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#271
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Nub_Danishsaying you have to be in a circlejerk to get places is like saying theirs an elo hell. It's like ya it certainly helps but like if your good and you stick with it long enough it doesn't really matter

This entire chain started because someone said "Everyone in invite doesn't know everyone in invite because tf2 is a circlejerk community that doesn't let anyone in, everyone in invite knows everyone in invite because this game's competitive community has consisted of the same handful of players for 9 years" and I pointed out that the kind of person who wouldn't fit into the TF2 community wouldn't stick around long enough to make it to Invite, so you wouldn't see many out-of-circlejerk invite players. The result is that everyone in invite knows each other because the people who didn't get to know the invite players didn't make it to invite because of half a dozen reasons.

I don't think circlejerks are all that necessary to improve, but playing this game if you don't get along with anyone in the community is gonna make you bitter af and odds are you won't enjoy it enough to actually get to invite. That makes it different from Elo Hell because there's a direct cause between the player and the position (being shit and being stuck), whereas being circlejerkless is more of a correlation between lack of friends and lack of opportunity. Without changing your personality, there's no real way to practice your way into a high value friendship.

[quote=Nub_Danish]saying you have to be in a circlejerk to get places is like saying theirs an elo hell. It's like ya it certainly helps but like if your good and you stick with it long enough it doesn't really matter[/quote]
This entire chain started because someone said "Everyone in invite doesn't know everyone in invite because tf2 is a circlejerk community that doesn't let anyone in, everyone in invite knows everyone in invite because this game's competitive community has consisted of the same handful of players for 9 years" and I pointed out that the kind of person who wouldn't fit into the TF2 community wouldn't stick around long enough to make it to Invite, so you wouldn't see many out-of-circlejerk invite players. The result is that everyone in invite knows each other because the people who didn't get to know the invite players didn't make it to invite because of half a dozen reasons.

I don't think circlejerks are all that necessary to improve, but playing this game if you don't get along with anyone in the community is gonna make you bitter af and odds are you won't enjoy it enough to actually get to invite. That makes it different from Elo Hell because there's a direct cause between the player and the position (being shit and being stuck), whereas being circlejerkless is more of a correlation between lack of friends and lack of opportunity. Without changing your personality, there's no real way to practice your way into a high value friendship.
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#272
14 Frags +

everyone on team noob butt me..

everyone on team noob butt me..
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#273
22 Frags +

IMO pugs are way more fun than actually playing on a team, also playing with people you like is more important than skill (not saying you can't have both)

IMO pugs are way more fun than actually playing on a team, also playing with people you like is more important than skill (not saying you can't have both)
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#274
-10 Frags +
Corsalol you're slowly arguing away from your root point, which was that circle jerks are the prime way to get to invite.

edit: exactly what connor said

my root point was

eeethe301stspartanwhat about the people in open/IM who could've been invite level in a year but never meshed into the circlejerks very well and dropped the game? Maybe you have the causality backwards and the only people who stick around long enough to make it to invite are people who have friends in invite

meaning:
the kind of person who ends up in a circlejerk of the TF2 community is also the kind of person who'll stick around longer and therefore get better at the game. I never said circlejerking was the best way to get into invite, I said that a player who circlejerks is more likely to get into invite than one who doesn't.

I was kind of upset you were taking me seriously earlier but now I don't feel bad because you really misunderstood what I was saying.

[quote=Corsa]
lol you're slowly arguing away from your root point, which was that circle jerks are the prime way to get to invite.

edit: exactly what connor said[/quote]

my root point was

[quote=eee][quote=the301stspartan]
[/quote]
what about the people in open/IM who could've been invite level in a year but never meshed into the circlejerks very well and dropped the game? Maybe you have the causality backwards and the only people who stick around long enough to make it to invite are people who have friends in invite[/quote]
meaning:
the kind of person who ends up in a circlejerk of the TF2 community is also the kind of person who'll stick around longer and therefore get better at the game. I never said circlejerking was the best way to get into invite, I said that a player who circlejerks is more likely to get into invite than one who doesn't.

I was kind of upset you were taking me seriously earlier but now I don't feel bad because you really misunderstood what I was saying.
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#275
1 Frags +

elliot ur a dummy

elliot ur a dummy
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#276
28 Frags +

most circlejerks in IM make me want to kill my self

most circlejerks in IM make me want to kill my self
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#277
33 Frags +

my unpopular tf2 opinions:

  • eee is trolling the ever loving fuck out of you people and it's hilarious to watch
my unpopular tf2 opinions:

[list]
[*] eee is trolling the ever loving fuck out of you people and it's hilarious to watch
[/list]
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#278
63 Frags +

Spires are an awful point. Granary is fine. Metalworks is fine. Snakewater and gullywash are awful. Tri asked me about limiting gunboats to one but I told him it's his fault and too late. Soldiers can't aim anymore anyways. Gpit is bad and high variance. Game has awful hit reg. Talent pool in the game has evaporated. Matchmaking is a bust. The cevo split in s15 when we had main was such a fucktarded decision by idiots. Matchmaking is 2-3 years too late and is basically a lobby. Stickies were slightly overnerfed. Mge and dm these days is awful. I hate tf2 players.

Spires are an awful point. Granary is fine. Metalworks is fine. Snakewater and gullywash are awful. Tri asked me about limiting gunboats to one but I told him it's his fault and too late. Soldiers can't aim anymore anyways. Gpit is bad and high variance. Game has awful hit reg. Talent pool in the game has evaporated. Matchmaking is a bust. The cevo split in s15 when we had main was such a fucktarded decision by idiots. Matchmaking is 2-3 years too late and is basically a lobby. Stickies were slightly overnerfed. Mge and dm these days is awful. I hate tf2 players.
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#279
0 Frags +

Sunshine's Aight :/ Fun sometimes

Sunshine's Aight :/ Fun sometimes
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#280
2 Frags +

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#281
8 Frags +

blank why everytime u post I get sad

blank why everytime u post I get sad
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#282
25 Frags +
source but how is it a bust, just curioussourcei never played mm,
[quote=source] but how is it a bust, just curious[/quote]
[quote=source]i never played mm,[/quote]
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#283
-1 Frags +

Product is much less fun to watch than other maps because most teams seem to play it very similar ways,

Product is much less fun to watch than other maps because most teams seem to play it very similar ways,
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#284
6 Frags +

the more +frags you have you worse your post is in this thread

the more +frags you have you worse your post is in this thread
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#285
4 Frags +

6s players can be pretty arrogant
http://i.imgur.com/NAa5zRc.jpg

6s players can be pretty arrogant
http://i.imgur.com/NAa5zRc.jpg
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#286
8 Frags +

you're not wrong

you're not wrong
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#287
19 Frags +

I think the battle for 3rd/4th place in Invite over the last 3 or 4 seasons has been way more interesting to watch then the battle for 1st. I'm so sick of the grand finals being Froyo vs Ronin. Even when Ronin won it still wasn't all that interesting to me. I've begun to just try and predict who will get 3rd and 4th place because the fight for that spot is slightly more varied.

(sorry if this was already said I started skimming past posts when the intense internet argument began)

I think the battle for 3rd/4th place in Invite over the last 3 or 4 seasons has been way more interesting to watch then the battle for 1st. I'm so sick of the grand finals being Froyo vs Ronin. Even when Ronin won it still wasn't all that interesting to me. I've begun to just try and predict who will get 3rd and 4th place because the fight for that spot is [b][i]slightly[/i][/b] more varied.

(sorry if this was already said I started skimming past posts when the [u]intense[/u] internet argument began)
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#288
28 Frags +

shit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv

shit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv
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#289
24 Frags +
indecencyshit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv

cuck becoming a meme again is the worst part of the trump candidacy

[quote=indecency]shit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv[/quote]
cuck becoming a meme again is the worst part of the trump candidacy
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#290
17 Frags +
indecencyshit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv

I know. it's actually kinda cringe

[quote=indecency]shit like oofta and cuck and cringe and beef is some of the dumbest things ive ever heard become memes on tf.tv[/quote]

I know. it's actually kinda cringe
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#291
21 Frags +

aww the love and support in this thread is making me blush! ^_^

aww the love and support in this thread is making me blush! ^_^
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#292
-14 Frags +

mustardoverlord has good jumps

mustardoverlord has good jumps
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#293
52 Frags +

we're not in the factually incorrect opinions thread

we're not in the factually incorrect opinions thread
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#294
35 Frags +

b4nny is an ok guy he just needs to set his priorities straight

b4nny is an ok guy he just needs to set his priorities straight
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#295
5 Frags +

If you are not ctaping (in certain situations that call for distance/speed) you are playing soldier incorrectly. It's not that hard to learn and it makes a huge difference especially with ubers.

If you are not ctaping (in certain situations that call for distance/speed) you are playing soldier incorrectly. It's not that hard to learn and it makes a huge difference especially with ubers.
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#296
27 Frags +

this onna be the best of my tf2 carrier and i know it

this onna be the best of my tf2 carrier and i know it
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#297
-5 Frags +

i'm the best medic

i'm the best medic
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#298
0 Frags +

i like playing scout on metalworks

i like playing scout on metalworks
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#299
11 Frags +

scout is not the easiest class

scout is not the easiest class
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#300
24 Frags +

I think TLR was just trying to reenact Happy Gilmore, but everyone else missed the joke.

I think TLR was just trying to reenact Happy Gilmore, but everyone else missed the joke.
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