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Twitch & Music
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#31
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time to find somewhere else to stream?

Seems shitty to bother streaming on a site that's going to shut you down for listening to your own music while you scrim/whatever. Life isn't worth living without Melissa Kaplan's voice in the background.

time to find somewhere else to stream?

Seems shitty to bother streaming on a site that's going to shut you down for listening to your own music while you scrim/whatever. Life isn't worth living without Melissa Kaplan's voice in the background.
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#32
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Might be what I have to do, I don't know if I'd enjoy playing without music.

I guess there's probably a way that my spotify/pandora/itunes/last.fm doesn't play on the stream, but i can still hear it.

Might be what I have to do, I don't know if I'd enjoy playing without music.

I guess there's probably a way that my spotify/pandora/itunes/last.fm doesn't play on the stream, but i can still hear it.
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#33
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Virual Audio Cable may work.

Virual Audio Cable may work.
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#34
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I'm still curious as to how they plan on enforcing this. I could see them paying much closer attention to the big name streamers and partners, but how likely is it that a streamer who gets an average of 5 viewers will get shut down for playing music?

I'm still curious as to how they plan on enforcing this. I could see them paying much closer attention to the big name streamers and partners, but how likely is it that a streamer who gets an average of 5 viewers will get shut down for playing music?
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#35
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vanillaI'm still curious as to how they plan on enforcing this. I could see them paying much closer attention to the big name streamers and partners, but how likely is it that a streamer who gets an average of 5 viewers will get shut down for playing music?

I feel like it would be only applicable to partners?

[quote=vanilla]I'm still curious as to how they plan on enforcing this. I could see them paying much closer attention to the big name streamers and partners, but how likely is it that a streamer who gets an average of 5 viewers will get shut down for playing music?[/quote]

I feel like it would be only applicable to partners?
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#36
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some of these comments are pretty retarded

Garrett Bullock ‏@gbSTATUS 4h
Wow. Bad call, Twitch. “@SirScoots: Commercial music while allowed to be played at the moment will be banned from TwitchTV streams shortly"
Garrett Bullock ‏@gbSTATUS 3h
@SirScoots I mean, if anything, it's free advertisement for the artist. Caster plays music, viewers enjoy music, viewers possibly buy.
Kieran Clark ‏@KClarkSC2 4h
@SirScoots @TobiWanDOTA that's easy enough, but what about policing non partnered streams? I guess they don't matter as much though

really?

my brain hurts

some of these comments are pretty retarded

[quote]Garrett Bullock ‏@gbSTATUS 4h
Wow. Bad call, Twitch. “@SirScoots: Commercial music while allowed to be played at the moment will be banned from TwitchTV streams shortly"[/quote]


[quote]Garrett Bullock ‏@gbSTATUS 3h
@SirScoots I mean, if anything, it's free advertisement for the artist. Caster plays music, viewers enjoy music, viewers possibly buy.[/quote]


[quote]Kieran Clark ‏@KClarkSC2 4h
@SirScoots @TobiWanDOTA that's easy enough, but what about policing non partnered streams? I guess they don't matter as much though[/quote]

really?

my brain hurts
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#37
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well Twitch is down ATM... is it happening?

well Twitch is down ATM... is it happening?
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#38
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There's a Starcraft player that routes his music through Virtual Audio Cable and just gives sound and voice to the stream. Maybe a guide on how do to that can be written?

Although I'd imagine this won't be policed well for smaller channels, not sure how they would do it without a YouTube like system that checks for Content ID and that'd be complicated with live streaming as compared to just recordings.

There's a Starcraft player that routes his music through Virtual Audio Cable and just gives sound and voice to the stream. Maybe a guide on how do to that can be written?

Although I'd imagine this won't be policed well for smaller channels, not sure how they would do it without a YouTube like system that checks for Content ID and that'd be complicated with live streaming as compared to just recordings.
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#39
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They say think Youtube rules. So basically you just can't be making money off it while using someone else's work (music) to add value. For non-partnered streams it shouldn't be an issue unless they're going to get real draconian. Youtube lets you use most any music on the terms you aren't collecting any profit from it, so I'd expect the same here.

They say think Youtube rules. So basically you just can't be making money off it while using someone else's work (music) to add value. For non-partnered streams it shouldn't be an issue unless they're going to get real draconian. Youtube lets you use most any music on the terms you aren't collecting any profit from it, so I'd expect the same here.
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#40
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what people need to understand: twitch is a business, once you produce and record music and distribute it, it's a business too

when you broadcast music that isn't yours and who ever owns the rights to it sees nothing in return....well that's a problem. yeah its a shitty issue but that's the way it is and there is no in between.

what really gives me a headache is the people who are making comments about twitch in general, when legal issues come into play there is no way of getting around it. so instead of getting bent out of shape about it, just make do. john supports tf2 through and through, and does a hell of a job. so a little support would be nice

what people need to understand: twitch is a business, once you produce and record music and distribute it, it's a business too

when you broadcast music that isn't yours and who ever owns the rights to it sees nothing in return....well that's a problem. yeah its a shitty issue but that's the way it is and there is no in between.

what really gives me a headache is the people who are making comments about twitch in general, when legal issues come into play there is no way of getting around it. so instead of getting bent out of shape about it, just make do. john supports tf2 through and through, and does a hell of a job. so a little support would be nice
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#41
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Oh noes. :/

Oh noes. :/
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#42
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So tl;dr you essentially cannot listen to music while streaming - it has to be muted?

Just clarifying.

So tl;dr you essentially cannot listen to music while streaming - it has to be muted?

Just clarifying.
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#43
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yukiSo tl;dr you essentially cannot listen to music while streaming - it has to be muted?

Just clarifying.

If it's automatic (most likely), quiet enough music is more than likely okay as long as you talk over it (or gameplay is ontop of it).

[quote=yuki]So tl;dr you essentially cannot listen to music while streaming - it has to be muted?

Just clarifying.[/quote]

If it's automatic (most likely), quiet enough music is more than likely okay as long as you talk over it (or gameplay is ontop of it).
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#44
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Yeah my music's generally pretty quiet.

Worst comes to worst I'll mute it on stream (sheep has mumble muted when he streams so meh)

Yeah my music's generally pretty quiet.

Worst comes to worst I'll mute it on stream (sheep has mumble muted when he streams so meh)
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#45
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I was gonna link you guys to Synchtube, but then that's closed too...

I was gonna link you guys to Synchtube, but then that's closed too...
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#46
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mixcloud.com

tons of live sets/good shit to choose from

not saying it wont be copywritten but theres a lot of fun stuff to check out

mixcloud.com

tons of live sets/good shit to choose from

not saying it wont be copywritten but theres a lot of fun stuff to check out
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#47
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Lil B save us

Lil B save us
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#48
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if its the same form of identification as youtube maybe lange and people could get a program to shift the pitch on their stream to avoid detection.

if its the same form of identification as youtube maybe lange and people could get a program to shift the pitch on their stream to avoid detection.
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#49
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jerryjigglerif its the same form of identification as youtube maybe lange and people could get a program to shift the pitch on their stream to avoid detection.

it won't, there's no possible way they can do that especially with all the part reed streams.

[quote=jerryjiggler]if its the same form of identification as youtube maybe lange and people could get a program to shift the pitch on their stream to avoid detection.[/quote]
it won't, there's no possible way they can do that especially with all the part reed streams.
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#50
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And that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.

And that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.
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#51
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MrPoT4tOAnd that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.

Are those places with public domain music? Does anyone know any good spots to get good public domain music?

[quote=MrPoT4tO]And that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.[/quote]

Are those places with public domain music? Does anyone know any good spots to get good public domain music?
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#52
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i guess we can expect indie music on every stream now.

i guess we can expect indie music on every stream now.
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#53
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Lange your internet can't even play music, let alone stream.

Lange your internet can't even play music, let alone stream.
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#54
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vanillaMrPoT4tOAnd that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.
Are those places with public domain music? Does anyone know any good spots to get good public domain music?

From what I read in the terms of use they are royalty-free, which I'm not sure if they are the same thing.

[quote=vanilla][quote=MrPoT4tO]And that's why I listen to my music on earbits or jamendo.[/quote]

Are those places with public domain music? Does anyone know any good spots to get good public domain music?[/quote]

From what I read in the terms of use they are royalty-free, which I'm not sure if they are the same thing.
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#55
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http://i.imgur.com/5rE4dZd.jpg

(this is what the music industry actually believes)

[img]http://i.imgur.com/5rE4dZd.jpg[/img]
(this is what the music industry actually believes)
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#56
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I'll be interested to see what the actual rules are here. It sounds like twitch can't play advertisements before your videos if you stream music from youtube, Pandora, or even a musician's website, which means streamers won't be able to use any of those places to play music.

It seems counter-intuitive, though, to prohibit a streamer from playing music that was posted for promotional purposes. I guess it's all about the advertisements - twitch/partners would be making money off of that music.

I'll be interested to see what the actual rules are here. It sounds like twitch can't play advertisements before your videos if you stream music from youtube, Pandora, or even a musician's website, which means streamers won't be able to use any of those places to play music.

It seems counter-intuitive, though, to prohibit a streamer from playing music that was posted for promotional purposes. I guess it's all about the advertisements - twitch/partners would be making money off of that music.
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#57
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It is free advertising for them...Plenty of people hear music on stream and go buy it on itunes or Amazon or whatever; most people probably download it illegally, but that's obviously irrelevant. No one is sitting there recording twitch streams to get music for their library unless the person streaming has everything but the music muted. That's the only way there would actually be an issue.

I get that music can bring people into your stream and in a way you are profiting off of their content, but I think it also helps the record companies and artists.

It is free advertising for them...Plenty of people hear music on stream and go buy it on itunes or Amazon or whatever; most people probably download it illegally, but that's obviously irrelevant. No one is sitting there recording twitch streams to get music for their library unless the person streaming has everything but the music muted. That's the only way there would actually be an issue.

I get that music can bring people into your stream and in a way you are profiting off of their content, but I think it also helps the record companies and artists.
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#58
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PokemonAdventurehttp://i.imgur.com/5rE4dZd.jpg
(this is what the music industry actually believes)

That's also a no-no in tilting the twitch logo, but since when are they to pay attention to the details? ;)

[quote=PokemonAdventure][img]http://i.imgur.com/5rE4dZd.jpg[/img]
(this is what the music industry actually believes)[/quote]

That's also a no-no in tilting the twitch logo, but since when are they to pay attention to the details? ;)
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#59
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rip Space Channel 5

rip Space Channel 5
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#60
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I've bought music I'd have never otherwise heard because of stabby's, lange's and seanbud's streams. It's almost as important as the game play to me.

I've bought music I'd have never otherwise heard because of stabby's, lange's and seanbud's streams. It's almost as important as the game play to me.
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