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Before going into comp
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Hello. I've been interested in comp tf2 for about 6 months and have done some lobbies, but before I go full steam ahead with people like stabby quitting I wonder does going into comp affect your life too much? I.e Spending all day scriming, no time for anything else type stuff? While I do want to be in comp I don't wanna end up self destructing and burning my self out any tips to avoid this?

Hello. I've been interested in comp tf2 for about 6 months and have done some lobbies, but before I go full steam ahead with people like stabby quitting I wonder does going into comp affect your life too much? I.e Spending all day scriming, no time for anything else type stuff? While I do want to be in comp I don't wanna end up self destructing and burning my self out any tips to avoid this?
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#2
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It affects your schedule, Yes. But that's pretty much it.
Just make sure to make time for everything, Including time for yourself to rest or whatever.

It affects your schedule, Yes. But that's pretty much it.
Just make sure to make time for everything, Including time for yourself to rest or whatever.
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If you wanna play comp, it depends what you want with it, do you just want to play it for fun, or to become the best, if you just play for fun, all you gotta do is reserve something like an hour 3-4 nights a week to scrim with your team, if you want to become really good you have to grind a lot of shit depending on the class you play

If you wanna play comp, it depends what you want with it, do you just want to play it for fun, or to become the best, if you just play for fun, all you gotta do is reserve something like an hour 3-4 nights a week to scrim with your team, if you want to become really good you have to grind a lot of shit depending on the class you play
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#4
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Most teams start scriming usually somewhere in the evening, usually starting at 7:00 pm (depends on time zone) and usually last from 1 to 3 hours (depends on if it's 6s or HL as well), if you can't play scrim, then it's not a problem, your team can get a Merc/Sub (someone who will play a Scrim for you) and you can do your IRL things, you'll have to warn team leader tho.

It doesn't affect your life that much, it just depends on how organized you are, if you're way too busy in real life, then you might consider Subbing for a team instead.

Most teams start scriming usually somewhere in the evening, usually starting at 7:00 pm (depends on time zone) and usually last from 1 to 3 hours (depends on if it's 6s or HL as well), if you can't play scrim, then it's not a problem, your team can get a Merc/Sub (someone who will play a Scrim for you) and you can do your IRL things, you'll have to warn team leader tho.

It doesn't affect your life that much, it just depends on how organized you are, if you're way too busy in real life, then you might consider Subbing for a team instead.
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#5
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Pretty much every NA team starts scrimming around 9:30 EST and end around 11-12 depending on the players in the team. You should never let any video game get in the way of hanging out with friends or family, its not that important when it comes down to it. Teams usually have one backup or at least know a few people who can sub for you, so don't worry about ruining scrims or something.

Really just play and have fun, don't overdue it and then lose all interest in playing, one way to do this is to play other games than TF2 occasionally.

Pretty much every NA team starts scrimming around 9:30 EST and end around 11-12 depending on the players in the team. You should never let any video game get in the way of hanging out with friends or family, its not that important when it comes down to it. Teams usually have one backup or at least know a few people who can sub for you, so don't worry about ruining scrims or something.

Really just play and have fun, don't overdue it and then lose all interest in playing, one way to do this is to play other games than TF2 occasionally.
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#6
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Just find out what you are doing on a normal week and see where you are allocating your time. From that, see where if any time you can fit in for playing some games. If you can't, you could still join a pugging group or a pug/scrim team if you can't dedicate to having set match times. It'd be something to do if you want to play comp.

Just find out what you are doing on a normal week and see where you are allocating your time. From that, see where if any time you can fit in for playing some games. If you can't, you could still join a pugging group or a pug/scrim team if you can't dedicate to having set match times. It'd be something to do if you want to play comp.
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#7
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Try to set a schedule, and stick to it.

It sounds so simple, but will ensure health for your brain. =]

Try to set a schedule, and stick to it.

It sounds so simple, but will ensure health for your brain. =]
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#8
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If you want to get into comp tf2 it's obvious that you have something competitive about yourself, if you have that you will invariably want to get better, to get better you will need to practice a lot, practice takes time...

It's all a bit redundant because if you're really interested in comp you will spend time on it, how much it depends on you, but if you enjoy it I wouldn't consider it time wasted, obviously there are a lot of priorities in life and things change sometimes.

When I got into comp I spent a whole lot of time doing comp related stuff and practicing, but I enjoyed it, sometimes I went too far and messed my priorities because of it but it depends entirely on you, on how you can handle that and set limits for yourself. You can have a set and planned schedule and you can still get better without wasting all your time.

If you want to get into comp tf2 it's obvious that you have something competitive about yourself, if you have that you will invariably want to get better, to get better you will need to practice a lot, practice takes time...

It's all a bit redundant because if you're really interested in comp you will spend time on it, how much it depends on you, but if you enjoy it I wouldn't consider it time wasted, obviously there are a lot of priorities in life and things change sometimes.

When I got into comp I spent a whole lot of time doing comp related stuff and practicing, but I enjoyed it, sometimes I went too far and messed my priorities because of it but it depends entirely on you, on how you can handle that and set limits for yourself. You can have a set and planned schedule and you can still get better without wasting all your time.
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#9
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It's as consuming as the next hobby you can think of.

It's as consuming as the next hobby you can think of.
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#10
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As with most things you will get out what you put in. If you're okay improving very slowly or not at all you won't have to commit much of your time. If you have the drive to be really good you'll have to sink the hours in. That doesn't mean it has to absorb your life though. There are plenty of hours in the day if you practice managing your time.

As with most things you will get out what you put in. If you're okay improving very slowly or not at all you won't have to commit much of your time. If you have the drive to be really good you'll have to sink the hours in. That doesn't mean it has to absorb your life though. There are plenty of hours in the day if you practice managing your time.
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#11
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Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.

Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.
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#12
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MOOSE_Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.

But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.

Cross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.

[quote=MOOSE_][s]Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.[/s]
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.[/quote]

Cross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.
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HuckCross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.

i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.

[quote=Huck]Cross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.[/quote]
i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.
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#14
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MOOSE_HuckCross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.

You need to find new ppl to hang with then :s

[quote=MOOSE_][quote=Huck]Cross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.[/quote]
i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.[/quote]
You need to find new ppl to hang with then :s
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#15
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MOOSE_HuckCross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.

The CSGO community is easily 10x worse than TF2. At least here we try to help people get into competitive via Newbie Mixes, while in CSGO if your new and looking to get into competitive, they have no problem with telling you that your really shit and would never have a chance.

Even this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.

[quote=MOOSE_][quote=Huck]Cross out that first part and your post wouldn't be utter shit.[/quote]
i say it like it is. The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.[/quote]

The CSGO community is easily 10x worse than TF2. At least here we try to help people get into competitive via Newbie Mixes, while in CSGO if your new and looking to get into competitive, they have no problem with telling you that your really shit and would never have a chance.

Even this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.
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#16
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MOOSE_Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.

i know this is bait but

http://i.imgur.com/tHJomxe.png

come on son

[quote=MOOSE_]Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.[/quote]

i know this is bait but
[img]http://i.imgur.com/tHJomxe.png[/img]
come on son
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valkeriEven this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.

I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.

[quote=valkeri]Even this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.[/quote]
I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.
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#18
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MOOSE_valkeriEven this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.

ok so you literally made like 3-5 looking threads in the span of 2-3 weeks looking for high open/IM teams despite the fact that your only experience were lobbies (which you linked your stats to LOBBIES as proof of your experience)

each time u made a thread you would get a negative response followed by maybe 1 or 2 people telling you it would not be a good idea to look for a team of those levels without any experience, without playing against anyone at that level or knowing anyone there. the fact that u were also pretty much unknown and set up a reputation for yourself as that guy who kept making awful looking threads repeatedly everyday made it worse even though people did tell you that you should look for a lower level

and now you find yourself getting a negative response from people on a daily basis (mostly because you shit post a lot) which = community is toxic and they're all out to get me and put me down!!! or something apparently

[quote=MOOSE_][quote=valkeri]Even this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.[/quote]
I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.[/quote]

ok so you literally made like 3-5 looking threads in the span of 2-3 weeks looking for high open/IM teams despite the fact that your only experience were lobbies (which you linked your stats to LOBBIES as proof of your experience)

each time u made a thread you would get a negative response followed by maybe 1 or 2 people telling you it would not be a good idea to look for a team of those levels without any experience, without playing against anyone at that level or knowing anyone there. the fact that u were also pretty much unknown and set up a reputation for yourself as that guy who kept making awful looking threads repeatedly everyday made it worse even though people did tell you that you should look for a lower level

and now you find yourself getting a negative response from people on a daily basis (mostly because you shit post a lot) which = community is toxic and they're all out to get me and put me down!!! or something apparently
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#19
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MOOSE_Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.

Lots of people play quake and community is wonderful

[quote=MOOSE_]Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.[/quote]
Lots of people play quake and community is wonderful
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#20
8 Frags +

this game has ruined me

this game has ruined me
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#21
9 Frags +
MOOSE_Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.

Who are you and how I have not heard of you cause you are a legendary asshole.

[quote=MOOSE_]Once you invest your time in tf2, there's really not that many redeeming qualities.
If you are a new player trying to get better it is likely that the comp community will be toxic to you.
If you are a not a new player the comp community is still pretty toxic.
Also, playing at a high level takes so much time and commitment that when tf2 dies you will be left with nothing to do.
The skillset does not cross over to any other game really. Maybe quake, but who still plays quake.
Logically I would say don't put time into tf2.
But, I am still going to advise you to try playing tf2. Join a league with some friends and play the game for fun. Your div doesn't matter as long as you are getting better as a player and enjoying yourself.[/quote]

Who are you and how I have not heard of you cause you are a legendary asshole.
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#22
6 Frags +

he just posts dumb shit 24/7

he just posts dumb shit 24/7
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#23
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MOOSE_valkeriEven this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.

I can pull them up if you want me to, but I know that several people including myself posted about how you had too high of expectations and should try playing in either Open or UGC, yet you continued making new threads about it.

[quote=MOOSE_][quote=valkeri]Even this thread is proof that the competitive community is supportive of new players. The only reason you see it your way is because in the beginning you made really shitty posts about things, at one point you had three LFT posts about you looking for an IM team even though you had never played competitive.[/quote]
I think that there are people in the comp community who are supportive of new players, but that is not the majority. I have had like 3 good friends who just quit tf2 because the community was so toxic, and yes, when I started playing in esea I didn't know what I was doing. I knew I wanted to play at a high level, but I didn't know what level I should be playing at. What would have helped is if someone actually explained shit, rather than being a douche about it.[/quote]

I can pull them up if you want me to, but I know that several people including myself posted about how you had too high of expectations and should try playing in either Open or UGC, yet you continued making new threads about it.
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#24
4 Frags +

protip: time spent reading anything moose_ posts is time wasted

what everyone else has been saying is good advice though, it's all up to if you're looking to improve fast or if you're fine with taking your time

protip: time spent reading anything moose_ posts is time wasted

what everyone else has been saying is good advice though, it's all up to if you're looking to improve fast or if you're fine with taking your time
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#25
8 Frags +

Play with your friends, if you don't have any, you'll make some. Stick with them. They'll make the game way more fun and you'll end up wanting to play video games with them several nights a week anyhow. Then branch out a bit, because it's crushing when they quit.

Play with your friends, if you don't have any, you'll make some. Stick with them. They'll make the game way more fun and you'll end up wanting to play video games with them several nights a week anyhow. Then branch out a bit, because it's crushing when they quit.
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#26
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MOOSE_The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.

Linkuser and HA Johnny are the nicest people I've ever met irl/online.

[quote=MOOSE_]The tf2 community is the cancer of a fun game. I seriously can't think of a single tf2 player who in comparison with a normal human, is not an asshole.[/quote]

Linkuser and HA Johnny are the nicest people I've ever met irl/online.
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#27
3 Frags +
MarxistPlay with your friends, if you don't have any, you'll make some. Stick with them. They'll make the game way more fun and you'll end up wanting to play video games with them several nights a week anyhow. Then branch out a bit, because it's crushing when they quit.

Definitely follow this advice. I started playing with friends, and have been doing it for a long while, and I don't regret any of the seasons I played.

I find all this talk about toxic players really silly. In my time as moderator here (i.e. I read a lot of fucking posts) and all my time knowing anyone playing in ESEA, I don't think I've come across anyone who was legitimately toxic (while playing with them). You can go to LAN in person to meet the top players of this game (in the world, mind), say hi to them and chat with them, and they don't mind doing it, even though they don't have to. S13 was the first season I played, and I went to that LAN and hung out with everyone. To say that the majority of this community is unfriendly is literally incorrect.

[quote=Marxist]Play with your friends, if you don't have any, you'll make some. Stick with them. They'll make the game way more fun and you'll end up wanting to play video games with them several nights a week anyhow. Then branch out a bit, because it's crushing when they quit.[/quote]
Definitely follow this advice. I started playing with friends, and have been doing it for a long while, and I don't regret any of the seasons I played.

I find all this talk about toxic players really silly. In my time as moderator here (i.e. I read a lot of fucking posts) and all my time knowing anyone playing in ESEA, I don't think I've come across anyone who was legitimately toxic (while playing with them). You can go to LAN in person to meet the top players of this game (in the world, mind), say hi to them and chat with them, and they don't mind doing it, even though they don't have to. S13 was the first season I played, and I went to that LAN and hung out with everyone. To say that the majority of this community is unfriendly is literally incorrect.
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#28
1 Frags +

this game ruined my life

this game ruined my life
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#29
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^

^
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#30
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http://i4.minus.com/ibp3dxZy2Vys4F.png

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