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why dafuqwizat didn't cheat:
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#181
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ban for cheating should be perm, not only 1 year LOL!

ban for cheating should be perm, not only 1 year LOL!
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#182
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I would love to understand everything that is written, I feel that I am missing something huge about this drama, but my skill in English is not good enough to understand everything.

But for me, I'm seriously thinking if the admins don't ban this guy (after reviewing a lot of demos)
https://etf2l.org/forum/user/125106/
maybe this means that we should trust AC admins for the wizat ban, am I wrong ?

Moreover about the admin abuse of Kaylus, it will be difficult to prove, because as I play with him I can assure you, that he was the first to want to stay in D1 and after our mediocre/bad performance at prem qualifiers we don't even claim the prem slot (in spite of the fact that we won by default).

I would love to understand everything that is written, I feel that I am missing something huge about this drama, but my skill in English is not good enough to understand everything.

But for me, I'm seriously thinking if the admins don't ban this guy (after reviewing a lot of demos)
https://etf2l.org/forum/user/125106/
maybe this means that we should trust AC admins for the wizat ban, am I wrong ?

Moreover about the admin abuse of Kaylus, it will be difficult to prove, because as I play with him I can assure you, that he was the first to want to stay in D1 and after our mediocre/bad performance at prem qualifiers we don't even claim the prem slot (in spite of the fact that we won by default).
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#183
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ETF2L didn't ban me because i didn't go prem :)

ETF2L didn't ban me because i didn't go prem :)
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#184
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https://youtu.be/_ObYgSmttto?t=88
speed 0,75

https://youtu.be/_ObYgSmttto?t=88
speed 0,75
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#185
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counouwords

okay slow down for a second. yeah it's just a game, but if you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well. I know I would and I don't even take this game seriously. You'd try to defend yourself.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself. If you did and you're wasting everyone's time by arguing here, eat shit. But if you didn't it's understandable that this whole thing sounds pretty fuckin unfair from your point of view. It's just that the only people who can do anything are AC staff, and playing 100 legit matches on stream won't change their minds about the one game where they thought you weren't legit. And yeah, it only takes one. Sorry.

[quote=counou]words[/quote]

okay slow down for a second. yeah it's just a game, but if you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well. I know I would and I don't even take this game seriously. You'd try to defend yourself.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself. If you did and you're wasting everyone's time by arguing here, eat shit. But if you didn't it's understandable that this whole thing sounds pretty fuckin unfair from your point of view. It's just that the only people who can do anything are AC staff, and playing 100 legit matches on stream won't change their minds about the one game where they thought you weren't legit. And yeah, it only takes one. Sorry.
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#186
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try aiming

try aiming
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#187
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GetawhaleWhen they caught vlad cheating in 2016, he admitted to using LMAOBox but pretended he thought it was just a training tool. UGC forums are dead nowadays but he said something like "When I heard of LMAOBox, it sounded too good to be true. Get good with little effort? Why WOULDN'T I want that?"

I liked that stupid defense better than whatever this shit is

http://puu.sh/C5EV2/709921f896.jpg

[quote=Getawhale]When they caught vlad cheating in 2016, he admitted to using LMAOBox but pretended he thought it was just a training tool. UGC forums are dead nowadays but he said something like "When I heard of LMAOBox, it sounded too good to be true. Get good with little effort? Why WOULDN'T I want that?"

I liked that stupid defense better than whatever this shit is[/quote]
[img]http://puu.sh/C5EV2/709921f896.jpg[/img]
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#188
Process/Gullywash Refresh
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4hpif you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself.

Interesting how, even after all this discussion, your default assumption is still that he's innocent and that 100% damning evidence is impossible.

[quote=4hp]if you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself. [/quote]
Interesting how, even after all this discussion, your default assumption is still that he's innocent and that 100% damning evidence is impossible.
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#189
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I don't know one way or another and everyone makes mistakes. Not making any assumptions.

P.S. I'm not even defending him or saying he should be unbanned. I trust the AC team 99%. Not 100, because they're human. And I'm a bit curious about this case because while I'm not friends with the player in question I played against him many times, hell, it'd probably be in my interest if he stays banned. But I'm not asking for etf2l's process to be changed. I believe he gets one appeal? Let him have that and if the decision doesn't change, so be it.

Also lock the thread because all I see is people being 'haha sniper main' or trying to argue whether he cheated or not based on stuff that only AC and himself know. I forgot how fuckin toxic it is in here.

I don't know one way or another and everyone makes mistakes. Not making any assumptions.

P.S. I'm not even defending him or saying he should be unbanned. I trust the AC team 99%. Not 100, because they're human. And I'm a bit curious about this case because while I'm not friends with the player in question I played against him many times, hell, it'd probably be in my interest if he stays banned. But I'm not asking for etf2l's process to be changed. I believe he gets one appeal? Let him have that and if the decision doesn't change, so be it.

Also lock the thread because all I see is people being 'haha sniper main' or trying to argue whether he cheated or not based on stuff that only AC and himself know. I forgot how fuckin toxic it is in here.
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#190
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Collaide4hpif you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself.
Interesting how, even after all this discussion, your default assumption is still that he's innocent and that 100% damning evidence is impossible.

Because you have failed to provide any to prove he's 100% guilty.

[quote=Collaide][quote=4hp]if you woke up to a ban because AC thought your flicks looked weird you'd be pretty pissed as well.

Just making that point because obviously the only person who knows 100% if he cheated or not is wizat himself. [/quote]
Interesting how, even after all this discussion, your default assumption is still that he's innocent and that 100% damning evidence is impossible.[/quote]

Because you have failed to provide any to prove he's 100% guilty.
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#191
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imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place

imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place
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#192
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come on guys, he was a sniper main, nothing of value has been lost (lock this thread pls)

come on guys, he was a sniper main, nothing of value has been lost (lock this thread pls)
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#193
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dMenaceimagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

[quote=dMenace]imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place[/quote]

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual
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#194
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DaFuQWiZaTdMenaceimagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place
I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

you can still play on hvh servers

[quote=DaFuQWiZaT][quote=dMenace]imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place[/quote]

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual[/quote]

you can still play on hvh servers
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#195
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DaFuQWiZaTdMenaceimagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place
I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

You called the game dead anyway? Best to move on. I feel really blessed you're not around to ruin my games anymore

[quote=DaFuQWiZaT][quote=dMenace]imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place[/quote]

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual[/quote]

You called the game dead anyway? Best to move on. I feel really blessed you're not around to ruin my games anymore
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#196
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DaFuQWiZaTI really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

If you're just so good that every single anticheat admin believes you're aimbotting, maybe it's for the best. Now you can leave this 13 year old dead game and pursue going pro in valorant, show em all your sick aim skillz. You're not getting unbanned either way.

[quote=DaFuQWiZaT]I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual[/quote]

If you're just so good that every single anticheat admin believes you're aimbotting, maybe it's for the best. Now you can leave this 13 year old dead game and pursue going pro in valorant, show em all your sick aim skillz. You're not getting unbanned either way.
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#197
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DaFuQWiZaTdMenaceimagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place
I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

you should appreciate the irony of being stuck in a server with cheater bots..

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ask one of your fanboiis to vaccinate you and maybe you can be the dark knight who slays them...
[quote=DaFuQWiZaT][quote=dMenace]imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place[/quote]

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual[/quote]
you should appreciate the irony of being stuck in a server with cheater bots..
[spoiler]ask one of your fanboiis to vaccinate you and maybe you can be the dark knight who slays them...[/spoiler]
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#198
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DaFuQWiZaTdMenaceimagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place
I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual

True you could go back to play with the Legacy guy , or i am i wrong?

[quote=DaFuQWiZaT][quote=dMenace]imagine getting witch hunted out of a community with no incentive to stay in the first place[/quote]

I really don't wanna leave this game but now all I can play is casual[/quote]


True you could go back to play with the Legacy guy , or i am i wrong?
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#199
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lock thread

lock thread
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#200
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Somehow this thread is worse than the threads I make...

Somehow this thread is worse than the threads I make...
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