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ban market gardener rgl
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#1
0 Frags +

i just took the rgl postseason survey and noticed on the whitelist section it only asks about cow mangler and pocket pistol with no mention of the market gardener. imo the weapon only serves to detract from the game with its 1 shot kill mechanic. anyway, let's discuss as i'm sure there many differing and polarized opinions regarding the weapon and it's kinda weird rgl didn't even put it on the survey.

also let's try and gauge the general opinion ourselves with a strawpoll:
https://strawpoll.com/k571u25pz

i just took the rgl postseason survey and noticed on the whitelist section it only asks about cow mangler and pocket pistol with no mention of the market gardener. imo the weapon only serves to detract from the game with its 1 shot kill mechanic. anyway, let's discuss as i'm sure there many differing and polarized opinions regarding the weapon and it's kinda weird rgl didn't even put it on the survey.

also let's try and gauge the general opinion ourselves with a strawpoll:
https://strawpoll.com/k571u25pz
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#2
52 Frags +

please just ban it so the moron playing roamer on my team in a pug stops derp bombing in and pulling out the spoon when the rockets they have loaded would easily kill the target

please just ban it so the moron playing roamer on my team in a pug stops derp bombing in and pulling out the spoon when the rockets they have loaded would easily kill the target
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#3
24 Frags +

i voted no because i like watching jay's stream sry all

i voted no because i like watching jay's stream sry all
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#4
42 Frags +

rgl should make it so i can specifically call ppl who use the mg slurs

actually just fyg i dont care about anyone else who uses it

rgl should make it so i can specifically call ppl who use the mg slurs

actually just fyg i dont care about anyone else who uses it
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#5
25 Frags +

I don't really care that much either way but it is pretty weird that it wasn't included in the survey given its status as pretty clearly the most controversial unlock currently allowed- maybe it's cuz they wanted to focus more on which weapons to include rather than which to exclude, but it's certainly worth at least having the conversation

I don't really care that much either way but it is pretty weird that it wasn't included in the survey given its status as pretty clearly the most controversial unlock currently allowed- maybe it's cuz they wanted to focus more on which weapons to include rather than which to exclude, but it's certainly worth at least having the conversation
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#6
-28 Frags +

stay mad, trolldier mains will stay superior :sunglasses:

stay mad, trolldier mains will stay superior :sunglasses:
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#7
3 Frags +
mustardoverlordI don't really care that much either way but it is pretty weird that it wasn't included in the survey given its status as pretty clearly the most controversial unlock currently allowed- maybe it's cuz they wanted to focus more on which weapons to include rather than which to exclude, but it's certainly worth at least having the conversation

As we all know the ideal competitive TF2 we should all strive for is one where eventually all the weapons are unbanned

[quote=mustardoverlord]I don't really care that much either way but it is pretty weird that it wasn't included in the survey given its status as pretty clearly the most controversial unlock currently allowed- maybe it's cuz they wanted to focus more on which weapons to include rather than which to exclude, but it's certainly worth at least having the conversation[/quote]
As we all know the ideal competitive TF2 we should all strive for is one where eventually all the weapons are unbanned
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#8
15 Frags +
GrapeJuiceIIIAs we all know the ideal competitive TF2 we should all strive for is one where eventually all the weapons are unbanned

gabe told me once we unban reserve shooter and mad milk we'll get our major

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]
As we all know the ideal competitive TF2 we should all strive for is one where eventually all the weapons are unbanned[/quote]
gabe told me once we unban reserve shooter and mad milk we'll get our major
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#9
12 Frags +

i really dont get why RGL wouldn't just ask the same exact questions as they did in past seasons, in addition to anything new
if you took an action to ban or unban a weapon based on people's opinions a year ago, it's probably a good idea to sample again and confirm that people still think it should be banned/unbanned

also from an analysis perspective they really should be asking which single map they people to remove if they had to pick one, as that is the action RGL takes based on the map feedback (can do this in addition to rating enjoyability)
i swear ive been saying this stuff for years but maybe now that reno is admin there's hope that the way these surveys get done could change lol

i really dont get why RGL wouldn't just ask the same exact questions as they did in past seasons, in addition to anything new
if you took an action to ban or unban a weapon based on people's opinions a year ago, it's probably a good idea to sample again and confirm that people still think it should be banned/unbanned

also from an analysis perspective they really should be asking which single map they people to remove if they had to pick one, as that is the action RGL takes based on the map feedback (can do this in addition to rating enjoyability)
i swear ive been saying this stuff for years but maybe now that reno is admin there's hope that the way these surveys get done could change lol
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#10
-1 Frags +

Weird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.

Weird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.
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#11
-5 Frags +
FactsMachineWeird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.

yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxe

[quote=FactsMachine]Weird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.[/quote]
yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxe
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#12
34 Frags +
SOOOOOAPYMEISTERFactsMachineWeird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxe

Shut The Fuck Up honorable mention?

[quote=SOOOOOAPYMEISTER][quote=FactsMachine]Weird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.[/quote]
yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxe[/quote]
Shut The Fuck Up honorable mention?
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#13
22 Frags +
lolguy_SOOOOOAPYMEISTERFactsMachineWeird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxeShut The Fuck Up honorable mention?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/746585705379266611/916533809367887942/maxresdefault.png

[quote=lolguy_][quote=SOOOOOAPYMEISTER][quote=FactsMachine]Weird how one weapon we thought was garbage is now something everyone wants to ban.[/quote]
yeah its because nobody really had good enough mechanics years ago to make it worthwhile over the escape plan which is why every thought it was bad imo. but even still i think only a select few soldiers make it better than pickaxe[/quote]
Shut The Fuck Up honorable mention?[/quote]
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