases.

As for the case with Jeremy Clarkson, I don't know, since I don't watch Top Gear.

[quote=Schweppes]yo if you people want to be white knights social justice leftist warriors go back to tumblr and go trigger yourself over something
if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows[/quote]

Nothing you just said was at all relevant, other than Top Gear is indeed a British comedy show.
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Show isn't even called top gun.

Show isn't even called top gun.
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EricI don't watch Top Gun.EricTop Gun is indeed a British comedy show.EricTop Gun

https://filmfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/Top%20Gun%203.jpg

rare footage of jeremy clarkson's youth

[quote=Eric]
I don't watch Top Gun.[/quote]
[quote=Eric]Top Gun is indeed a British comedy show.[/quote]
[quote=Eric]Top Gun[/quote]
[img]https://filmfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/Top%20Gun%203.jpg[/img]
rare footage of jeremy clarkson's youth
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SchweppesEricI don't watch Top Gun.EricTop Gun is indeed a British comedy show.EricTop Gunhttps://filmfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/Top%20Gun%203.jpg
rare footage of jeremy clarkson's youth

LOL fuck i just watched it again last night, my bad

[quote=Schweppes][quote=Eric]
I don't watch Top Gun.[/quote]
[quote=Eric]Top Gun is indeed a British comedy show.[/quote]
[quote=Eric]Top Gun[/quote]
[img]https://filmfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/Top%20Gun%203.jpg[/img]
rare footage of jeremy clarkson's youth[/quote]

LOL fuck i just watched it again last night, my bad
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Schweppesif you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy showsSchweppesAm I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

Don't read the Guardian?

[quote=Schweppes]if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows[/quote]
[quote=Schweppes]Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.[/quote]
Don't read the Guardian?
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SchweppesThe guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao

Have you never read an opinion piece before? They're kind of by definition biased. It doesn't mean that the views espoused necessarily are that of the newspaper

[quote=Schweppes]The guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao

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Have you never read an opinion piece before? They're kind of by definition biased. It doesn't mean that the views espoused necessarily are that of the newspaper
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GentlemanJonSchweppesif you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy showsSchweppesAm I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.Don't read the Guardian?

He specifically linked it to show as to why people think he should be sacked. It's not that the woman's views offend me because that would be ironic, I just think it's really poorly written and I thought stuff like this wouldn't end up being related to a big newspaper but rather someone's blog.

nopeSchweppesThe guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao
Have you never read an opinion piece before? They're kind of by definition biased. It doesn't mean that the views espoused necessarily are that of the newspaper

Yes, I just thought their standards were higher for what they actually publish, even if it's just the opinion of the writer.

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=Schweppes]if you can't take jokes like these and think they're crossing lines then don't want British comedy shows[/quote]
[quote=Schweppes]Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.[/quote]
Don't read the Guardian?[/quote]
He specifically linked it to show as to why people think he should be sacked. It's not that the woman's views offend me because that would be ironic, I just think it's really [i]poorly[/i] written and I thought stuff like this wouldn't end up being related to a big newspaper but rather someone's blog.
[quote=nope][quote=Schweppes]The guardian is a great and politically unbiased newspaper.

First paragraph: "Jeremy Clarkson, voice of the people/mega-sized tool (delete as appropriate to you, dear reader). It’s really great to have Jeremy fighting in our corner for that under-represented demographic, the self-entitled, middle-aged white man who just wants to beat up on those in a less privileged position than him – from ethnic minorities to a producer who, we are now told, failed to provide Jezza’s din-dins on demand."

Am I reading a mainstream newspaper or a shitty whiny blog? I honestly can't tell.

"Honestly, the rest of the TV schedule is just overrun with middle-aged women talking about feminism and vaginas, 24/7. To get rid of Jeremy is just part and parcel of the feminazi thought-police tactics that are strangling this country, and it’s unacceptable."

I know it's supposed to be sarcasm but lmao

[/quote]
Have you never read an opinion piece before? They're kind of by definition biased. It doesn't mean that the views espoused necessarily are that of the newspaper[/quote]
Yes, I just thought their standards were higher for what they actually publish, even if it's just the opinion of the writer.
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