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Is it worth getting a monitor with more than 144hz?

Is it worth getting a monitor with more than 144hz?
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The Eyes Can't See More Than 56 Frames Per Second

The Eyes Can't See More Than 56 Frames Per Second
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I oc'd mine to 165hz and I cannot tell a difference. I've heard that 144 to 240 is the same as going from 60 to 144, but not many games will reach 240 fps

I oc'd mine to 165hz and I cannot tell a difference. I've heard that 144 to 240 is the same as going from 60 to 144, but not many games will reach 240 fps
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if you can get the fps and can afford it why not, I think there are 400$ 240hz monitors out there. You also maybe go the refurbished route but I don’t know too much about monitors for me to reccomend going that way

if you can get the fps and can afford it why not, I think there are 400$ 240hz monitors out there. You also maybe go the refurbished route but I don’t know too much about monitors for me to reccomend going that way
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I personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.

I personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.
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_TannerI personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.

prettier to look at?

sure

better for playing competitive tf2?

not a chance

[quote=_Tanner]I personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.[/quote]

prettier to look at?

sure

better for playing competitive tf2?

not a chance
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m_TannerI personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.
prettier to look at?

sure

better for playing competitive tf2?

not a chance

Whys that? Also, I would never pay $200-$400 for a chance to up my dpm lol

[quote=m][quote=_Tanner]I personally think a 144hz 1440p monitor would be better, but thats opinion.[/quote]

prettier to look at?

sure

better for playing competitive tf2?

not a chance[/quote]

Whys that? Also, I would never pay $200-$400 for a chance to up my dpm lol
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ya thats not at all what u did when u bought a 144hz in the first place, right?

ya thats not at all what u did when u bought a 144hz in the first place, right?
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Is it worth it?

Lemme work it

I put my thang down flip it and reverse it

Is it worth it?

Lemme work it

I put my thang down flip it and reverse it
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Technically speaking it is, the higher the refresh rate the better, and if money isn't a concern then you might as well go for it, but IMO a 160hz monitor wouldn't be worth it, if you're going to go past 144hz you should either go for 180hz or 240hz

Technically speaking it is, the higher the refresh rate the better, and if money isn't a concern then you might as well go for it, but IMO a 160hz monitor wouldn't be worth it, if you're going to go past 144hz you should either go for 180hz or 240hz
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It doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.

It doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.
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^ From the guy who is still on 60 hz

^ From the guy who is still on 60 hz
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VisIt doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.

its not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms

[quote=Vis]It doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.[/quote]

its not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms
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#14
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https://youtu.be/pUvx81C4bgs?t=22s

https://youtu.be/pUvx81C4bgs?t=22s
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#15
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it is worth it
144->240 is not worth it unless you don't mind spending a lot of money

it is worth it
144->240 is not worth it unless you don't mind spending a lot of money
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yes

yes
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VisIt doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.

depends for some people buddy, but, from my point of view, i stepped up each time i changed from 60 to 75 to 144 and then to 216 and finally 240 (don't ask me why 216), not dm-wise really (expect for hitscan which you can see quite an improvement) but mostly because you feel more confortable and you can focus less on your dm, and more about the other things, and because you're really focused on ultiduo, i assume you would think the same as me if you try.

Also, tracking-wise it gives visually a huge margin of progress that you can improve on

[quote=Vis]It doesn't really matter, I've always played with 60hz and everyone who has upgraded to 144hz from 60 said it's different but you don't just straight out improve. Also your eyes will eventually get used to the new refresh rate and if you had a better performance at the beginning, it will slowly decline, so I assume the same would apply from 144hz to 240hz. Unless there is some game out there that requires it, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.[/quote]
depends for some people buddy, but, from my point of view, i stepped up each time i changed from 60 to 75 to 144 and then to 216 and finally 240 (don't ask me why 216), not dm-wise really (expect for hitscan which you can see quite an improvement) but mostly because you feel more confortable and you can focus less on your dm, and more about the other things, and because you're really focused on ultiduo, i assume you would think the same as me if you try.

Also, tracking-wise it gives visually a huge margin of progress that you can improve on
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switching to 240 for me wasnt a massive difference.

it's noticeably smoother but it's not even close to the 60->120 gap.

when you flail around, things look more clear but thats basically it

switching to 240 for me wasnt a massive difference.

it's noticeably smoother but it's not even close to the 60->120 gap.

when you flail around, things look more clear but thats basically it
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if you make money spend it the way you want too. its your money. I just bought a 240hz because my 144hz is almost 4 years old and is scratched, so its annoying to play on so i got my moneys worth out of it. So i don't mind upgrading, i can make my money back.
i also got a nice tax refund i haven't used yet so i thought why not.

if you make money spend it the way you want too. its your money. I just bought a 240hz because my 144hz is almost 4 years old and is scratched, so its annoying to play on so i got my moneys worth out of it. So i don't mind upgrading, i can make my money back.
i also got a nice tax refund i haven't used yet so i thought why not.
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frenzy_if you make money spend it the way you want too. its your money. I just bought a 240hz because my 144hz is almost 4 years old and is scratched, so its annoying to play on so i got my moneys worth out of it. So i don't mind upgrading, i can make my money back.
i also got a nice tax refund i haven't used yet so i thought why not.

You selling the old one?

[quote=frenzy_]if you make money spend it the way you want too. its your money. I just bought a 240hz because my 144hz is almost 4 years old and is scratched, so its annoying to play on so i got my moneys worth out of it. So i don't mind upgrading, i can make my money back.
i also got a nice tax refund i haven't used yet so i thought why not.[/quote]
You selling the old one?
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hpqoeuits not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms

Yes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a great difference as well lol

[quote=hpqoeu]
its not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms[/quote]
Yes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a great difference as well lol
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Vishpqoeuits not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 msYes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a great difference as well lol

you must have built in brain delay then if you cant tell the difference

[quote=Vis][quote=hpqoeu]
its not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms[/quote]
Yes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a great difference as well lol[/quote]

you must have built in brain delay then if you cant tell the difference
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hpqoeuVishpqoeuits not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 msYes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a great difference as well lol

you must have built in brain delay then if you cant tell the difference

You must have missed the first years of school if you can't properly read what I've typed. I said it wasn't a great difference, viz. one just gets used to whatever they play with for over 2-3 days.

[quote=hpqoeu][quote=Vis][quote=hpqoeu]
its not just about "smoother image" or your 'eyes getting used to it' its about the input lag/frame delay as well. on 60 hz there's 16.67 ms between each frame, 120 hz that halves to 8.333, 240 that's down to 4.16 ms[/quote]
Yes, that is literally what refresh rate means.
Also, I used to play with 30hz before and going from 30 to 60 wasn't a [u]great[/u] difference as well lol[/quote]

you must have built in brain delay then if you cant tell the difference[/quote]
You must have missed the first years of school if you can't properly read what I've typed. I said it wasn't a [u]great[/u] difference, viz. one just gets used to whatever they play with for over 2-3 days.
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why is it even a question as to whether vis has brain delay.

why is it even a question as to whether vis has brain delay.
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this is a good thread

this is a good thread
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ok i’m convinced he’s trolling because 45 compared to 60 is already pretty bad to my eyes

ok i’m convinced he’s trolling because 45 compared to 60 is already pretty bad to my eyes
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there are 300$ 240hz on Amazon I just checked

there are 300$ 240hz on Amazon I just checked
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For TF2? Probably not. This game doesn't run well enough to justify 240hz over 144hz on the vast majority of systems even with a graphics config.

For TF2? Probably not. This game doesn't run well enough to justify 240hz over 144hz on the vast majority of systems even with a graphics config.
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