Hi, some of you may recognise me as the creator of Mannbase, well I am working on a new map.
Cp_soursob is a 5cp 6s map set in an Australian suburban industrial district, under a bridge, bordering a nature reserve. It features unique areas and interesting height differences to separate it from the rest. It has been described as "cool" and "better than your other maps" by my friends. I like reckoner, sultry, metalworks, gullywash and tf2 and I think it shows.
Most of the map is still using dev textures, ready and waiting to be pulled and prodded. Visual/texture bugs are to be expected, please keep feedback related to gameplay or layout unless those bugs affect gameplay.
Latest version: cp_soursob_a10
TF2Maps+Screenshots
Rollouts
What is a soursob?
https://i.imgur.com/RL2Ojn7.jpeg
If anyone is into graffiti and wants their artwork displayed on the map, hit me up.
Hi, some of you may recognise me as the creator of [url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/mannbase.8807/]Mannbase[/url], well I am working on a new map.
Cp_soursob is a 5cp 6s map set in an Australian suburban industrial district, under a bridge, bordering a nature reserve. It features unique areas and interesting height differences to separate it from the rest. It has been described as "cool" and "better than your other maps" by my friends. I like reckoner, sultry, metalworks, gullywash and tf2 and I think it shows.
Most of the map is still using dev textures, ready and waiting to be pulled and prodded. Visual/texture bugs are to be expected, please keep feedback related to gameplay or layout unless those bugs affect gameplay.
[b][url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/soursob.20503/download]Latest version: cp_soursob_a10[/url]
[url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/soursob.20503/]TF2Maps+Screenshots[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPd_Nav0O_I]Rollouts[/url]
[url=https://weeds.org.au/profiles/soursob-bermuda-buttercup/]What is a soursob?[/url][/b]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/RL2Ojn7.jpeg[/img]
[b]If anyone is into graffiti and wants their artwork displayed on the map, hit me up.[/b]
Why do TF2 maps have so weird naming, how come there's no cp_chair or koth_egg
Btw, really nice map, looking forward to play a game on it
Why do TF2 maps have so weird naming, how come there's no cp_chair or koth_egg
Btw, really nice map, looking forward to play a game on it
Authorised by the Australian Government, Canberra.
Authorised by the Australian Government, Canberra.
malyWhy do TF2 maps have so weird naming, how come there's no cp_chair or koth_egg
Btw, really nice map, looking forward to play a game on it
brother there is literally koth_bagel
[quote=maly]Why do TF2 maps have so weird naming, how come there's no cp_chair or koth_egg
Btw, really nice map, looking forward to play a game on it[/quote]
brother there is literally koth_bagel
a9 - Gameplay/Refinement
Hi all, thanks to everyone that downloaded the map. (Nearly 50 downloads!)
I am currently looking for moderately skilled teams (don't have to be prem/invite) that would be happy to test the map. I'd like to avoid pug testing and focus on scrims for consistency sake. If the map looks interesting and you have friends that like to play video games, reach out!
The name Soursob was initially a placeholder, but it stuck. I also considered: Sourgrass, Avenue, Streamline, Underpass and Overpass (lol). I am still open to changing it and I'll take ideas.
Changes:
- Added a ledge to help players jump to the health pack on last.
- Removed large construction light prop from forwards.
- Spawns are closer to shutters to help stop beam disconnecting from demo on rollout.
- Moved ramp by choke forward to help players using it to slide on rollout.
- Lobby pack is now medium, as the previous update moved the pack on second further from lobby.
- Elbow mini pack is now moved to balcony. (mid)
- New window in spawn.
- Removed perch on second.
- Removed clipping on light-posts
- Blocked off OOB sight-line on last.
- Cleaned up clipping and geometry across the map.
- Cleaned up rough terrain.
- Removed some obnoxious detailing.
- Added some lovely detailing.
- Reworked lighting across the map.
I lost my notes as I just did a clean install of my os so I'm probably forgetting some things.
[b][url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/soursob.20503/updates#resource-update-61039]a9 - Gameplay/Refinement[/url][/b]
Hi all, thanks to everyone that downloaded the map. (Nearly 50 downloads!)
I am currently looking for moderately skilled teams (don't have to be prem/invite) that would be happy to test the map. I'd like to avoid pug testing and focus on scrims for consistency sake. If the map looks interesting and you have friends that like to play video games, reach out!
The name Soursob was initially a placeholder, but it stuck. I also considered: Sourgrass, Avenue, Streamline, Underpass and Overpass (lol). I am still open to changing it and I'll take ideas.
[b]Changes:[/b]
- Added a ledge to help players jump to the health pack on last.
- Removed large construction light prop from forwards.
- Spawns are closer to shutters to help stop beam disconnecting from demo on rollout.
- Moved ramp by choke forward to help players using it to slide on rollout.
- Lobby pack is now medium, as the previous update moved the pack on second further from lobby.
- Elbow mini pack is now moved to balcony. (mid)
- New window in spawn.
- Removed perch on second.
- Removed clipping on light-posts
- Blocked off OOB sight-line on last.
- Cleaned up clipping and geometry across the map.
- Cleaned up rough terrain.
- Removed some obnoxious detailing.
- Added some lovely detailing.
- Reworked lighting across the map.
I lost my notes as I just did a clean install of my os so I'm probably forgetting some things.
map looks sick but damn it is giant 0_0
map looks sick but damn it is giant 0_0
flatulencemap looks sick but damn it is giant 0_0
Thanks for the feedback. You are not the only person that has said this.
Are there any areas specifically that feel too big? Are the doorways too tall? Are the ceilings too tall? Does it take too long to get to places? Do you feel like fights happen at too long a range? Rollout too long? Distance from last to mid?
I want to address this but I need a bit more information.
For the sake of the discussion, this is a size comparison between Reckoner, Granary and Soursob in hammer (with most OOB areas removed). The pocket rollout is roughly the same as Granary's
You are right that its quite large, but I am trying to decide whether the size is causing gameplay issues or whether it simply feels large.
https://i.imgur.com/jRFMnLo.png
[quote=flatulence]map looks sick but damn it is giant 0_0[/quote]
Thanks for the feedback. You are not the only person that has said this.
Are there any areas specifically that feel too big? Are the doorways too tall? Are the ceilings too tall? Does it take too long to get to places? Do you feel like fights happen at too long a range? Rollout too long? Distance from last to mid?
I want to address this but I need a bit more information.
For the sake of the discussion, this is a size comparison between Reckoner, Granary and Soursob in hammer (with most OOB areas removed). The pocket rollout is roughly the same as Granary's
You are right that its quite large, but I am trying to decide whether the size is causing gameplay issues or whether it simply feels large.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jRFMnLo.png[/img]
a10 - Major changes
Cheers everyone for the feedback.
This update sees major changes to last, mid and some other bits.
If anyone is into graffiti and wants their artwork displayed on the map, hit me up.
Changes
- Reworked choke/mid lobby.
- Secret on last has been shortened.
- New hallway on last.
- Moved catwalk on last forward.
- New perch on second.
- Moved lobby pack to assist pushing out of last.
- Lowered walls on last to give scouts more highground.
- Added cover on second+last to nerf sightlines.
- Under mid now has two small health packs and one med ammo pack.
- Moved ramp on mid to allow for slightly faster flanks.
- Made ramp on last flush.
- Heightened shed on second.
- Some ramps have a gentler angle.
- Opened up roof above balcony on second.
- Cleaned up some details.
- Texturing/Detailing (still mostly dev textures)
Did a quick edit of some rollouts. They aren't the best but give you an idea of what a better jumper might be able to do.
[b][url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/soursob.20503/updates#resource-update-61136]a10 - Major changes[/url][/b]
Cheers everyone for the feedback.
This update sees major changes to last, mid and some other bits.
If anyone is into graffiti and wants their artwork displayed on the map, hit me up.
[b]Changes[/b]
- Reworked choke/mid lobby.
- Secret on last has been shortened.
- New hallway on last.
- Moved catwalk on last forward.
- New perch on second.
- Moved lobby pack to assist pushing out of last.
- Lowered walls on last to give scouts more highground.
- Added cover on second+last to nerf sightlines.
- Under mid now has two small health packs and one med ammo pack.
- Moved ramp on mid to allow for slightly faster flanks.
- Made ramp on last flush.
- Heightened shed on second.
- Some ramps have a gentler angle.
- Opened up roof above balcony on second.
- Cleaned up some details.
- Texturing/Detailing (still mostly dev textures)
Did a quick edit of some [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPd_Nav0O_I]rollouts[/url]. They aren't the best but give you an idea of what a better jumper might be able to do.
a11 - Valley rework + Small bits
I was aware valley felt awkward but I couldn't figure out where I wanted to go with it till now.
Changes
- Valley has been reworked. It is now shorter and curvier with new geometry and detailing.
- Small changes to gameplay on last.
- Minor texturing and clipping edits.
Still looking for playtesters/artists.
[b][url=https://tf2maps.net/downloads/soursob.20503/updates#resource-update-61220]a11 - Valley rework + Small bits[/url][/b]
I was aware valley felt awkward but I couldn't figure out where I wanted to go with it till now.
[b]Changes[/b]
- Valley has been reworked. It is now shorter and curvier with new geometry and detailing.
- Small changes to gameplay on last.
- Minor texturing and clipping edits.
Still looking for playtesters/artists.
Map looks cool. My main complaint in each iteration I've seen is scale. Just feels like u take fall damage from everywhere.
Map looks cool. My main complaint in each iteration I've seen is scale. Just feels like u take fall damage from everywhere.
flickMap looks cool. My main complaint in each iteration I've seen is scale. Just feels like u take fall damage from everywhere.
Yeah you're right, thanks for pointing that out, it had actually not crossed my mind. Will fix this.
[quote=flick]Map looks cool. My main complaint in each iteration I've seen is scale. Just feels like u take fall damage from everywhere.[/quote]
Yeah you're right, thanks for pointing that out, it had actually not crossed my mind. Will fix this.