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How to Make Videos for TF2
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#61
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Looking to make a few min vid of myself b4 i52. Don't want anything special, no smooths or anything, dumb slomo, or whatever; just going to make a "reel" I suppose. Looking for fastest, most efficient way to do this while preserving quality. Aiming to be something like 6 mins, though will probably be a bit less. I'm also wondering what this srcdemo business is all about.

Looking to make a few min vid of myself b4 i52. Don't want anything special, no smooths or anything, dumb slomo, or whatever; just going to make a "reel" I suppose. Looking for fastest, most efficient way to do this while preserving quality. Aiming to be something like 6 mins, though will probably be a bit less. I'm also wondering what this srcdemo business is all about.
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#62
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I have no experience with srcdemo, so I can't be of any help there. Hopefully someone comes along that can help.

Quickest way I can imagine is just the steps I posted minus the stuff you don't want to do. Record through whatever recording tool is used now (using #x720/1080 for your resolution), stitch together the .tgas in vdub, then stitch together those .avi files in Vegas.

I have no experience with srcdemo, so I can't be of any help there. Hopefully someone comes along that can help.

Quickest way I can imagine is just the steps I posted minus the stuff you don't want to do. Record through whatever recording tool is used now (using #x720/1080 for your resolution), stitch together the .tgas in vdub, then stitch together those .avi files in Vegas.
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#63
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I'll see how I go.

http://puu.sh/a4RPR/d5d27f37fa.png

the hunt begins

I'll see how I go.
[img]http://puu.sh/a4RPR/d5d27f37fa.png[/IMG] the hunt begins
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#64
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Well, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.

Well, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.
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BeaterWell, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.

I've never had any of the problems you described using this method. Although you can do it with Fraps, which will cut out a step, the quality will likely suffer. Up to you.

[quote=Beater]Well, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.[/quote]

I've never had any of the problems you described using this method. Although you can do it with Fraps, which will cut out a step, the quality will likely suffer. Up to you.
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yukiLooking to make a few min vid of myself b4 i52. Don't want anything special, no smooths or anything, dumb slomo, or whatever; just going to make a "reel" I suppose. Looking for fastest, most efficient way to do this while preserving quality. Aiming to be something like 6 mins, though will probably be a bit less. I'm also wondering what this srcdemo business is all about.

It sounds like what you need is a vdm file. I'm not sure if Kirby explained this in the original post, so I'm just gonna do a quick explanation here. You chose demo files and the start and end ticks to add to the vdm file. The vdm file will automatically open and start the demos from your listed ticks. This is the easiest and most efficient way to record large amounts of frags, and it fits your needs perfectly since you just want a fragshow basically. You can create vdm files within lawena and then just open them like a regular demo. Hit record, and then come back later and it should be done. How long that takes will depend on the amount of frags and the quality you're recording in as well as what you're storing the files on. If you do 720p 120fps to an SSD it should be pretty quick and still look good. If you really wanna be a quality freak you can do 1080 and 240 or even 480, although personally I think 480 is complete overkill. You can just compile the entire thing in virtualdub afterwards and slap it in Sony Vegas afterwards. If you record in over 60 fps I would recommend turning on forced resample, it will make it look smoother and better.

If you need help add me on steam because I don't look at tf.tv that often.

[quote=yuki]Looking to make a few min vid of myself b4 i52. Don't want anything special, no smooths or anything, dumb slomo, or whatever; just going to make a "reel" I suppose. Looking for fastest, most efficient way to do this while preserving quality. Aiming to be something like 6 mins, though will probably be a bit less. I'm also wondering what this srcdemo business is all about.[/quote]

It sounds like what you need is a vdm file. I'm not sure if Kirby explained this in the original post, so I'm just gonna do a quick explanation here. You chose demo files and the start and end ticks to add to the vdm file. The vdm file will automatically open and start the demos from your listed ticks. This is the easiest and most efficient way to record large amounts of frags, and it fits your needs perfectly since you just want a fragshow basically. You can create vdm files within lawena and then just open them like a regular demo. Hit record, and then come back later and it should be done. How long that takes will depend on the amount of frags and the quality you're recording in as well as what you're storing the files on. If you do 720p 120fps to an SSD it should be pretty quick and still look good. If you really wanna be a quality freak you can do 1080 and 240 or even 480, although personally I think 480 is complete overkill. You can just compile the entire thing in virtualdub afterwards and slap it in Sony Vegas afterwards. If you record in over 60 fps I would recommend turning on forced resample, it will make it look smoother and better.

If you need help add me on steam because I don't look at tf.tv that often.
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#67
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might want to add that you can record manually while using lawena using the "startmovie" command in console, just in case someone can't get the bind to work or w/e. Setting framerate with host_framerate as well.

might want to add that you can record manually while using lawena using the "startmovie" command in console, just in case someone can't get the bind to work or w/e. Setting framerate with host_framerate as well.
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RigelBeaterWell, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.
I've never had any of the problems you described using this method. Although you can do it with Fraps, which will cut out a step, the quality will likely suffer. Up to you.

Maybe my version of fraps is just shitty or something. When I record it will usually start out at 60 fps, but then after a couple of seconds it will jump down to 30, which sometimes causes some lag. Other times it will simply dip down and record at 15-20 fps, and the only fix is to go back and re-record it. So yeah, it's super fast but the quality isn't the best, and it's 30 fps which means you can't use slow-mo. These videos were all made in about 3 hours, from start of recording to uploaded to youtube.

[quote=Rigel][quote=Beater]Well, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.[/quote]

I've never had any of the problems you described using this method. Although you can do it with Fraps, which will cut out a step, the quality will likely suffer. Up to you.[/quote]

Maybe my version of fraps is just shitty or something. When I record it will usually start out at 60 fps, but then after a couple of seconds it will jump down to 30, which sometimes causes some lag. Other times it will simply dip down and record at 15-20 fps, and the only fix is to go back and re-record it. So yeah, it's super fast but the quality isn't the best, and it's 30 fps which means you can't use slow-mo. [url=https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvEdPEFgYOe8aTkf7EOtBSPFLINfw7Xk7]These videos[/url] were all made in about 3 hours, from start of recording to uploaded to youtube.
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#69
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Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.

Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.
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Teapot_Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.

please tell me you meant 1.6gb. 16mb is almost a high resolution desktop background (i.e. it's 1 frame)

[quote=Teapot_]Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.[/quote]

please tell me you meant 1.6gb. 16mb is almost a high resolution desktop background (i.e. it's 1 frame)
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#71
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Does ScrDemo2 not work in Windows 8.1? I can't get it to work at all, and neither will Lawena.

Does ScrDemo2 not work in Windows 8.1? I can't get it to work at all, and neither will Lawena.
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ComangliaTeapot_Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.
please tell me you meant 1.6gb. 16mb is almost a high resolution desktop background (i.e. it's 1 frame)

Nope, 16mb, it was a 20s clip to be fair.

[quote=Comanglia][quote=Teapot_]Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.[/quote]

please tell me you meant 1.6gb. 16mb is almost a high resolution desktop background (i.e. it's 1 frame)[/quote]

Nope, 16mb, it was a 20s clip to be fair.
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#73
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Not_MatlockDoes ScrDemo2 not work in Windows 8.1? I can't get it to work at all, and neither will Lawena.

What is not working?

I'm gonna take a stab and say it's a problem with Dokan Mounter.
Dokan Mounter is what SrcDemo2 uses as a virtual partition to directly write to a given directory instead of writing and having to move and delete the file. Unfortunately Dokan Mounter only is supported up to windows 7. If Dokan mounter can install properly, make sure it's running. Check in "services.msc".

Also Do you have Java installed?

Msi afterburner is a superior option to fraps in all ways.
-Hardware H.264 encoder support for Nvidia/AMD/Intel (I can get 120fps LIVE recordings using intel's Quicksync)
-VFW encoders (lagarith/UT Video/x264vfw)
-AVI/Mkv container support
-Records audio from up to two sources
-Option for Mixed or separate audio tracks
-Does not lock game FPS during recording
-Entirely Free

[quote=Not_Matlock]Does ScrDemo2 not work in Windows 8.1? I can't get it to work at all, and neither will Lawena.[/quote]
What is not working?

I'm gonna take a stab and say it's a problem with Dokan Mounter.
Dokan Mounter is what SrcDemo2 uses as a virtual partition to directly write to a given directory instead of writing and having to move and delete the file. Unfortunately Dokan Mounter only is supported up to windows 7. If Dokan mounter can install properly, make sure it's running. Check in "services.msc".

Also Do you have Java installed?

[b]Msi afterburner is a superior option to fraps[/b] in all ways.
-Hardware H.264 encoder support for Nvidia/AMD/Intel (I can get 120fps LIVE recordings using intel's Quicksync)
-VFW encoders (lagarith/UT Video/x264vfw)
-AVI/Mkv container support
-Records audio from up to two sources
-Option for Mixed or separate audio tracks
-Does not lock game FPS during recording
-Entirely Free
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#74
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I'm having the same problem as EdLolington if anyone can help me out. The video AND audio are both a choppy mess. I'll see if I can get an example uploaded to YouTube.

EDIT: So I don't really have the time to upload an uncompressed 9GB file to YouTube or zippyshare or the like, but I think you still get the idea.

I'm having the same problem as EdLolington if anyone can help me out. The video AND audio are both a choppy mess. I'll see if I can get an example uploaded to YouTube.

EDIT: So I don't really have the time to upload an uncompressed 9GB file to YouTube or zippyshare or the like, but I think you still get the idea.
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#75
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One problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?

One problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?
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IcyWindOne problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?

After Effects

[quote=IcyWind]One problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?[/quote]
After Effects
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:D thanks

:D thanks
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Teapot_Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a drastic hit to the quality.

Really? That's actually weird. I've never had any problems in terms of raw quality; only YouTube quality.

IcyWindOne problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?

I've always had to deal with the occasional Vegas lag, but that's what I get for not learning how to use another software. You're encoding each clip before putting it into Vegas? Might be a silly question, but do you encode a final time after rendering the final result?

BeaterWell, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.

I cannot suggest this. Every FRAPs experience I've had has been a total mess. Though, if you don't mind sacrificing quality in order to get it done quicker, this is probably your best bet, aside from just not uploading anything.

[quote=Teapot_]Is there another program which compresses at 1080p? The settings you suggested took my 2.2gb clip to 16mb, obviously with a [b]drastic hit to the quality.[/b][/quote]

Really? That's actually weird. I've never had any problems in terms of raw quality; only YouTube quality.

[quote=IcyWind]One problem I usually have is using the avi I get from virtualdub in vegas, as the filesize usually makes vegas lag and on most occasions crash. Encoding each clip to edit with ends up in the quality being kinda bad after the final render, though that might just be my settings. Any ideas?[/quote]

I've always had to deal with the occasional Vegas lag, but that's what I get for not learning how to use another software. You're encoding each clip before putting it into Vegas? Might be a silly question, but do you encode a final time after rendering the final result?

[quote=Beater]Well, the quickest way is definitely to launch TF2 using lawena recording tool and then doing the actual recording using fraps. Main issues using this method are fps drops and lag spikes. You also can't listen to music, or have any other noise or overlays going on in the background, so things get boring.[/quote]

I cannot suggest this. Every FRAPs experience I've had has been a total mess. Though, if you don't mind sacrificing quality in order to get it done quicker, this is probably your best bet, aside from just not uploading anything.
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#79
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Followed all the instructions to the letter at least 5 times now, and yet I'm still getting a framerate of 12 fps without fail even after syncing it to the audio length.

The audio also sounds like a typewriter being kicked down a flight of concrete steps.

It's not exactly ideal. Any suggestions?

Followed all the instructions to the letter at least 5 times now, and yet I'm still getting a framerate of 12 fps without fail even after syncing it to the audio length.

The audio also sounds like a typewriter being kicked down a flight of concrete steps.

It's not exactly ideal. Any suggestions?
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#80
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Question how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?

Question how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?
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#81
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hashtagchanFollowed all the instructions to the letter at least 5 times now, and yet I'm still getting a framerate of 12 fps without fail even after syncing it to the audio length.

The audio also sounds like a typewriter being kicked down a flight of concrete steps.

It's not exactly ideal. Any suggestions?

After virtual dub, normal video players can't really play it. Encode it or do sony vegas/after effects and encode it.

[quote=hashtagchan]Followed all the instructions to the letter at least 5 times now, and yet I'm still getting a framerate of 12 fps without fail even after syncing it to the audio length.

The audio also sounds like a typewriter being kicked down a flight of concrete steps.

It's not exactly ideal. Any suggestions?[/quote]
After virtual dub, normal video players can't really play it. Encode it or do sony vegas/after effects and encode it.
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etherQuestion how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?

cl_drawhud 0,
Killfeed only in Lawena

[quote=ether]Question how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?[/quote]
cl_drawhud 0,
Killfeed only in Lawena
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etherQuestion how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?

If you use a lawena hud (kill notices only, I know that one works) it removes them.

[quote=ether]Question how do you remove the giant names on the player pov that appears on stv demos?[/quote]
If you use a lawena hud (kill notices only, I know that one works) it removes them.
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I have a problem - I'm trying to record a clip that's around ~20 seconds long, but whenever I render it (720fps in Srcdemo2) I get a 12 second audio file; the audio just cuts out after that. Is there any way to keep video and audio in sync?

I have a problem - I'm trying to record a clip that's around ~20 seconds long, but whenever I render it (720fps in Srcdemo2) I get a 12 second audio file; the audio just cuts out after that. Is there any way to keep video and audio in sync?
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#85
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Did your remember to flush the audio cache before deactivating srcdemo2 and use the correct host_framerate? I've found that it doesn't automatically flush the cache anymore, which is fairly annoying.

Did your remember to flush the audio cache before deactivating srcdemo2 and use the correct host_framerate? I've found that it doesn't automatically flush the cache anymore, which is fairly annoying.
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#86
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Thanks Waldo, I didn't realise that I had to flush srcdemo2 manually! I found a solution though; I rendered the video and the audio separately. I think the source recorder is bugged in that recording for an extended period of time will desync the sound.

Thanks Waldo, I didn't realise that I had to flush srcdemo2 manually! I found a solution though; I rendered the video and the audio separately. I think the source recorder is bugged in that recording for an extended period of time will desync the sound.
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#87
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Does anyone have an updated or working version of srcdemo2?

edit: Never mind. I didn't realize I needed to download extra stuff for it to work.

Does anyone have an updated or working version of srcdemo2?

[b]edit:[/b] Never mind. I didn't realize I needed to download extra stuff for it to work.
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#88
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Not sure if this is the best place to put this, but with all the talk of Fraps/MSI Afterburner compared to Source Recorder I thought I would chime in with what is, IMO, the easiest way to get a good enough quality video on Youtube in the shortest amount of time.

I've been toying around with using OBS and the NVENC encoder to record TF2. NVENC uses the dedicated H264 encoder, included on most Nvidia GPUs produced after March 2012 (check the for Shadowplay compatibility as Shadowplay uses NVENC to record), to record high quality compressed video with basically zero impact on game performance. This means I can load up TF2, exec a high quality autoexec with exaggerated motion blur settings, play a demo, then record the clip and be done. After those few steps, I'll have a nice little H264 compressed 1080p 60fps video of beautiful max settings TF2.

Also I should note that this method would work with any recording software that utilizes NVENC, Intel's quicksync, or whatever AMD has for their hardware accelerated encoding solution. I used OBS because it's the most configurable.

Here's an example of something that took about 5 minutes to record and upload (watch in 60 fps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LZMwz6x10M

Not sure if this is the best place to put this, but with all the talk of Fraps/MSI Afterburner compared to Source Recorder I thought I would chime in with what is, IMO, the easiest way to get a [i]good enough[/i] quality video on Youtube in the [i]shortest[/i] amount of time.

I've been toying around with using OBS and the NVENC encoder to record TF2. NVENC uses the dedicated H264 encoder, included on most Nvidia GPUs produced after March 2012 ([url=http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/system-requirements]check the for Shadowplay compatibility[/url] as Shadowplay uses NVENC to record), to record high quality [u]compressed[/u] video with basically zero impact on game performance. This means I can load up TF2, exec a high quality autoexec with exaggerated motion blur settings, play a demo, then record the clip and be done. After those few steps, I'll have a nice little H264 compressed 1080p 60fps video of beautiful max settings TF2.

Also I should note that this method would work with any recording software that utilizes NVENC, Intel's quicksync, or whatever AMD has for their hardware accelerated encoding solution. I used OBS because it's the most configurable.

Here's an example of something that took about 5 minutes to record and upload (watch in 60 fps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LZMwz6x10M
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#89
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toothNot sure if this is the best place to put this, but with all the talk of Fraps/MSI Afterburner compared to Source Recorder I thought I would chime in with what is, IMO, the easiest way to get a good enough quality video on Youtube in the shortest amount of time.

I've been toying around with using OBS and the NVENC encoder to record TF2. NVENC uses the dedicated H264 encoder, included on most Nvidia GPUs produced after March 2012 (check the for Shadowplay compatibility as Shadowplay uses NVENC to record), to record high quality compressed video with basically zero impact on game performance. This means I can load up TF2, exec a high quality autoexec with exaggerated motion blur settings, play a demo, then record the clip and be done. After those few steps, I'll have a nice little H264 compressed 1080p 60fps video of beautiful max settings TF2.

Also I should note that this method would work with any recording software that utilizes NVENC, Intel's quicksync, or whatever AMD has for their hardware accelerated encoding solution. I used OBS because it's the most configurable.

Here's an example of something that took about 5 minutes to record and upload (watch in 60 fps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LZMwz6x10M

So I've tried to do the same thing that you have, but my vid looks like absolute dog shit. This is what it looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTnruH2tt48&feature=youtu.be That is 60 fps, 25000 bps using OBS and NVENC with the config you linked. I also would think my computer is good enough to run the game at high setting and 60 fps. This is the first time I try anything more complicated than recording a demo with fraps...

These are some of my specs:
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 4 GB
8 GB RAM
Intel Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz

I'd love to get some help as I really wanna make some videos with decent quality in a somewhat simple way.

EDIT: I now did it the way kirby explained in his post.

[quote=tooth]Not sure if this is the best place to put this, but with all the talk of Fraps/MSI Afterburner compared to Source Recorder I thought I would chime in with what is, IMO, the easiest way to get a [i]good enough[/i] quality video on Youtube in the [i]shortest[/i] amount of time.

I've been toying around with using OBS and the NVENC encoder to record TF2. NVENC uses the dedicated H264 encoder, included on most Nvidia GPUs produced after March 2012 ([url=http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/system-requirements]check the for Shadowplay compatibility[/url] as Shadowplay uses NVENC to record), to record high quality [u]compressed[/u] video with basically zero impact on game performance. This means I can load up TF2, exec a high quality autoexec with exaggerated motion blur settings, play a demo, then record the clip and be done. After those few steps, I'll have a nice little H264 compressed 1080p 60fps video of beautiful max settings TF2.

Also I should note that this method would work with any recording software that utilizes NVENC, Intel's quicksync, or whatever AMD has for their hardware accelerated encoding solution. I used OBS because it's the most configurable.

Here's an example of something that took about 5 minutes to record and upload (watch in 60 fps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LZMwz6x10M[/quote]

So I've tried to do the same thing that you have, but my vid looks like absolute dog shit. This is what it looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTnruH2tt48&feature=youtu.be That is 60 fps, 25000 bps using OBS and NVENC with the config you linked. I also would think my computer is good enough to run the game at high setting and 60 fps. This is the first time I try anything more complicated than recording a demo with fraps...

These are some of my specs:
Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 4 GB
8 GB RAM
Intel Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz

I'd love to get some help as I really wanna make some videos with decent quality in a somewhat simple way.

EDIT: I now did it the way kirby explained in his post.
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#90
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The 'customize template' option is grayed out for me. Any ideas? I use a cracked Sony Vegas Pro 11.0.

EDIT: nvm, sorted it out

The 'customize template' option is grayed out for me. Any ideas? I use a cracked Sony Vegas Pro 11.0.

EDIT: nvm, sorted it out
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