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5-0 while captain in pugna
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Edit: the real topic im trying to get across is how people are getting crestricted over 5-0 games while games arent starting and important classes are leaving. I have personally seen aristotle and them crestrict people over a single 5-0 game. although ive had like 3 or 4 and have never been caught so maybe i should nut^ more but still the rules arent working well because people are scared shitless of being captain.

i have 381 games played. in pugna i pretty much only captain when i know the people there so that my games dont have a chance of getting 5-0s. but what often happens is nobody captains and the game doesnt get played for as long as an hour. i witnessed several pugs die(everyone left after 2 medics were added up).
let me play captain so the game gets played and i get better at captain.

Edit: the real topic im trying to get across is how people are getting crestricted over 5-0 games while games arent starting and important classes are leaving. I have personally seen aristotle and them crestrict people over a single 5-0 game. although ive had like 3 or 4 and have never been caught so maybe i should nut^ more but still the rules arent working well because people are scared shitless of being captain.

i have 381 games played. in pugna i pretty much only captain when i know the people there so that my games dont have a chance of getting 5-0s. but what often happens is nobody captains and the game doesnt get played for as long as an hour. i witnessed several pugs die(everyone left after 2 medics were added up).
let me play captain so the game gets played and i get better at captain.
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#2
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what

what
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#3
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tf.tv is now mydiary.tv

tf.tv is now mydiary.tv
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#4
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dear diary: today a man on the internet did a rude thing and I want them dead

dear diary: today a man on the internet did a rude thing and I want them dead
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#5
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what are the restrictions for captaining?

what are the restrictions for captaining?
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#6
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40 pugs to add up as captain is it

40 pugs to add up as captain is it
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#7
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aside from the problems with gamesurge where i am never authd and cant captain 40 games is pretty reasonable. The real problem is that people dont want to captain, not the limit.

aside from the problems with gamesurge where i am never authd and cant captain 40 games is pretty reasonable. The real problem is that people dont want to captain, not the limit.
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#8
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the main problem is that 40 pugs is nowhere near enough to know everyone, it's just enough to keep people from making alts to captain 5-0 rolls

the main problem is that 40 pugs is nowhere near enough to know everyone, it's just enough to keep people from making alts to captain 5-0 rolls
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milehighmilitiaaside from the problems with gamesurge where i am never authd and cant captain 40 games is pretty reasonable. The real problem is that people dont want to captain, not the limit.

i think that the people added up in that pug i was added up in 40 min ago did know the players and couldve captained but didnt. thats more the broader issue but i'd be glad to captain if they would losen up on restricting. I'm going to try to captain more and just face some restriction if i ever really want to play tf2 and that kind of thing happens.

[quote=milehighmilitia]aside from the problems with gamesurge where i am never authd and cant captain 40 games is pretty reasonable. The real problem is that people dont want to captain, not the limit.[/quote]
i think that the people added up in that pug i was added up in 40 min ago did know the players and couldve captained but didnt. thats more the broader issue but i'd be glad to captain if they would losen up on restricting. I'm going to try to captain more and just face some restriction if i ever really want to play tf2 and that kind of thing happens.
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#10
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i fucking love you stig

i fucking love you stig
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#11
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I don't understand. Does he want people to step up and actually captain? Or is he complaining about himself not being good enough at captain?

Because if he has 381 games, the only way he'd not let be captain if there were more than two captains that shoved him aside, but then he talks about there not being enough captains for so long that the medics are leaving.

???

I don't understand. Does he want people to step up and actually captain? Or is he complaining about himself not being good enough at captain?

Because if he has 381 games, the only way he'd not let be captain if there were more than two captains that shoved him aside, but then he talks about there not being enough captains for so long that the medics are leaving.

???
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SnowyI don't understand. Does he want people to step up and actually captain? Or is he complaining about himself not being good enough at captain?

Because if he has 381 games, the only way he'd not let be captain if there were more than two captains that shoved him aside, but then he talks about there not being enough captains for so long that the medics are leaving.

???

there is a rule that if u captain a 5-0 u get crestricted. so i want them to loosen up and create a system that doesnt get stuck at 90% (2 meds 14 people added and 0 captains)
Edit: i didnt captain up because i didnt know the people. and the meds left because nobody wanted to captain

[quote=Snowy]I don't understand. Does he want people to step up and actually captain? Or is he complaining about himself not being good enough at captain?

Because if he has 381 games, the only way he'd not let be captain if there were more than two captains that shoved him aside, but then he talks about there not being enough captains for so long that the medics are leaving.

???[/quote]
there is a rule that if u captain a 5-0 u get crestricted. so i want them to loosen up and create a system that doesnt get stuck at 90% (2 meds 14 people added and 0 captains)
Edit: i didnt captain up because i didnt know the people. and the meds left because nobody wanted to captain
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#13
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If after all class requirements are met, and 5 minutes have elapsed, the bot will automatically pick people to Captain if there are none?

If that were to happen, I'd like to see the bot try and pick 2 people to captain from the same role (ie Demo's or Medic's).

Just le thought.

If after all class requirements are met, and 5 minutes have elapsed, the bot will automatically pick people to Captain if there are none?

If that were to happen, I'd like to see the bot try and pick 2 people to captain from the same role (ie Demo's or Medic's).

Just le thought.
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#14
10 Frags +

as someone with probably the highest captain % in pugna, I dont know why people are so afraid of it

easy rules for pugna captaining:

1) pick the scouts you remember being good in mge
2) there is no step 2

as someone with probably the highest captain % in pugna, I dont know why people are so afraid of it

easy rules for pugna captaining:

1) pick the scouts you remember being good in mge
2) there is no step 2
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#15
3 Frags +

I just switched the amount of games required to captain back to 30.

I just switched the amount of games required to captain back to 30.
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#16
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I've captained and gotten 5-0'd before, but I've never been crestricted (to my knowledge).

I've captained and gotten 5-0'd before, but I've never been crestricted (to my knowledge).
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#17
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there should be an option to c-restrict yourself. I've picked some terrible pugs in the past :P

there should be an option to c-restrict yourself. I've picked some terrible pugs in the past :P
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#18
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now im playing tf2mix

no one is twisting your arm to play

[quote]now im playing tf2mix[/quote]

no one is twisting your arm to play
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#19
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There have been times when I boot up irc, go to the channel, and see ~16 people added up. Only one of them is added as medic, and no one is captain. Then I'll type in chat "I'll be the 2nd Med if somebody goes captain" and not a single person will budge. Maybe they just aren't reading the chat, but it's a testament to how captain-phobic people are. I can admit that I hate being captain.

There have been times when I boot up irc, go to the channel, and see ~16 people added up. Only one of them is added as medic, and no one is captain. Then I'll type in chat "I'll be the 2nd Med if somebody goes captain" and not a single person will budge. Maybe they just aren't reading the chat, but it's a testament to how captain-phobic people are. I can admit that I hate being captain.
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#20
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Well, thats cool.

Well, thats cool.
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#21
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What if everybody added in pug.na joined the mumble before the match? Maybe have a "Added Up" channel. It's a lot easier to talk about stuff then type/read it in IRC and it might help captains pick by asking more experienced people their opinions.

What if everybody added in pug.na joined the mumble before the match? Maybe have a "Added Up" channel. It's a lot easier to talk about stuff then type/read it in IRC and it might help captains pick by asking more experienced people their opinions.
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I don't really see the problem here, if there are 16 people wanting to pug and all 16 people are fine with not playing until someone else captains, why bother them? if they're cool with waiting let them wait.
the amount of 30 games required to captain is ok too, if someone really wants to captain so bad I'm sure he can be patient enough as to play the 30 games until he starts adding as captain.

I don't really see the problem here, if there are 16 people wanting to pug and all 16 people are fine with not playing until someone else captains, why bother them? if they're cool with waiting let them wait.
the amount of 30 games required to captain is ok too, if someone really wants to captain so bad I'm sure he can be patient enough as to play the 30 games until he starts adding as captain.
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defynow im playing tf2mix
no one is twisting your arm to play

i don't see how you get that impression that's literally what i was doing because i wanted to play some 6s tf2 where everyone stays and the game ends with 12 people.

alfunksoI don't really see the problem here, if there are 16 people wanting to pug and all 16 people are fine with not playing until someone else captains, why bother them? if they're cool with waiting let them wait.
the amount of 30 games required to captain is ok too, if someone really wants to captain so bad I'm sure he can be patient enough as to play the 30 games until he starts adding as captain.

i was never talking about the minimum number of games required to play captain. people dont want to wait, the important classes are leaving (medics) because nobody is adding up as captain. id like to volunteer and captain when i dont know the people and everyone else is too pussy to captain.(someone added likely is capable of captaining well)But i dont because there are rules that could get me crestricted if it doesn't go well. im trying to make this thread about making the rules looser on being restricted as captain for 1 or 2 shit games.

[quote=defy][quote]now im playing tf2mix[/quote]

no one is twisting your arm to play[/quote]
i don't see how you get that impression that's literally what i was doing because i wanted to play some 6s tf2 where everyone stays and the game ends with 12 people.

[quote=alfunkso]I don't really see the problem here, if there are 16 people wanting to pug and all 16 people are fine with not playing until someone else captains, why bother them? if they're cool with waiting let them wait.
the amount of 30 games required to captain is ok too, if someone really wants to captain so bad I'm sure he can be patient enough as to play the 30 games until he starts adding as captain.[/quote]

i was never talking about the minimum number of games required to play captain. people dont want to wait, the important classes are leaving (medics) because nobody is adding up as captain. id like to volunteer and captain when i dont know the people and everyone else is too pussy to captain.(someone added likely is capable of captaining well)But i dont because there are rules that could get me crestricted if it doesn't go well. im trying to make this thread about making the rules looser on being restricted as captain for 1 or 2 shit games.
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