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ESEA-O S22 Happenings/Predictions
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#301
9 Frags +
couch_sitterBarring any rescheduling by teams or ringing for scrims, I am planning to cast the following matches this week over on my twitch channel

Just a note, while I may not watch casts live, I really enjoy going back and watching casts during my downtime or while I'm at work. Thank you for casting open, and to everyone who is doing open casting and coverage (loot, whyme, tery, etc). The weekly power rankings help me figure out what teams I should start scheduling scrims with, too :D

Open is where we're starting to develop the coordination and drive as individual players to progress, and coverage helps showcase new talent as well as give recognition to players newer to the scene. Every bit helps grow the scene!

[quote=couch_sitter]Barring any rescheduling by teams or ringing for scrims, I am planning to cast the following matches this week over on [url=https://www.twitch.tv/couch_sitter]my twitch channel[/url][/quote]

Just a note, while I may not watch casts live, I really enjoy going back and watching casts during my downtime or while I'm at work. Thank you for casting open, and to everyone who is doing open casting and coverage (loot, whyme, tery, etc). The weekly power rankings help me figure out what teams I should start scheduling scrims with, too :D

Open is where we're starting to develop the coordination and drive as individual players to progress, and coverage helps showcase new talent as well as give recognition to players newer to the scene. Every bit helps grow the scene!
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#302
7 Frags +
SpaceCadetowlWriting open power rankings is actually the worst and most thankless job on earth and anyone who has it in them to do it for more than 2 weeks in a row deserves much praise
Oddly enough I actually agree with owl about something.

Coming from someone who did power rankings a few times before, you should expect to weekly ruffle feathers or straight up piss people off no matter how nice you are in the write-ups.

The sad fact is that when most people think about "Power Rankings" it turns into a popularity contest where only the most noteworthy names or teams have any right to be included. My only advice on doing rankings is to have a specific criteria on how to rank teams. In my opinion, I based mostly everything I ranked on "Match Results" because in my mind they were the most important criteria from week to week.

Keep the writing going! There are a lot of people who appreciate writers but don''t respond in the threads. You usually only see the negative responses.

I think matches should be the standard but keep in mind this was literally the first week of open, and it's understandable that they pulled from logs. I know that in our case I was laggy for most of my scrims last week or we weren't playing and other teams might have issues too but that is, for the most part, not displayed in logs. Don't shit on writers for undervaluing teams or overvaluing teams it's their opinion and they have some logical reasoning behind it, they don't just spew out random crap(@milan and other salty players). I'm sure as the season goes on a lot of people giving open coverage will get a more accurate feeling of what teams will do best. Look at week one from last season https://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/esea-o-6s-s21-week-1-top-16-rankings/. There wasn't much to go off of and a lot of the teams didn't survive or did worse than expected.

TLDR Any attention is good attention and bitching about week one/two power rankings is stupid since a lot of teams haven't had teams grow or play.

[quote=SpaceCadet][quote=owl]Writing open power rankings is actually the worst and most thankless job on earth and anyone who has it in them to do it for more than 2 weeks in a row deserves much praise[/quote]

Oddly enough I actually agree with owl about something.

Coming from someone who did power rankings a few times before, you should expect to weekly ruffle feathers or straight up piss people off no matter how nice you are in the write-ups.

The sad fact is that when most people think about "Power Rankings" it turns into a popularity contest where only the most noteworthy names or teams have any right to be included. My only advice on doing rankings is to have a specific criteria on how to rank teams. In my opinion, I based mostly everything I ranked on "Match Results" because in my mind they were the most important criteria from week to week.

Keep the writing going! There are a lot of people who appreciate writers but don''t respond in the threads. You usually only see the negative responses.[/quote]

I think matches should be the standard but keep in mind this was literally the first week of open, and it's understandable that they pulled from logs. I know that in our case I was laggy for most of my scrims last week or we weren't playing and other teams might have issues too but that is, for the most part, not displayed in logs. Don't shit on writers for undervaluing teams or overvaluing teams it's their opinion and they have some logical reasoning behind it, they don't just spew out random crap(@milan and other salty players). I'm sure as the season goes on a lot of people giving open coverage will get a more accurate feeling of what teams will do best. Look at week one from last season https://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/esea-o-6s-s21-week-1-top-16-rankings/. There wasn't much to go off of and a lot of the teams didn't survive or did worse than expected.

TLDR Any attention is good attention and bitching about week one/two power rankings is stupid since a lot of teams haven't had teams grow or play.
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#303
8 Frags +

I'd rather have someone write open power rankings than nobody write open power rankings.
Whymeo ranking update when o_o

I'd rather have someone write open power rankings than nobody write open power rankings.
Whymeo ranking update when o_o
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#304
1 Frags +

He told me it would be today

He told me it would be today
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#305
12 Frags +

holy shit and I thought i had it rough in like s19 when i did open rankings, i can't imagine trying to write this season

hats off to you loot

also WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE CARE if someone doesn't think you're as good as you (think you) are, instead of bitching about it on tftv just play better and make them rethink their opinion

holy shit and I thought i had it rough in like s19 when i did open rankings, i can't imagine trying to write this season

hats off to you loot

also WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE CARE if someone doesn't think you're as good as you (think you) are, instead of bitching about it on tftv just play better and make them rethink their opinion
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#306
15 Frags +

Because its less effort to be a keyboard warrior then it is to actually get good.

Because its less effort to be a keyboard warrior then it is to actually get good.
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#307
12 Frags +

http://orig01.deviantart.net/7c1c/f/2015/090/8/a/bruh_git_gud_mlg_crankys_advice__by_mangledarobowitswag-d8ntbbb.png

[img]http://orig01.deviantart.net/7c1c/f/2015/090/8/a/bruh_git_gud_mlg_crankys_advice__by_mangledarobowitswag-d8ntbbb.png[/img]
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#308
11 Frags +

if my team isn't ranked at LEAST 2 steps higher than we are right now i will slam my face into a nail

if my team isn't ranked at LEAST 2 steps higher than we are right now i will slam my face into a nail
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#309
5 Frags +
flatlineholy shit and I thought i had it rough in like s19 when i did open rankings, i can't imagine trying to write this season

hats off to you loot

also WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE CARE if someone doesn't think you're as good as you (think you) are, instead of bitching about it on tftv just play better and make them rethink their opinion

Trust me, the abuse is near constant and comes in the form of PMs, steam messages and in thread hate. Rating teams against each other is at best a subjective exercise and is usually a pseudo-random attempt at predicting the inherently unpredictable.

Thanks for even trying loot, it gets easier the longer the season goes on.

[quote=flatline]holy shit and I thought i had it rough in like s19 when i did open rankings, i can't imagine trying to write this season

hats off to you loot

also WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE CARE if someone doesn't think you're as good as you (think you) are, instead of bitching about it on tftv just play better and make them rethink their opinion[/quote]

Trust me, the abuse is near constant and comes in the form of PMs, steam messages and in thread hate. Rating teams against each other is at best a subjective exercise and is usually a pseudo-random attempt at predicting the inherently unpredictable.

Thanks for even trying loot, it gets easier the longer the season goes on.
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#310
8 Frags +

https://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/06/06/esea-o-6s-s22-week-1-top-16-rankings/

Week 1 rankings are out for The Killer Exclusive.

https://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/06/06/esea-o-6s-s22-week-1-top-16-rankings/

Week 1 rankings are out for The Killer Exclusive.
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#311
-9 Frags +

i regret being sarcastic in this thread

i regret being sarcastic in this thread
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#312
15 Frags +

Ur getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them

Ur getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them
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#313
-10 Frags +
HuckUr getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them

us ignoring them is the way to let them die out other than waiting for internal struggles. dont give bullet any more attention just bc that's what cheaters want lol.

[quote=Huck]Ur getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them[/quote]

us ignoring them is the way to let them die out other than waiting for internal struggles. dont give bullet any more attention just bc that's what cheaters want lol.
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#314
11 Frags +
FenryrHuckUr getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them

us ignoring them is the way to let them die out other than waiting for internal struggles. dont give bullet any more attention just bc that's what cheaters want lol.

i still dont have an opinion on if they cheat or not but thats actually the worst reasoning ive ever read on this forum

[quote=Fenryr][quote=Huck]Ur getting carried by cookiejake powergamer

Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them[/quote]

us ignoring them is the way to let them die out other than waiting for internal struggles. dont give bullet any more attention just bc that's what cheaters want lol.[/quote]
i still dont have an opinion on if they cheat or not but thats actually the worst reasoning ive ever read on this forum
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#315
0 Frags +
whymeohttps://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/06/06/esea-o-6s-s22-week-1-top-16-rankings/

Week 1 rankings are out for The Killer Exclusive.

Good write up! thanks for continuing to cover open. Also I hate 2 gripe but you are spelling Callum's name as Sallum and I'm not going by Koder anymore :[

[quote=whymeo]https://thekillerexclusivetf2.wordpress.com/2016/06/06/esea-o-6s-s22-week-1-top-16-rankings/

Week 1 rankings are out for The Killer Exclusive.[/quote]
Good write up! thanks for continuing to cover open. Also I hate 2 gripe but you are spelling Callum's name as Sallum and I'm not going by Koder anymore :[
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#316
15 Frags +
ZiozmaAlso I hate 2 gripe but you are spelling Callum's name as Sallum and I'm not going by Koder anymore :[

Fixed.

HuckAlso idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them

I thought it was pretty common knowledge they cheat. I don't see reason to give cheaters any credit or rank them, especially when they're probably going to die mid-season.

[quote=Ziozma]Also I hate 2 gripe but you are spelling Callum's name as Sallum and I'm not going by Koder anymore :[[/quote]

Fixed.

[quote=Huck]Also idk if you intentionally left out malicious activity but they are definitely a top 2 team imo. Regardless of whether or not they hack we can't just ignore them[/quote]

I thought it was pretty common knowledge they cheat. I don't see reason to give cheaters any credit or rank them, especially when they're probably going to die mid-season.
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#317
13 Frags +

from what I've heard, bullet's team might soon be getting an injection of some invite talent...

from what I've heard, bullet's team might soon be getting an injection of some [i]invite talent[/i]...
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#318
-9 Frags +

edit: geknaiir said it way better than i did

edit: geknaiir said it way better than i did
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#319
21 Frags +

are we actually defending bullet now? the fuck

are we actually defending bullet now? the fuck
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#320
-2 Frags +

the point is that for the longest time people are claiming they cheat based on name alone instead of actually confirming it by watching a demo and looking for the evidence themselves

its true that some of them used to cheat (ive experienced this myself) but from my perspective they're just not as shit (at aiming) as people expect them to be

i cant force u to believe that theyre not cheating but malicious activity has been around for a couple seasons now and from my knowledge i dont think anyone has taken their time to make highlights where someone could be potentially cheating and instead just claim they cheat based on their loss and the team name

the point is that for the longest time people are claiming they cheat based on name alone instead of actually confirming it by watching a demo and looking for the evidence themselves

its true that some of them used to cheat (ive experienced this myself) but from my perspective they're just not as shit (at aiming) as people expect them to be

i cant force u to believe that theyre not cheating but malicious activity has been around for a couple seasons now and from my knowledge i dont think anyone has taken their time to make highlights where someone could be potentially cheating and instead just claim they cheat based on their loss and the team name
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#321
8 Frags +

They probably aren't going to die mid season. They died mid season every other season because they weren't gonna win but now they have a huge chance of winning.

They probably aren't going to die mid season. They died mid season every other season because they weren't gonna win but now they have a huge chance of winning.
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#322
10 Frags +

circa is fishy as fuck every time I see him in dm/pugs etc but im p sure those guys dont cheat in matches given how terrible they were last time I saw em in IM

circa is fishy as fuck every time I see him in dm/pugs etc but im p sure those guys dont cheat in matches given how terrible they were last time I saw em in IM
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#323
14 Frags +

gek are u retarded. they still cheat in irc scrims all the time. circa has said about 400 times hes done with evil bullet and pwner they have mind control and made him bad :( yet hes still playing with them and they're still cheating. we dont need to do a demo review of each scrim they played to prove, its ridiculous.

in it for a free cheque i guess

gek are u retarded. they still cheat in irc scrims all the time. circa has said about 400 times hes done with evil bullet and pwner they have mind control and made him bad :( yet hes still playing with them and they're still cheating. we dont need to do a demo review of each scrim they played to prove, its ridiculous.

in it for a free cheque i guess
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#324
24 Frags +

*phrakture cheats on an alt account for mge points*

"OMG HOW Can we ever TRUST U AGAAIN CAN ESEA BAN U FOREVER FOR THIS? U CHEAT ON ONE ACCOUNT U PROB CHEAT AT EVERYTHign"

*bullet and pwner cheat for multiple seasons in a row and ddos competitive tf2 websites and the esea grand finals. Also play hundreds of lobbies and centers on alt accounts doing 800 dpm on sniper*

"hey guys don't be too quick to judge man cmon maybe they've changed for the better and just want to improve and play some videogames :)"

Circa could be legit I've never looked at a demo of him playing. I'm not gonna assume circa hacks but if you think we have to prove that bullet is a hacker u might be retarded.

*phrakture cheats on an alt account for mge points*

"OMG HOW Can we ever TRUST U AGAAIN CAN ESEA BAN U FOREVER FOR THIS? U CHEAT ON ONE ACCOUNT U PROB CHEAT AT EVERYTHign"

*bullet and pwner cheat for multiple seasons in a row and ddos competitive tf2 websites and the esea grand finals. Also play hundreds of lobbies and centers on alt accounts doing 800 dpm on sniper*

"hey guys don't be too quick to judge man cmon maybe they've changed for the better and just want to improve and play some videogames :)"

Circa could be legit I've never looked at a demo of him playing. I'm not gonna assume circa hacks but if you think we have to prove that bullet is a hacker u might be retarded.
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#325
15 Frags +
Geknaiirthe point is that for the longest time people are claiming they cheat based on name alone instead of actually confirming it by watching a demo and looking for the evidence themselves

its true that some of them used to cheat (ive experienced this myself) but from my perspective they're just not as shit (at aiming) as people expect them to be

i cant force u to believe that theyre not cheating but malicious activity has been around for a couple seasons now and from my knowledge i dont think anyone has taken their time to make highlights where someone could be potentially cheating and instead just claim they cheat based on their loss and the team name

unless youre severely retarded its fucking obvious it's harder to walk thru a choke that bullet is spamming than any demo i've ever played against

[quote=Geknaiir]the point is that for the longest time people are claiming they cheat based on name alone instead of actually confirming it by watching a demo and looking for the evidence themselves

its true that some of them used to cheat (ive experienced this myself) but from my perspective they're just not as shit (at aiming) as people expect them to be

i cant force u to believe that theyre not cheating but malicious activity has been around for a couple seasons now and from my knowledge i dont think anyone has taken their time to make highlights where someone could be potentially cheating and instead just claim they cheat based on their loss and the team name[/quote]

unless youre severely retarded its fucking obvious it's harder to walk thru a choke that bullet is spamming than any demo i've ever played against
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#326
2 Frags +

how does it work in esea w/ cheaters? I havent been around long enough to really see
do they manually ban hackers or do they just hope the client does that for them? Cause esea client really doesn't catch anything and it sounds like these kiddies have been cheating for a while

how does it work in esea w/ cheaters? I havent been around long enough to really see
do they manually ban hackers or do they just hope the client does that for them? Cause esea client really doesn't catch anything and it sounds like these kiddies have been cheating for a while
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#327
-17 Frags +

i believe malicious activity bans are for manually banning for cheating but i think esea prefers to let their client ac do all the work

for example ko1n / kevinS cheats pretty blatantly in rank s with dukiii (i think?) and esea pretty much doesn't ban him while letting him play on the pro team underdogs 1 2 kid records videos of himself cheating on client and esea still won't ban him because he's not detected

like someone from allu's team ence mentioned that two people on underdogs are faceit banned and esea decides to still let them make $ and compete in esea premier

basically if bullet and pwner and circa don't get detected then they won't be banned

i believe malicious activity bans are for manually banning for cheating but i think esea prefers to let their client ac do all the work

for example ko1n / kevinS cheats pretty blatantly in rank s with dukiii (i think?) and esea pretty much doesn't ban him while letting him play on the pro team underdogs [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5_qoI3niU]1[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwsvyuMPEEY]2[/url] kid records videos of himself cheating on client and esea still won't ban him because he's not detected

like someone from allu's team ence mentioned that two people on underdogs are faceit banned and esea decides to still let them make $ and compete in esea premier

basically if bullet and pwner and circa don't get detected then they won't be banned
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#328
-10 Frags +
fade-i believe malicious activity bans are for manually banning for cheating but i think esea prefers to let their client ac do all the work

for example ko1n / kevinS cheats pretty blatantly in rank s with dukiii (i think?) and esea pretty much doesn't ban him while letting him play on the pro team underdogs 1 2 kid records videos of himself cheating on client and esea still won't ban him because he's not detected

like someone from allu's team ence mentioned that two people on underdogs are faceit banned and esea decides to still let them make $ and compete in esea premier

basically if bullet and pwner and circa don't get detected then they won't be banned

why are you still posting?

[quote=fade-]i believe malicious activity bans are for manually banning for cheating but i think esea prefers to let their client ac do all the work

for example ko1n / kevinS cheats pretty blatantly in rank s with dukiii (i think?) and esea pretty much doesn't ban him while letting him play on the pro team underdogs 1 2 kid records videos of himself cheating on client and esea still won't ban him because he's not detected

like someone from allu's team ence mentioned that two people on underdogs are faceit banned and esea decides to still let them make $ and compete in esea premier

basically if bullet and pwner and circa don't get detected then they won't be banned[/quote]

why are you still posting?
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#329
2 Frags +

Has ESEA ever banned a TF2 player? I'm not going to go through 100 pages of bans but from the ones I skimmed it seems to only be CS players

Has ESEA ever banned a TF2 player? I'm not going to go through 100 pages of bans but from the ones I skimmed it seems to only be CS players
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#330
0 Frags +

No

No
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