I was wondering about the community opinion on reviving the ESEA All-Star game? In the past, it was only done for invite players during Seasons 4, 5 and 6. I do not know how it was received back then because I was not around. However, the way events and streaming is done these days, it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.
I would recommend some changes if it did happen. I have a pretty well thought out format on picking the All-Star’s but I wouldn't want to make this post about rules and such. Suffice to say, it would be important to maintain some type of competitive feel and make it more than just a pug environment.
It would be fantastic and helpful if ESEA would sponsor and hold an event like this for the community. If ESEA doesn't respond, there are likely individuals in the community who can band together and make a small event like this happen anyway. I would be willing to devote time and help organize the event. With good streaming and quality casters along with possible prizes for the winning teams, it could be fun.
My personal feeling is for events like this to cater more to the players in IM and Open as well as potential new players watching the event live. I know everyone loves to see their favorite Invite players all the time but I would enjoy seeing an All-Star game for the IM and Open divisions more. I think everyone can agree that the current skill level of TF2 players in IM and Open has greatly increased since seasons 4,5 and 6. Watching 12 of the top IM and Open players will give some new up and coming players a chance to showcase their talent and get some real exposure. This can fuel other lower level players to practice and improve so they can do the same thing. Basically I am saying we, as a relatively small community, should showcase more of the mid/low division players and teams in an effort to boost new interest. Events like this can help that goal. Thoughts?
I was wondering about the community opinion on reviving the ESEA All-Star game? In the past, it was only done for invite players during Seasons 4, 5 and 6. I do not know how it was received back then because I was not around. However, the way events and streaming is done these days, it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.
I would recommend some changes if it did happen. I have a pretty well thought out format on picking the All-Star’s but I wouldn't want to make this post about rules and such. Suffice to say, it would be important to maintain some type of competitive feel and make it more than just a pug environment.
It would be fantastic and helpful if ESEA would sponsor and hold an event like this for the community. If ESEA doesn't respond, there are likely individuals in the community who can band together and make a small event like this happen anyway. I would be willing to devote time and help organize the event. With good streaming and quality casters along with possible prizes for the winning teams, it could be fun.
My personal feeling is for events like this to cater more to the players in IM and Open as well as potential new players watching the event live. I know everyone loves to see their favorite Invite players all the time but I would enjoy seeing an All-Star game for the IM and Open divisions more. I think everyone can agree that the current skill level of TF2 players in IM and Open has greatly increased since seasons 4,5 and 6. Watching 12 of the top IM and Open players will give some new up and coming players a chance to showcase their talent and get some real exposure. This can fuel other lower level players to practice and improve so they can do the same thing. Basically I am saying we, as a relatively small community, should showcase more of the mid/low division players and teams in an effort to boost new interest. Events like this can help that goal. Thoughts?
it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug
[quote]it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.[/quote]
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug
[i]sounds[/i] like a good idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_wWFRW0Tw
Play x10 Randomizer all star game
Play x10 Randomizer all star game
Teapot_basically invite pugs
minus eulogy
[quote=Teapot_]basically invite pugs[/quote]
minus eulogy
play highlander at lan lol
play highlander at lan lol
defyit could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug
I am curious, do you think that possibly the reason "nobody showed up" or "took it seriously" is because:
A - There were not prizes? No incentive?
B - The matches had Invite players? No motivation because they were already on top?
C - No Match Structure? How did ESEA pick the players? In my format, team players will be kept together so it feels less like a pug.
Also, Were these all-star games casted live for the community?
[quote=defy][quote]it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.[/quote]
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug[/quote]
I am curious, do you think that possibly the reason "nobody showed up" or "took it seriously" is because:
A - There were not prizes? No incentive?
B - The matches had Invite players? No motivation because they were already on top?
C - No Match Structure? How did ESEA pick the players? In my format, team players will be kept together so it feels less like a pug.
Also, Were these all-star games casted live for the community?
wTeapot_basically invite pugs
minus eulogy
it is now a good idea
[quote=w][quote=Teapot_]basically invite pugs[/quote]
minus eulogy[/quote]
it is now a good idea
Maybe I'm too negative here, but I can see a lot of Open (and even a few IM guys) playing a very self-centered and team-destructive type of tf2 in an attempt to make an all-star game.
Maybe I'm too negative here, but I can see a lot of Open (and even a few IM guys) playing a very self-centered and team-destructive type of tf2 in an attempt to make an all-star game.
SpaceCadetdefyit could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug
I am curious, do you think that possibly the reason "nobody showed up" or "took it seriously" is because:
A - There were not prizes? No incentive?
B - The matches had Invite players? No motivation because they were already on top?
C - No Match Structure? How did ESEA pick the players? In my format, team players will be kept together so it feels less like a pug.
Also, Were these all-star games casted live for the community?
I played in the last one of these all star games (http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=1731360 I believe it was the last one) and Im pretty positive no one took it seriously is because it was organized so poorly, ESEA waited until the very last minute to pick players to play in the game and when some of them weren't available it turned into a shitshow of admins trying to run around finding any invite player who would play. There can never really be "Incentive" to play "seriously" in an All-Star game for real tho, All-Star games are meant to be a platform in which pro players can have fun and show off skills they wouldn't usually be able to use in regular season matches (See basketball, hockey All Star games etc) so its not really a good idea to make players take it "serious" or there isn't much point for the players, which is what its all about (I know its for spectators too, but its a lot about the players IMO). I think it could be an interesting concept to make an event out of it tho at LAN or something? Kind of like Basketballs 3 point competition and dunk contest to go along with their all star game, you could potentially have something like MGE tournaments or Bball, I don't know, something along those lines. If its at LAN and with smaller events like these its maybe easier for a full on All-Star Match to follow.
[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=defy][quote]it could possibly be a really good event for the TF2 community.[/quote]
it isn't, they stopped doing it because
A) people didn't show up
B) no one took it seriously
C) its basically watching a pug[/quote]
I am curious, do you think that possibly the reason "nobody showed up" or "took it seriously" is because:
A - There were not prizes? No incentive?
B - The matches had Invite players? No motivation because they were already on top?
C - No Match Structure? How did ESEA pick the players? In my format, team players will be kept together so it feels less like a pug.
Also, Were these all-star games casted live for the community?[/quote]
I played in the last one of these all star games (http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=1731360 I believe it was the last one) and Im pretty positive no one took it seriously is because it was organized so poorly, ESEA waited until the very last minute to pick players to play in the game and when some of them weren't available it turned into a shitshow of admins trying to run around finding any invite player who would play. There can never really be "Incentive" to play "seriously" in an All-Star game for real tho, All-Star games are meant to be a platform in which pro players can have fun and show off skills they wouldn't usually be able to use in regular season matches (See basketball, hockey All Star games etc) so its not really a good idea to make players take it "serious" or there isn't much point for the players, which is what its all about (I know its for spectators too, but its a lot about the players IMO). I think it could be an interesting concept to make an event out of it tho at LAN or something? Kind of like Basketballs 3 point competition and dunk contest to go along with their all star game, you could potentially have something like MGE tournaments or Bball, I don't know, something along those lines. If its at LAN and with smaller events like these its maybe easier for a full on All-Star Match to follow.
Ugc highlander has been doing these for a long time, and it's literally just watching a pug. It's not going to be very fun for the players or the spectators.
Ugc highlander has been doing these for a long time, and it's literally just watching a pug. It's not going to be very fun for the players or the spectators.