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RGL S18 Invite Happenings/Discussion
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Discussion thread for Season 18 of RGL Invite
Congrats to last season's winners, froyotech!

League Table
Division Admin: Plinko
Division Mod: je'mond

You can view last season's Invite discussion thread here.

Discussion thread for Season 18 of RGL Invite
Congrats to last season's winners, froyotech!

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/LeagueTable?g=1043&s=164&r=40]League Table[/url]
Division Admin: [url=https://discordapp.com/users/374366222009237504]Plinko[/url]
Division Mod: [url=https://discordapp.com/users/162780127028183041]je'mond[/url]

You can view last season's Invite discussion thread [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/65244]here[/url].
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Update for RGL Sixes Season 18 Invite:

We are extending the registration deadline for the Invite division only until Wednesday, May 28th in order to give more time to players involved in the PFD LAN to fill out rosters and prepare for the Summer RGL Season + RGL Philly LAN in July.

The Invite Season will be shortened to five weeks to allow completion of matches in plenty of time for teams to plan for LAN.

This season, Invite Qualifiers will be held, with four teams competing for spots in Invite. The teams wining placements in Invite will secure spots regardless of additional teams registering through the deadline.
Teams interested in participating in Qualifiers should reach out to Plinko or Kitty as soon as possible.

Teams must have either created an Invite roster on the RGL site or confirmed to Kitty/Plinko/Je'Mond of their intended plans before the extended deadline.
Revised timelines for S18 Sixes Invite will be as follows:
Qualifier Teams Announced: Sunday, May 11th
Invite Qualifiers: May 13-16 (exact dates and times TBD)
Invite Registration Closes: 11:59PM EDT Wednesday, May 28
Division Payments Due: Sunday, June 1 (must have 5 rostered and paid)
Matches Posted: Sunday, June 1
1st Default Match date: Tuesday, June 3
Last Day to Reschedule Regular Season Matches: Tuesday, July 2
Invite Playoffs at RGL Philly LAN: July 18-20

Other division deadlines and schedules will not be affected.

Update for RGL Sixes Season 18 Invite:

We are extending the registration deadline for the Invite division only until Wednesday, May 28th in order to give more time to players involved in the PFD LAN to fill out rosters and prepare for the Summer RGL Season + RGL Philly LAN in July.

The Invite Season will be shortened to five weeks to allow completion of matches in plenty of time for teams to plan for LAN.

This season, Invite Qualifiers will be held, with four teams competing for spots in Invite. The teams wining placements in Invite will secure spots regardless of additional teams registering through the deadline.
Teams interested in participating in Qualifiers should reach out to Plinko or Kitty as soon as possible.

Teams must have either created an Invite roster on the RGL site or confirmed to Kitty/Plinko/Je'Mond of their intended plans before the extended deadline.
Revised timelines for S18 Sixes Invite will be as follows:
[b]Qualifier Teams Announced:[/b] Sunday, May 11th
[b]Invite Qualifiers:[/b] May 13-16 (exact dates and times TBD)
[b]Invite Registration Closes[/b]: 11:59PM EDT Wednesday, May 28
[b]Division Payments Due:[/b] Sunday, June 1 (must have 5 rostered and paid)
[b]Matches Posted:[/b] Sunday, June 1
[b]1st Default Match date:[/b] Tuesday, June 3
[b]Last Day to Reschedule Regular Season Matches:[/b] Tuesday, July 2
[b]Invite Playoffs at RGL Philly LAN: [/b] July 18-20

Other division deadlines and schedules will not be affected.
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come on guys let's sign up, are we really gonna let JW and della get 4th place, they've also poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and deliver a plague unto our houses!

come on guys let's sign up, are we really gonna let JW and della get 4th place, they've also poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and deliver a plague unto our houses!
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Alright, that's it. LFT.

Alright, that's it. LFT.
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https://i.imgur.com/oSgBB9e.png

felt like this should be addressed

even though im not playing invite this season im not opposed to this change, i just think its funny to trial something potentially meta-shifting in this years lan season

also not sure if this unban will be for all divs, rgl should clarify on that

[img]https://i.imgur.com/oSgBB9e.png[/img]

felt like this should be addressed

even though im not playing invite this season im not opposed to this change, i just think its funny to trial something potentially meta-shifting in this years lan season

also not sure if this unban will be for all divs, rgl should clarify on that
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last time this happened like 3 invite teams died overnight

last time this happened like 3 invite teams died overnight
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loafefelt like this should be addressed

https://i.imgur.com/Y4xBC47.png

[quote=loafe]felt like this should be addressed[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Y4xBC47.png[/img]
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loafehttps://i.imgur.com/oSgBB9e.png
something potentially meta-shifting

in EU we tested it during a cup (alongside gas passer and meme spoon). some funnies were done like skybox demoman rollout, probably the "best" use case. It was unbanned and nobody used it after. Been multiple seasons now

RGL still has some actually strong meta-shifts like loch n load (same slot as base jumper).
So using a base jumper demo would be an even bigger loss in NA than EU

NA soldiers don't seem fond of giving up gunboats. They're not even running battalion's backup on last stalemates afaik. If they go parachute before learning that, they're throwing

[quote=loafe][img]https://i.imgur.com/oSgBB9e.png[/img]
something potentially meta-shifting[/quote]
in EU we tested it during a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfiekDo0zpk]cup[/url] (alongside gas passer and meme spoon). some funnies were done like skybox demoman rollout, probably the "best" use case. It was unbanned and nobody used it after. Been multiple seasons now

RGL still has some actually strong meta-shifts like loch n load (same slot as base jumper).
So using a base jumper demo would be an even bigger loss in NA than EU

NA soldiers don't seem fond of giving up gunboats. They're not even running battalion's backup on last stalemates afaik. If they go parachute before learning that, they're throwing
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Congratulations to manulization and Ninjago!, both of whom earned spots in RGL Invite Sixes this season by winning the Qualifier event last week.

We are able to take registration of one additional team into the Invite division for Season 18 up until May 28th. As above, interested teams/leaders should reach out directly to discuss creation of an Invite team.
Site registration is closed as Advanced and lower divisions start season play this week.

Congratulations to [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=13765&r=40]manulization[/url] and [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Team?t=13858&r=40]Ninjago![/url], both of whom earned spots in RGL Invite Sixes this season by winning the Qualifier event last week.

We are able to take registration of one additional team into the Invite division for Season 18 up until May 28th. As above, interested teams/leaders should reach out directly to discuss creation of an Invite team.
Site registration is closed as Advanced and lower divisions start season play this week.
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Tobquote

i just think use-case weapons are interesting, and i also think they should be unbanned to help with gameplay diversity (namely the base jumper, and imo the bonk as well)

i think 6s is very very stale in respects to meta and map-pool, and adding anything to make the game new/fun/learnable is good for the health of 6s

Tob some funnies were done like skybox demoman rollout, probably the "best" use case. It was unbanned and nobody used it after. Been multiple seasons now

i want to preface that im not saying this to throw shade to EU, i just think our regions have operated differently in terms of meta development

i feel like the fact that the best use-case you could provide for the base jumper being the "demo skybox mid" shows that the item probably just hasnt been touched at all in EU

despite its appearance as a meme unlock i think the base jumper could be really useful for pressuring on open points, because of the ability to get incredibly spam angles by being in the skybox or just by drawing eyes. and its also just really fun to use

i think, not even because of its abilities but simply because its unbanned, the base jumper will see ample playtime this season

at one point both the loch and spoon (beggars too) were meme weapons, so time will tell

Tob They're not even running battalion's backup on last stalemates afaik. If they go parachute before learning that, they're throwing

lol

[quote=Tob]quote[/quote]
i just think use-case weapons are interesting, and i also think they should be unbanned to help with gameplay diversity (namely the base jumper, and imo the bonk as well)

i think 6s is very very stale in respects to meta and map-pool, and adding anything to make the game new/fun/learnable is good for the health of 6s

[quote=Tob] some funnies were done like skybox demoman rollout, probably the "best" use case. It was unbanned and nobody used it after. Been multiple seasons now
[/quote]
i want to preface that im not saying this to throw shade to EU, i just think our regions have operated differently in terms of meta development

i feel like the fact that the best use-case you could provide for the base jumper being the "demo skybox mid" shows that the item probably just hasnt been touched at all in EU

despite its appearance as a meme unlock i think the base jumper could be really useful for pressuring on open points, because of the ability to get incredibly spam angles by being in the skybox or just by drawing eyes. and its also just really fun to use

i think, not even because of its abilities but simply because its unbanned, the base jumper will see ample playtime this season

at one point both the loch and spoon (beggars too) were meme weapons, so time will tell

[quote=Tob] They're not even running battalion's backup on last stalemates afaik. If they go parachute before learning that, they're throwing[/quote]
lol
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Loafe, what's your reasoning for wanting bonk unbanned? I'm curious because I also don't see it as a particularly harmful weapon at this point in the game either. I could see it being an additional anti stalemate/ last push tool because you can use to distract sentries while your soldier sacs. Afaik people don't like bonk because it lets scouts get behind "for free" but all you have to do is get some damage and make sure you have someone win an essentially free 1v1. I know you can strafe diagonally or something to counteract the slowdown effect but that's still super limiting in an actual fight. Even if I'm wrong and it is just a way for scouts to get behind for free, I'm fine with with that because getting behind is a play that makes things happen and I'm pro making things happen. If I have any concerns with the weapon, it's using it as a get out of jail free card.

Loafe, what's your reasoning for wanting bonk unbanned? I'm curious because I also don't see it as a particularly harmful weapon at this point in the game either. I could see it being an additional anti stalemate/ last push tool because you can use to distract sentries while your soldier sacs. Afaik people don't like bonk because it lets scouts get behind "for free" but all you have to do is get some damage and make sure you have someone win an essentially free 1v1. I know you can strafe diagonally or something to counteract the slowdown effect but that's still super limiting in an actual fight. Even if I'm wrong and it is just a way for scouts to get behind for free, I'm fine with with that because getting behind is a play that makes things happen and I'm pro making things happen. If I have any concerns with the weapon, it's using it as a get out of jail free card.
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you can use bonk to run up to the medic and hit a free meat shot. keep it banned.

you can use bonk to run up to the medic and hit a free meat shot. keep it banned.
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what if you countered the free meatshot strat by placing a bunch of stickies at ur meds feet and detonating them right before bonk wears off, exploding the scout into the skybox.

what if you countered the free meatshot strat by placing a bunch of stickies at ur meds feet and detonating them right before bonk wears off, exploding the scout into the skybox.
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time to run thru the choke with no stickies on it thanks

time to run thru the choke with no stickies on it thanks
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capnnofapnEven if I'm wrong and it is just a way for scouts to get behind for free, I'm fine with with that because getting behind is a play that makes things happen and I'm pro making things happen. If I have any concerns with the weapon, it's using it as a get out of jail free card.

When you can’t stop things from happening until they’ve already happened it feels unfair to the team the stuff is happening to.

[quote=capnnofapn]Even if I'm wrong and it is just a way for scouts to get behind for free, I'm fine with with that because getting behind is a play that makes things happen and I'm pro making things happen. If I have any concerns with the weapon, it's using it as a get out of jail free card.[/quote]
When you can’t stop things from happening until they’ve already happened it feels unfair to the team the stuff is happening to.
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Brimstonetime to run thru the choke with no stickies on it thanks

lol good point

[quote=Brimstone]time to run thru the choke with no stickies on it thanks[/quote]

lol good point
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Unban the whip

Unban the whip
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DivineATyou can use bonk to run up to the medic and hit a free meat shot. keep it banned.

valid point but how is this any more offensive than a loch pipe or having a sniper in play in the same scenarios where bonk would be used

the issue at hand is how bonk is currently bugged, if it were to work as intended any explosion knockback or bullets would always slow down the bonk scout

[quote=DivineAT]you can use bonk to run up to the medic and hit a free meat shot. keep it banned.[/quote]

valid point but how is this any more offensive than a loch pipe or having a sniper in play in the same scenarios where bonk would be used

the issue at hand is how bonk is currently bugged, if it were to work as intended any explosion knockback or bullets would always slow down the bonk scout
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Base jumper on a map like sultry seems insane lol. High bomb and float above the enemy’s choke to force half the enemy team to either look straight up or eat ungodly spam.

Base jumper on a map like sultry seems insane lol. High bomb and float above the enemy’s choke to force half the enemy team to either look straight up or eat ungodly spam.
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capnnofapn Afaik people don't like bonk because it lets scouts get behind "for free" but all you have to do is get some damage and make sure you have someone win an essentially free 1v1.

I'm pretty sure it originally got banned not because people were using it to get behind for free, but as a free way to get out of a bad situation. I'm pretty sure I remember videos of scouts dropping to low health and running behind a wall to drink bonk because it was faster than respawning. That might be a lot less effective in today's meta though.

[quote=capnnofapn] Afaik people don't like bonk because it lets scouts get behind "for free" but all you have to do is get some damage and make sure you have someone win an essentially free 1v1.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it originally got banned not because people were using it to get behind for free, but as a free way to get out of a bad situation. I'm pretty sure I remember videos of scouts dropping to low health and running behind a wall to drink bonk because it was faster than respawning. That might be a lot less effective in today's meta though.
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this season looks EPIC! GO TF2!

this season looks EPIC! GO TF2!
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