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#631
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THEBILLDOZERMagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?
I didn't, and I wasn't going to waste my vote by going third party insteadDr_HeinzTHEBILLDOZERKeep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.Source??http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291759-poll-jill-stein-tied-with-harambe-trailing-deez-nutz-in-texas
I think Alfa had posted it earlier in the thread.
I don't know the hill very well. If they're a satirical news source then that's my bad.

http://www.snopes.com/harambe-15000-votes/

Chances are if you have a joke write-in they'll straight up toss out your ballot, which is why Vermin Supreme didn't get any votes in New Hampshire.

[quote=THEBILLDOZER][quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
I didn't, and I wasn't going to waste my vote by going third party instead
[quote=Dr_Heinz][quote=THEBILLDOZER]
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Source??[/quote]
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291759-poll-jill-stein-tied-with-harambe-trailing-deez-nutz-in-texas
I think Alfa had posted it earlier in the thread.
I don't know the hill very well. If they're a satirical news source then that's my bad.[/quote]

http://www.snopes.com/harambe-15000-votes/

Chances are if you have a joke write-in they'll straight up toss out your ballot, which is why Vermin Supreme didn't get any votes in New Hampshire.
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#632
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fahrenheitTHEBILLDOZERMagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?
I didn't, and I wasn't going to waste my vote by going third party insteadDr_HeinzTHEBILLDOZERKeep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.Source??http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291759-poll-jill-stein-tied-with-harambe-trailing-deez-nutz-in-texas
I think Alfa had posted it earlier in the thread.
I don't know the hill very well. If they're a satirical news source then that's my bad.

http://www.snopes.com/harambe-15000-votes/

Chances are if you have a joke write-in they'll straight up toss out your ballot, which is why Vermin Supreme didn't get any votes in New Hampshire.

Texas had a much larger voter turnout iirc in this election, some media sources were calling the race so close that Texas seemed to turn into a battleground state. However you still could have voted no problem for all of the other representatives in congress, just unchecking the presidential candidate. I know a number of people that did that since they knew that voting was important, but since they didn't like either candidate, left that part on their ballot unchecked. I believe the Senate race for seats was actually really close this time around, and had the Democrats gotten the majority, we'd most likely have another instance of legislative gridlock in Washington.

I could probably pull up some numbers to prove my point and show how some of those numbers can be influenced and changed to show different outcomes, but I have a lot of schoolwork to get done today and I'm certain that this was covered in my Political Science course that I'm taking this semester. Also there's the voter ID thing that some can complain is restricting people in states that have them, but I personally believe that it's meant for good means, but what's actually happening among those that can't vote due to this "restriction" is not who it was intended to target.

[quote=fahrenheit][quote=THEBILLDOZER][quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
I didn't, and I wasn't going to waste my vote by going third party instead
[quote=Dr_Heinz][quote=THEBILLDOZER]
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Source??[/quote]
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291759-poll-jill-stein-tied-with-harambe-trailing-deez-nutz-in-texas
I think Alfa had posted it earlier in the thread.
I don't know the hill very well. If they're a satirical news source then that's my bad.[/quote]

http://www.snopes.com/harambe-15000-votes/

Chances are if you have a joke write-in they'll straight up toss out your ballot, which is why Vermin Supreme didn't get any votes in New Hampshire.[/quote]

Texas had a much larger voter turnout iirc in this election, some media sources were calling the race so close that Texas seemed to turn into a battleground state. However you still could have voted no problem for all of the other representatives in congress, just unchecking the presidential candidate. I know a number of people that did that since they knew that voting was important, but since they didn't like either candidate, left that part on their ballot unchecked. I believe the Senate race for seats was actually really close this time around, and had the Democrats gotten the majority, we'd most likely have another instance of legislative gridlock in Washington.

I could probably pull up some numbers to prove my point and show how some of those numbers can be influenced and changed to show different outcomes, but I have a lot of schoolwork to get done today and I'm certain that this was covered in my Political Science course that I'm taking this semester. Also there's the voter ID thing that some can complain is restricting people in states that have them, but I personally believe that it's [b][u]meant[/u][/b] for good means, but what's actually happening among those that can't vote due to this "restriction" is not who it was intended to target.
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#633
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MagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?

Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything

[quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything
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#634
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Max_MagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything

Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.

[quote=Max_][quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything[/quote]
Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.
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#635
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.
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#636
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On the plus side Tump winning may help build some class consciousness and push us out of this identity politics cess pit.
When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.

On the plus side Tump winning may help build some class consciousness and push us out of this identity politics cess pit.
When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.
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#637
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crwMax_MagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything
Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.

People were already keeping an eye on states like Florida and even at the end of the election Pennsylvania. There is no doubt that Texas and California weren't changing which party they were giving their votes to this election

[quote=crw][quote=Max_][quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything[/quote]
Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.[/quote]
People were already keeping an eye on states like Florida and even at the end of the election Pennsylvania. There is no doubt that Texas and California weren't changing which party they were giving their votes to this election
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#638
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EmilioEstevezhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.

desecrating the american flag is the best possible way to show how you only want the best for your country
fuck those people

[quote=EmilioEstevez]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.[/quote]
desecrating the american flag is the best possible way to show how you only want the best for your country
fuck those people
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#639
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Max_crwMax_MagikarpTHEBILLDOZERMy dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything
Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.
People were already keeping an eye on states like Florida and even at the end of the election Pennsylvania. There is no doubt that Texas and California weren't changing which party they were giving their votes to this election

In Texas the Hispanic population is actually projected to pass the white population soon, so Texas isn't going to remain red forever

[quote=Max_][quote=crw][quote=Max_][quote=Magikarp][quote=THEBILLDOZER]My dad just texted me an essay about how I should be ashamed for not voting and that Texas had a ridiculously small voter turnout and should've been a major player in the election.
Keep in mind Harambe got more write ins than Jill Stein got votes in Texas.[/quote]
Why didn't you vote? Just wondering, didn't like any of the candidates?[/quote]
Also votes don't matter in certain states such as Texas and California where Texas has historically been Republican and California has hisotorically been Democratic.

I didn't vote becase my vote wouldn't have changed anything[/quote]
Penssylvania has been historically Democratic. Not anymore.[/quote]
People were already keeping an eye on states like Florida and even at the end of the election Pennsylvania. There is no doubt that Texas and California weren't changing which party they were giving their votes to this election[/quote]

In Texas the Hispanic population is actually projected to pass the white population soon, so Texas isn't going to remain red forever
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#640
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watching Karel De Gucht squirm on how this is a "black day for democracy" and crying about how the TTIP is dead is fucking glorious. Thank you so much, Joe, Steve, Bob, and Billy Bob Blow.
https://corporateeurope.org/revolvingdoorwatch/cases/karel-de-gucht

watching Karel De Gucht squirm on how this is a "black day for democracy" and crying about how the TTIP is dead is fucking glorious. Thank you so much, Joe, Steve, Bob, and Billy Bob Blow.
https://corporateeurope.org/revolvingdoorwatch/cases/karel-de-gucht
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#641
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sacwatching Karel De Gucht squirm on how this is a "black day for democracy" and crying about how the TTIP is dead is fucking glorious. Thank you so much, Joe, Steve, Bob, and Billy Bob Blow.
https://corporateeurope.org/revolvingdoorwatch/cases/karel-de-gucht

idk man watching Gwendolyn Rutten break down on live TV because 'americans still sexist' was tons better imo

[quote=sac]watching Karel De Gucht squirm on how this is a "black day for democracy" and crying about how the TTIP is dead is fucking glorious. Thank you so much, Joe, Steve, Bob, and Billy Bob Blow.
https://corporateeurope.org/revolvingdoorwatch/cases/karel-de-gucht[/quote]
idk man watching Gwendolyn Rutten break down on live TV because 'americans still sexist' was tons better imo
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#642
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIAjIByVgdk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIAjIByVgdk
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#643
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THEBILLDOZEREmilioEstevezhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.
desecrating the american flag is the best possible way to show how you only want the best for your country
fuck those people

It is ok to be upset with the current president-elect and to show your disappointment but actions like these, and crazy inflammatory reactions such as wanting to secede from the union are appalling and help NOBODY. It can't be stressed enough that whoever is our president we can't keep polarizing our nation and fighting amongst each other. This doesn't mean we can't argue amongst each other to find out what is best for our country but rather that we can't look at someone's views and reject all discussion and compromise. If we don't stay united than we will never make progress.

[quote=THEBILLDOZER][quote=EmilioEstevez]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lVb3Wj2hPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBquRAun1RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEF-ruKn_fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQJoKiMLRYs

The Mexican flags gets me every time. If you love Mexico so much why dont you go live there and stop shitting up the USA.[/quote]
desecrating the american flag is the best possible way to show how you only want the best for your country
fuck those people[/quote]

It is ok to be upset with the current president-elect and to show your disappointment but actions like these, and crazy inflammatory reactions such as wanting to secede from the union are appalling and help NOBODY. It can't be stressed enough that whoever is our president we can't keep polarizing our nation and fighting amongst each other. This doesn't mean we can't argue amongst each other to find out what is best for our country but rather that we can't look at someone's views and reject all discussion and compromise. If we don't stay united than we will never make progress.
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#644
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo
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#645
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool
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#646
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flatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high

[quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high
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#647
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flatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

these are the people who need to be deported to make the US great again, assuming this is real

[quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]
these are the people who need to be deported to make the US great again, assuming this is real
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#648
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Karlflatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool
these are the people who need to be deported to make the US great again, assuming this is real

r u being serious? lol

no like actually there are black people and muslim people who have probably lived here their whole life

????

[quote=Karl][quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]
these are the people who need to be deported to make the US great again, assuming this is real[/quote]
r u being serious? lol

no like actually there are black people and muslim people who have probably lived here their whole life

????
649
#649
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trippaflatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high

I'm sure some of these stories are fake. I'm sure some of them actually happened. The point shouldn't be to demonize Trump supporters. Not all (I have no idea how many so I don't want to suggest a proportion) of the people who voted for Trump are racist, or act like this.

The point is that Trump being elected both validates and normalizes the hateful rhetoric he used during his campaign as "acceptable" in the eyes of many. This, for me, is one of the most disheartening aspects of his success, and while surely some of these stories are false, the ones that are real are proof of this effect.

[quote=trippa][quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high[/quote]
I'm sure some of these stories are fake. I'm sure some of them actually happened. The point shouldn't be to demonize Trump supporters. Not all (I have no idea how many so I don't want to suggest a proportion) of the people who voted for Trump are racist, or act like this.

The point is that Trump being elected both validates and normalizes the hateful rhetoric he used during his campaign as "acceptable" in the eyes of many. This, for me, is one of the most disheartening aspects of his success, and while surely some of these stories are false, the ones that are real are proof of this effect.
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#650
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flatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

Most of these sound extremely made up

yeah im totally sure someone pulled a knife on you on a campus bus and nobody did anything about it

[quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]

Most of these sound extremely made up

yeah im totally sure someone pulled a knife on you on a campus bus and nobody did anything about it
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#651
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trippaflatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high

I don't doubt that, but at the same time not all of them are fake (what a surprise)

I have friends at NYU MSA who posted the vandalism on their door to Facebook/Snapchat
I have friends at Wellesley and Babson who saw/know the two Babson morons harassing Wellesley students

There's no need to demonize supporters, but it's also ridiculous to assume that there's no lack of shitheads that voted for him as well. Most people don't give a fuck about the normal voters, it's the few dangerous ones that everyone is worried about.

[quote=trippa][quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]

the amount of fake stories being made up to demonize trump supporters is at an all time high[/quote]

I don't doubt that, but at the same time not all of them are fake (what a surprise)

I have friends at NYU MSA who posted the vandalism on their door to Facebook/Snapchat
I have friends at Wellesley and Babson who saw/know the two Babson morons harassing Wellesley students

There's no need to demonize supporters, but it's also ridiculous to assume that there's no lack of shitheads that voted for him as well. Most people don't give a fuck about the normal voters, it's the few dangerous ones that everyone is worried about.
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#652
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CitricThe point is that Trump being elected both validates and normalizes the hateful rhetoric he used during his campaign as "acceptable". This is one of the most disheartening parts of his success, and while surely some of these stories are false, the ones that are real are proof of this effect.

Only because the liberal media spent the last 6 months painting him as the second coming of Hitler. There are millions of melodramatic liberals in America who really think Trump is about to send right wing death squads to exterminate them.

For example heres a screengrab of how The Daily Show covered Trump supporters on the very night of the election
https://puu.sh/sdL0n/7541344c12.jpg

[quote=Citric]
The point is that Trump being elected both validates and normalizes the hateful rhetoric he used during his campaign as "acceptable". This is one of the most disheartening parts of his success, and while surely some of these stories are false, the ones that are real are proof of this effect.[/quote]

Only because the liberal media spent the last 6 months painting him as the second coming of Hitler. There are millions of melodramatic liberals in America who really think Trump is about to send right wing death squads to exterminate them.

For example heres a screengrab of how The Daily Show covered Trump supporters on the very night of the election
https://puu.sh/sdL0n/7541344c12.jpg
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#653
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/david-perdue-on-trump-100-days/index.html

http://etsuri.com/articles/1403201

make America great again, starting with the environment!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/david-perdue-on-trump-100-days/index.html

http://etsuri.com/articles/1403201

make America great again, starting with the environment!!!
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#654
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flatlinehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

cool

Let's not act like hate doesn't come from both sides, especially since Hillary supporters are protesting the fact that Trump won fairly in the democratic system by vandalising New Orleans, also considering we know how much sjw nutcases love to create fake stories for attention and to support their political agenda 90% or more of these stories are probably fake.

[quote=flatline]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

cool[/quote]
http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

cool

Let's not act like hate doesn't come from both sides, especially since Hillary supporters are protesting the fact that Trump won fairly in the democratic system by vandalising New Orleans, also considering we know how much sjw nutcases love to create fake stories for attention and to support their political agenda 90% or more of these stories are probably fake.
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#655
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Angry_RockTrump won fairly in the democratic system

http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png

[quote=Angry_Rock]Trump won fairly in the democratic system [/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png
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#656
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16jacobjAngry_RockTrump won fairly in the democratic system
http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.

[quote=16jacobj][quote=Angry_Rock]Trump won fairly in the democratic system [/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png[/quote]

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.
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#657
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fahrenheit16jacobjAngry_RockTrump won fairly in the democratic system
http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.

that's a myth, the electoral college was designed to prop up southern landed elites who owned slaves

last time I checked the poor rural black people living in the south aren't exactly benefiting from the electoral college

at the end of the day 1 vote should be 1 vote, period

[quote=fahrenheit][quote=16jacobj][quote=Angry_Rock]Trump won fairly in the democratic system [/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png[/quote]

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.[/quote]

that's a myth, the electoral college was designed to prop up southern landed elites who owned slaves

last time I checked the poor rural black people living in the south aren't exactly benefiting from the electoral college

at the end of the day 1 vote should be 1 vote, period
658
#658
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https://i.sli.mg/tMMnzn.jpg

[img]https://i.sli.mg/tMMnzn.jpg[/img]
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#659
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mustardoverlordfahrenheit16jacobjAngry_RockTrump won fairly in the democratic system
http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.

that's a myth, the electoral college was designed to prop up southern landed elites who owned slaves

last time I checked the poor rural black people living in the south aren't exactly benefiting from the electoral college

at the end of the day 1 vote should be 1 vote, period

you don't understand what a the point of a republic is do you my dude
pure democracy is just mob rule which is bad

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=fahrenheit][quote=16jacobj][quote=Angry_Rock]Trump won fairly in the democratic system [/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/BG8KmSp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Q7LYobQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/BLOZnx6.png[/quote]

That's the point of the electoral college.
If it were up to the popular vote the major counties in the US would always decide who the president was and completely fuck people living in rural communities.[/quote]

that's a myth, the electoral college was designed to prop up southern landed elites who owned slaves

last time I checked the poor rural black people living in the south aren't exactly benefiting from the electoral college

at the end of the day 1 vote should be 1 vote, period[/quote]
you don't understand what a the point of a republic is do you my dude
pure democracy is just mob rule which is bad
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#660
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SearchlightdollarlayerThere is no such thing as jobs that "American's don't want to do." Just like any job market in the free world if a job is shit and no one wants it then they raise wages until someone wants it, or find another way to solve the problem (e.g. build a robot or automate the work). Case and point.... Last I checked cows were mostly milked by machine in this country....
So you're admitting that the whole deportation thing isn't actually about freeing up jobs for American workers. Because all it'll do is make the business that relied on them close down.

I do not believe that there are American businesses that are relying on an illegal workforce so heavily that if they are removed that they can not hire legitimate legal American's to do the work. All large corporations are regularly audited in multiple ways. The illegal workers are primarily working in smaller businesses and many of them either for cash payments, or are using or borrowing someone elses ID.

We currently have around a 10% unemployment rate. The gov says 5% but those numbers are just fabricated because they consider people that give up looking for work as people that are out of the work force and no longer count them. We have plenty of workers in this country to fill the positions that illegals occupy. And if we don't, and a company can prove we don't have enough or don't have people with the needed skill sets for a job position, well there are special visas for bringing people in, in these situations.

The best thing we can do as a country is employ more American's that are currently on welfare. It saves the gov money, increases domestic production, increases tax revenue, decreases poverty which in turn decreases crime and violence, which in turn decreases the amount of policing that needs to be done etc.

[quote=Searchlight][quote=dollarlayer]
There is no such thing as jobs that "American's don't want to do." Just like any job market in the free world if a job is shit and no one wants it then they raise wages until someone wants it, or find another way to solve the problem (e.g. build a robot or automate the work). Case and point.... Last I checked cows were mostly milked by machine in this country....[/quote]

So you're admitting that the whole deportation thing isn't actually about freeing up jobs for American workers. Because all it'll do is make the business that relied on them close down.[/quote]

I do not believe that there are American businesses that are relying on an illegal workforce so heavily that if they are removed that they can not hire legitimate legal American's to do the work. All large corporations are regularly audited in multiple ways. The illegal workers are primarily working in smaller businesses and many of them either for cash payments, or are using or borrowing someone elses ID.

We currently have around a 10% unemployment rate. The gov says 5% but those numbers are just fabricated because they consider people that give up looking for work as people that are out of the work force and no longer count them. We have plenty of workers in this country to fill the positions that illegals occupy. And if we don't, and a company can prove we don't have enough or don't have people with the needed skill sets for a job position, well there are special visas for bringing people in, in these situations.

The best thing we can do as a country is employ more American's that are currently on welfare. It saves the gov money, increases domestic production, increases tax revenue, decreases poverty which in turn decreases crime and violence, which in turn decreases the amount of policing that needs to be done etc.
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