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ETF2L S27 W5: ANTIC vs. Se7en
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#61
12 Frags +
kaidusHonestly the guys who have been cheering him on for the past three weeks when he's been in this state should take a look at themselves too. The amount of positive reinforcement puoskari has received whilst doing these sorts of antics is pretty disgraceful. He clearly has issues underlying the substance use, some of which definitely seem to be to do with interpreting social behaviours. Being egged on by hundreds of people was only ever going to go one way with someone so seemingly vulnerable. It doesn't excuse the behaviour, but everyone should take personal responsibility for themselves before condemning this guy, and from my perspective people other than puoskari himself have given very poor accounts of themselves.

People didn't cheer on him because of his substance abuse, people cheered on him because he was seen as an upcoming top player. This is 100% normal and will happen to anyone who has proven to be a good player in some way or another.

[quote=kaidus]Honestly the guys who have been cheering him on for the past three weeks when he's been in this state should take a look at themselves too. The amount of positive reinforcement puoskari has received whilst doing these sorts of antics is pretty disgraceful. He clearly has issues underlying the substance use, some of which definitely seem to be to do with interpreting social behaviours. Being egged on by hundreds of people was only ever going to go one way with someone so seemingly vulnerable. It doesn't excuse the behaviour, but everyone should take personal responsibility for themselves before condemning this guy, and from my perspective people other than puoskari himself have given very poor accounts of themselves.[/quote]

People didn't cheer on him because of his substance abuse, people cheered on him because he was seen as an upcoming top player. This is 100% normal and will happen to anyone who has proven to be a good player in some way or another.
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#62
-32 Frags +

lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate

lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate
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#63
33 Frags +
nuttynutnutlol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate

can you please stop posting

[quote=nuttynutnut]lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate[/quote]
can you please stop posting
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#64
-27 Frags +
aratinganuttynutnutlol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate
can you please stop posting

You can never shut the voice of truth.

[quote=aratinga][quote=nuttynutnut]lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate[/quote]
can you please stop posting[/quote]

You can never shut the voice of truth.
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#65
15 Frags +

why are some people sayng mean things about puoskari when he is struggling with deppresion and anxiety, people should support him more so he fixes his behavior and get better, also since he left the team does this mean he wont be at i61?

why are some people sayng mean things about puoskari when he is struggling with deppresion and anxiety, people should support him more so he fixes his behavior and get better, also since he left the team does this mean he wont be at i61?
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#66
17 Frags +
nuttynutnutaratinganuttynutnutlol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate
can you please stop posting

You can never shut the voice of truth.

truth? hello?
there is no one in this thread that doesn't know what puo did. All you're doing is insulting, stop being so contemptuous

[quote=nuttynutnut][quote=aratinga][quote=nuttynutnut]lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate[/quote]
can you please stop posting[/quote]

You can never shut the voice of truth.[/quote]
truth? hello?
there is no one in this thread that doesn't know what puo did. All you're doing is insulting, stop being so contemptuous
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#67
34 Frags +

Puo, if you read this, understand that no one on tftv is qualified to give you proper advice on this, and it's worth speaking to a professional about it. If you've had help from someone before, speak to them again and address the issue of spending a lot of your time playing a competitive team game and get some advice on how to proceed. It could be the case that a break is what you need, or perhaps under the circumstances this is good for you so long as you take care of yourself.

In any case, take tftv with a grain of salt when it comes to irl matters cos despite how nice people in this community can be, compassion is not an appropriate substitute for professional experience.

Puo, if you read this, understand that no one on tftv is qualified to give you proper advice on this, and it's worth speaking to a professional about it. If you've had help from someone before, speak to them again and address the issue of spending a lot of your time playing a competitive team game and get some advice on how to proceed. It could be the case that a break is what you need, or perhaps under the circumstances this is good for you so long as you take care of yourself.

In any case, take tftv with a grain of salt when it comes to irl matters cos despite how nice people in this community can be, compassion is not an appropriate substitute for professional experience.
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#68
30 Frags +
nuttynutnutlol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate

i think ur the only degenerate in this thread

[quote=nuttynutnut]lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate[/quote]
i think ur the only degenerate in this thread
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#69
26 Frags +

You don't understand shit about the situation as a whole, AMS won't clarify what's up, but please stop shitting on me for this shit, the story behind this situation is what it is, it's private, it was ridiculous of me to play and not get merced despite being so fucked up, I told ams and stuff, I was only told to do my best, I was so fucked up I couldn't realized that it's going to really ruin the night for all my teammates the night, I just couldn't.

Now I regret it a lot and I'm just getting a lot of shit, I feel just worse, I'm sorry for people I hurt and wasted their time.

You don't understand shit about the situation as a whole, AMS won't clarify what's up, but please stop shitting on me for this shit, the story behind this situation is what it is, it's private, it was ridiculous of me to play and not get merced despite being so fucked up, I told ams and stuff, I was only told to do my best, I was so fucked up I couldn't realized that it's going to really ruin the night for all my teammates the night, I just couldn't.

Now I regret it a lot and I'm just getting a lot of shit, I feel just worse, I'm sorry for people I hurt and wasted their time.
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#70
1 Frags +

its not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life

its not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life
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#71
-27 Frags +
rocketslaywhat's the point of playing prem when ur gonna get rolled by se7en

B-but people say 6s isn't a stale mode!

[quote=rocketslay]what's the point of playing prem when ur gonna get rolled by se7en[/quote]


B-but people say 6s isn't a stale mode!
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#72
4 Frags +
rocketslayits not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life

his health is way more important than a 6s match, but actually they were damn close to taking the first round on via. after that it coulda snowballed. you never know.

[quote=rocketslay]its not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life[/quote]
his health is way more important than a 6s match, but actually they were damn close to taking the first round on via. after that it coulda snowballed. you never know.
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#73
7 Frags +
rocketslayits not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life

They won 2 rounds in a 5v6. I'm not saying a win was likely but it would definitely have been possible.

[quote=rocketslay]its not like they were going to win if puo wasn't wasted lmAO who cares just let the guy fix his life[/quote]

They won 2 rounds in a 5v6. I'm not saying a win was likely but it would definitely have been possible.
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#74
26 Frags +

Ban nutty

Ban nutty
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#75
10 Frags +

The only way you can help those with issues is to provide them with kindness, speaking from the perspective of someone who's been on both sides.

At the end of the day, this is a computer game where the prize money at the highest level is laughable. You don't dedicate so many hours into it to make a living out of it, you do it because it's something you find enjoyable. The worst thing he did (based from what I could gather here) was temporarily upset a few people's gaming experience. He didn't harm anyone's "career", he made a few sweaty nerds who give more importance to a game than the mental healthcare of someone angry.

nuttynutnutlol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate

The only degenerate here is you

The only way you can help those with issues is to provide them with kindness, speaking from the perspective of someone who's been on both sides.

At the end of the day, this is a computer game where the prize money at the highest level is laughable. You don't dedicate so many hours into it to make a living out of it, you do it because it's something you find enjoyable. The worst thing he did (based from what I could gather here) was temporarily upset a few people's gaming experience. He didn't harm anyone's "career", he made a few sweaty nerds who give more importance to a game than the mental healthcare of someone angry.

[quote=nuttynutnut]lol puo fucked up

and all of you guys downvoted your old man nutty nut when I said that puo's threads are useless bla bla and he's a degenerate[/quote]
The only degenerate here is you
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#76
9 Frags +

Let's not be so quick to point the finger at ams and the antic guys either, from my experience they're nice and mean well, I'm guessing this is more of a misunderstanding or miscommunication than people are making it out to be.

Let's not be so quick to point the finger at ams and the antic guys either, from my experience they're nice and mean well, I'm guessing this is more of a misunderstanding or miscommunication than people are making it out to be.
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#77
-11 Frags +

so which scout is most likely to replace puoskari? maybe Herr_p as he is on the roster?

so which scout is most likely to replace puoskari? maybe Herr_p as he is on the roster?
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#78
12 Frags +

you.

you.
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#79
3 Frags +
YeeHawso which scout is most likely to replace puoskari? maybe Herr_p as he is on the roster?

Does herr_P even play the game anymore? legit question i thought he left for OW or smth

[quote=YeeHaw]so which scout is most likely to replace puoskari? maybe Herr_p as he is on the roster?[/quote]

Does herr_P even play the game anymore? legit question i thought he left for OW or smth
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#80
43 Frags +

This thread makes me so sad, Puoskari is a lovely guy but he has this tendency to try to open up to the world or whatever when hes on something, in my opinion its worse when he gets this encouragement from some people on here.

I think this kind of issues is something you need to figure out and realize yourself rather than have some videogame forum trying to fix your shit.

I think my team is pretty decided on not playing with him, but some people in the team don't think its a good idea to cut him at all.
I want to keep playing with this guy and meet him at lan and stuff, but its difficult to communicate with him when hes never really sober and tries to treat his issues with meds and drinking, the next time I get to talk to him when hes sober I'm going to try my best to have him understand that we want him in the team but he needs to change these things for it to work out.

I had fun playing the official regardless, it was cool to be able to somewhat compete with them and get some rounds in regardless of how puoskari was playing. My team is gonna be around for a long time hopefully and we are still focused on trying to improve and compete at the top! :D

This thread makes me so sad, Puoskari is a lovely guy but he has this tendency to try to open up to the world or whatever when hes on something, in my opinion its worse when he gets this encouragement from some people on here.

I think this kind of issues is something you need to figure out and realize yourself rather than have some videogame forum trying to fix your shit.

I think my team is pretty decided on not playing with him, but some people in the team don't think its a good idea to cut him at all.
I want to keep playing with this guy and meet him at lan and stuff, but its difficult to communicate with him when hes never really sober and tries to treat his issues with meds and drinking, the next time I get to talk to him when hes sober I'm going to try my best to have him understand that we want him in the team but he needs to change these things for it to work out.

I had fun playing the official regardless, it was cool to be able to somewhat compete with them and get some rounds in regardless of how puoskari was playing. My team is gonna be around for a long time hopefully and we are still focused on trying to improve and compete at the top! :D
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#81
0 Frags +

honest to god even if puoskari has drug problems he is the nicest guy this game ever witnessed, also WHO THE FUCK CARES

honest to god even if puoskari has drug problems he is the nicest guy this game ever witnessed, also WHO THE FUCK CARES
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#82
14 Frags +
MILKy_honest to god even if puoskari has drug problems he is the nicest guy this game ever witnessed, also WHO THE FUCK CARES

We care cuz that boy might die

[quote=MILKy_]honest to god even if puoskari has drug problems he is the nicest guy this game ever witnessed, also WHO THE FUCK CARES[/quote]

We care cuz that boy might die
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