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#121
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XanI know it seems like you are being altruistic and/or a good guy but you're not. It seems like a thinly veiled version of a kid jumping up and down screaming "HE CHEATED HE CHEATED. THAT MEANS I WIN" over a single game. It was likely from the beginning that no ESEA action would be taken. It seems clear that he wasn't banned as a result of cheating in Tf2

Well that's your opinion, however that's not what I was getting at. I truly like all the AG guys, and any time we play them it's a fun (usually close) game. Yes, they beat us 5-4 this season but they also beat 7 other teams who may also be curious about what's up with insom. Apparently his VAC ban wasn't for TF2, but based on the reactions in both threads a lot of people seemed to think that prior to this debacle that he maybe had been cheating. I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.

Even if I was to watch an STV and found proof he was walling in our match and they overturned it, it really changes nothing in the long run. It would change a pretty meaningless stat and we would still have to play each other again in the playoffs and the better team would win. I'm not looking for handouts, or shortcuts. I want to earn wins not complain to get them after a loss. That's not how I am, it never has been. I was really just asking an honest question to get the thread back on topic.

[quote=Xan]I know it seems like you are being altruistic and/or a good guy but you're not. It seems like a thinly veiled version of a kid jumping up and down screaming "HE CHEATED HE CHEATED. THAT MEANS I WIN" over a single game. It was likely from the beginning that no ESEA action would be taken. It seems clear that he wasn't banned as a result of cheating in Tf2[/quote]

Well that's your opinion, however that's not what I was getting at. I truly like all the AG guys, and any time we play them it's a fun (usually close) game. Yes, they beat us 5-4 this season but they also beat 7 other teams who may also be curious about what's up with insom. Apparently his VAC ban wasn't for TF2, but based on the reactions in both threads a lot of people seemed to think that prior to this debacle that he maybe had been cheating. I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.

Even if I was to watch an STV and found proof he was walling in our match and they overturned it, it really changes nothing in the long run. It would change a pretty meaningless stat and we would still have to play each other again in the playoffs and the better team would win. I'm not looking for handouts, or shortcuts. I want to earn wins not complain to get them after a loss. That's not how I am, it never has been. I was really just asking an honest question to get the thread back on topic.
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#122
4 Frags +

to any teams, just refuse to scrim his team (and phraktures)

to any teams, just refuse to scrim his team (and phraktures)
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#123
cp_granary_pro
44 Frags +

cut

http://i.imgur.com/CKD5QjO.png

http://i.imgur.com/Urjw64u.png

cut
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CKD5QjO.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Urjw64u.png[/img]
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#124
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FzeroPossimpibleDidn't he stream yesterday? And joined VAC protected server? Plus, valve wipes backpacks for tf2 VAC bans. I thought it's pretty clear from that it wasn't for tf2.
Only people that are friends with him would know if he still has his items or not, since it's private. That is why people asked him to make it public

He had his stuff while streaming yesterday. im just going off that.

[quote=Fzero][quote=Possimpible]Didn't he stream yesterday? And joined VAC protected server? Plus, valve wipes backpacks for tf2 VAC bans. I thought it's pretty clear from that it wasn't for tf2.[/quote]

Only people that are friends with him would know if he still has his items or not, since it's private. That is why people asked him to make it public[/quote]

He had his stuff while streaming yesterday. im just going off that.
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#125
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insom still has all his (my) items. We were just as surprised as he was when we saw that the vac ban only applied to csgo's updated source engine.

insom still has all his (my) items. We were just as surprised as he was when we saw that the vac ban only applied to csgo's updated source engine.
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#126
10 Frags +

Insom out, FanofAngels in???

Insom out, FanofAngels in???
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#127
8 Frags +
Daggercut
http://i.imgur.com/CKD5QjO.png
http://i.imgur.com/Urjw64u.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiy9YB1coMw

[quote=Dagger]cut
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CKD5QjO.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Urjw64u.png[/img][/quote]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiy9YB1coMw[/youtube]
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#128
0 Frags +

this thread is juicy

this thread is juicy
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#129
4 Frags +

i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me

i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me
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#130
21 Frags +
harvesti feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me

lol you don't fee bad. enjoy the +frags, kid.

[quote=harvest]i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me[/quote]

lol you don't fee bad. enjoy the +frags, kid.
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#131
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thrasherBenkEvery time I open this thread and see a post about who got the most +frags ever instead of something about insom i am thoroughly fucking disappointed.
Good point. Back on topic with a serious question... Will ESEA be taking action against AG by overturning matches if it turns out that insom did in fact hack?

If insom is banned and chilluminati's matches are overturned, then the same thing should happen to phrakture and WELOVEANIME.

No Exceptions.

But in reality, we all know nothing will happen either way.

[quote=thrasher][quote=Benk]Every time I open this thread and see a post about who got the most +frags ever instead of something about insom i am thoroughly fucking disappointed.[/quote]


Good point. Back on topic with a serious question... Will ESEA be taking action against AG by overturning matches if it turns out that insom did in fact hack?[/quote]
If insom is banned and chilluminati's matches are overturned, then the same thing should happen to phrakture and WELOVEANIME.

No Exceptions.

But in reality, we all know nothing will happen either way.
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#132
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MR_SLINCan't trust anybody these days...

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wblk.com/files/2013/08/tumblr_moadto4bAo1qbh0eio1_500.gif

[quote=MR_SLIN]Can't trust anybody these days...[/quote]

[img]http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wblk.com/files/2013/08/tumblr_moadto4bAo1qbh0eio1_500.gif[/img]
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#133
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harvesti feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me

You're not sorry.

[quote=harvest]i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me[/quote]
You're not sorry.
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#134
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PHRAKTURE_ALT_54harvesti feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt meYou're not sorry.

yes i do feel bad. i didnt want to get him cut, i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.

[quote=PHRAKTURE_ALT_54][quote=harvest]i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me[/quote]
You're not sorry.[/quote]
yes i do feel bad. i didnt want to get him cut, i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.
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#135
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harvesti wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.

How did you know it was hacking in another game before making this thread?

[quote=harvest]i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.[/quote]
How did you know it was hacking in another game before making this thread?
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#136
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57R4c3harvesti wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.How did you know it was hacking in another game before making this thread?

i just assumed, i've seen him play and it didnt seem like hacking as far as i could tell

[quote=57R4c3][quote=harvest]i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.[/quote]
How did you know it was hacking in another game before making this thread?[/quote]
i just assumed, i've seen him play and it didnt seem like hacking as far as i could tell
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#137
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Too late. Honestly, it was only a matter of time.

Too late. Honestly, it was only a matter of time.
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#138
4 Frags +
harvestPHRAKTURE_ALT_54harvesti feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt meYou're not sorry.yes i do feel bad. i didnt want to get him cut, i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.

how about realize either way you made this thread after it was already brought up in the im happenings thread so it would've happened regardless lol

[quote=harvest][quote=PHRAKTURE_ALT_54][quote=harvest]i feel bad now i am so sorry dont hurt me[/quote]
You're not sorry.[/quote]
yes i do feel bad. i didnt want to get him cut, i wasnt expecting hacking in another game would get someone cut from their own team.[/quote]

how about realize either way you made this thread after it was already brought up in the im happenings thread so it would've happened regardless lol
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#139
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edit: me being dumb

edit: me being dumb
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#140
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thrasherI personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.

This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.

Also for those of you saying "insom is bad"

seanbslydownpourplayed against him quite a few times
dont think he hacked in tf2
\o/
lol there seriously is NO way he hacked in tf2

no1 can be that bad

Clearly you didn't see him season 13/14 when he was on scout. http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3392865

[quote=thrasher]
I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.
[/quote]

This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.

Also for those of you saying [b]"insom is bad"[/b]
[quote=seanbsly][quote=downpour]played against him quite a few times
dont think he hacked in tf2
\o/[/quote]
lol there seriously is NO way he hacked in tf2

no1 can be that bad[/quote]

Clearly you didn't see him season 13/14 when he was on scout. http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3392865
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#141
-16 Frags +
whe cheated in plants vs zombies RIP

for you guys that are new here, this is a vhalin reference.

you're welcome.

[quote=w]he cheated in plants vs zombies RIP[/quote]


for you guys that are new here, this is a vhalin reference.

you're welcome.
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#142
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dflameThis is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.

he literally just played at lan like a month ago (on scout nonetheless), has been streaming for ages, and everybody who knew him knew he hacked in csgo like a week before he got vac banned so it was hardly a surprise; combine that with the fact that all of the hacks that are going to keep you from getting vac banned work across all of the source games anyways and the entire premise that he could get away with hacking in tf2 but get caught in csgo makes no sense. I'm sure that if you go watch demos with wireframes on and the mindset that he's hacking you could dig up some fishy looking clips, but you can do that with just about anyone - you and thrasher are literally the only two people who keep pressing the opinion that he hacked in tf2, and it's just making you look like bitter children.

[quote=dflame]This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something. [/quote]

he literally just played at lan like a month ago (on scout nonetheless), has been streaming for ages, and everybody who knew him knew he hacked in csgo like a week before he got vac banned so it was hardly a surprise; combine that with the fact that all of the hacks that are going to keep you from getting vac banned work across all of the source games anyways and the entire premise that he could get away with hacking in tf2 but get caught in csgo makes no sense. I'm sure that if you go watch demos with wireframes on and the mindset that he's hacking you could dig up some fishy looking clips, but you can do that with just about anyone - you and thrasher are literally the only two people who keep pressing the opinion that he hacked in tf2, and it's just making you look like bitter children.
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#143
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blackdiamondbr0whe cheated in plants vs zombies RIP
for you guys that are new here, this is a vhalin reference.

you're welcome.

pm me if you don't get it

[quote=blackdiamondbr0][quote=w]he cheated in plants vs zombies RIP[/quote]


for you guys that are new here, this is a vhalin reference.

you're welcome.[/quote]

pm me if you don't get it
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#144
-5 Frags +
conductordflameThis is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.
he literally just played at lan like a month ago (on scout nonetheless), has been streaming for ages, and everybody who knew him knew he hacked in csgo like a week before he got vac banned so it was hardly a surprise; combine that with the fact that all of the hacks that are going to keep you from getting vac banned work across all of the source games anyways and the entire premise that he could get away with hacking in tf2 but get caught in csgo makes no sense. I'm sure that if you go watch demos with wireframes on and the mindset that he's hacking you could dig up some fishy looking clips, but you can do that with just about anyone - you and thrasher are literally the only two people who keep pressing the opinion that he hacked in tf2, and it's just making you look like bitter children.

I wasn't aware that he went to a LAN and also did he do well at the LAN? And as far as streaming goes... every time I have watched his stream he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.

[quote=conductor][quote=dflame]This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something. [/quote]

he literally just played at lan like a month ago (on scout nonetheless), has been streaming for ages, and everybody who knew him knew he hacked in csgo like a week before he got vac banned so it was hardly a surprise; combine that with the fact that all of the hacks that are going to keep you from getting vac banned work across all of the source games anyways and the entire premise that he could get away with hacking in tf2 but get caught in csgo makes no sense. I'm sure that if you go watch demos with wireframes on and the mindset that he's hacking you could dig up some fishy looking clips, but you can do that with just about anyone - you and thrasher are literally the only two people who keep pressing the opinion that he hacked in tf2, and it's just making you look like bitter children.[/quote]
I wasn't aware that he went to a LAN and also did he do well at the LAN? And as far as streaming goes... every time I have watched his stream he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.
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#145
-2 Frags +
thrasherXanI know it seems like you are being altruistic and/or a good guy but you're not. It seems like a thinly veiled version of a kid jumping up and down screaming "HE CHEATED HE CHEATED. THAT MEANS I WIN" over a single game. It was likely from the beginning that no ESEA action would be taken. It seems clear that he wasn't banned as a result of cheating in Tf2
Well that's your opinion, however that's not what I was getting at. I truly like all the AG guys, and any time we play them it's a fun (usually close) game. Yes, they beat us 5-4 this season but they also beat 7 other teams who may also be curious about what's up with insom. Apparently his VAC ban wasn't for TF2, but based on the reactions in both threads a lot of people seemed to think that prior to this debacle that he maybe had been cheating. I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.

Even if I was to watch an STV and found proof he was walling in our match and they overturned it, it really changes nothing in the long run. It would change a pretty meaningless stat and we would still have to play each other again in the playoffs and the better team would win. I'm not looking for handouts, or shortcuts. I want to earn wins not complain to get them after a loss. That's not how I am, it never has been. I was really just asking an honest question to get the thread back on topic.
dflamethrasherI personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.
This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.

Also for those of you saying "insom is bad"seanbslydownpourplayed against him quite a few times
dont think he hacked in tf2
\o/
lol there seriously is NO way he hacked in tf2

no1 can be that bad

Clearly you didn't see him season 13/14 when he was on scout. http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3392865

hahahhahaha you guys really think he cheated in tf2?
jesus christ find some proof, or let it go

[quote=thrasher][quote=Xan]I know it seems like you are being altruistic and/or a good guy but you're not. It seems like a thinly veiled version of a kid jumping up and down screaming "HE CHEATED HE CHEATED. THAT MEANS I WIN" over a single game. It was likely from the beginning that no ESEA action would be taken. It seems clear that he wasn't banned as a result of cheating in Tf2[/quote]

Well that's your opinion, however that's not what I was getting at. I truly like all the AG guys, and any time we play them it's a fun (usually close) game. Yes, they beat us 5-4 this season but they also beat 7 other teams who may also be curious about what's up with insom. Apparently his VAC ban wasn't for TF2, but based on the reactions in both threads a lot of people seemed to think that prior to this debacle that he maybe had been cheating. I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.

Even if I was to watch an STV and found proof he was walling in our match and they overturned it, it really changes nothing in the long run. It would change a pretty meaningless stat and we would still have to play each other again in the playoffs and the better team would win. I'm not looking for handouts, or shortcuts. I want to earn wins not complain to get them after a loss. That's not how I am, it never has been. I was really just asking an honest question to get the thread back on topic.[/quote]
[quote=dflame][quote=thrasher]
I personally feel that if someone has the desire to cheat at one game, they may do the same for another. Just because he got VACd for another game doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't cheating in TF2 and just wasn't caught. It also doesn't mean that he's not 100% legit.
[/quote]

This is completely true. Just because he wasn't vac'd in TF2 doesn't mean that he does hack in TF2. And the fact that he decided to hack in CSGO makes it a bigger possibility. I've always thought insom was very fishy (since s13 open) but maybe he is just lucky or something.

Also for those of you saying [b]"insom is bad"[/b]
[quote=seanbsly][quote=downpour]played against him quite a few times
dont think he hacked in tf2
\o/[/quote]
lol there seriously is NO way he hacked in tf2

no1 can be that bad[/quote]

Clearly you didn't see him season 13/14 when he was on scout. http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3392865[/quote]

hahahhahaha you guys really think he cheated in tf2?
jesus christ find some proof, or let it go
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#146
3 Frags +

i knew my boy xep aka pex aka LOGJAMMIN alumnus would do the right thing

i knew my boy xep aka pex aka LOGJAMMIN alumnus would do the right thing
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#147
5 Frags +
dflame-snip-
I wasn't aware that he went to a LAN and also did he do well at the LAN? And as far as streaming goes... every time I have watched his stream he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.

I went there with him, along with half of AG/6 cuties...https://secure.flickr.com/photos/lanfest/10470797464/in/set-72157636925960605

I look fucking retarded in that picture LOL

[quote=dflame]-snip-
I wasn't aware that he went to a LAN and also did he do well at the LAN? And as far as streaming goes... every time I have watched his stream he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.[/quote]

I went there with him, along with half of AG/6 cuties...https://secure.flickr.com/photos/lanfest/10470797464/in/set-72157636925960605

I look fucking retarded in that picture LOL
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#148
2 Frags +

which one is he

which one is he
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#149
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heerowhich one is he

2nd from the left
lookin phresh

[quote=heero]which one is he[/quote]
2nd from the left
lookin phresh
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#150
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he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.

I'm pretty sure around 30% accuracy is average for a lot of things.

[quote]he seems to miss like 75% of his shots and does sub par.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure around 30% accuracy is average for a lot of things.
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