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Dr Levi on mouse sensitivity
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If you find that the mouse forces your hand into a high arching position, then it is not truly ergonomic, and neither its flashiness, or the glowing red dragon embedded on its peak will save you.

Such a great quote.

[quote]If you find that the mouse forces your hand into a high arching position, then it is not truly ergonomic, and neither its flashiness, or the glowing red dragon embedded on its peak will save you.[/quote]

Such a great quote.
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16.8 million colors will save me from carpal tunnel

16.8 million colors will save me from carpal tunnel
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I was expecting high sens to be less stressing because less movement, but I guess it does use a ton of wrist and hand, which is where most people develop rsi etc.

Good stuff.

I was expecting high sens to be less stressing because less movement, but I guess it does use a ton of wrist and hand, which is where most people develop rsi etc.

Good stuff.
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1. Maintain proper posture, desk height and ergonomics while gaming! Sit up straight; do not slouch/hunch your shoulders forward.

http://comp.tf/images/3/32/Ryb.jpg

[quote]1. Maintain proper posture, desk height and ergonomics while gaming! Sit up straight; do not slouch/hunch your shoulders forward.[/quote]

[img]http://comp.tf/images/3/32/Ryb.jpg[/img]
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what if i sit on a couch while i play am i not allowed to slouch

what if i sit on a couch while i play am i not allowed to slouch
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WWhistler1. Maintain proper posture, desk height and ergonomics while gaming! Sit up straight; do not slouch/hunch your shoulders forward.
http://comp.tf/images/3/32/Ryb.jpg

https://twitter.com/thatguytagg/status/645404581443293184

[quote=WWhistler][quote]1. Maintain proper posture, desk height and ergonomics while gaming! Sit up straight; do not slouch/hunch your shoulders forward.[/quote]

[img]http://comp.tf/images/3/32/Ryb.jpg[/img][/quote]

https://twitter.com/thatguytagg/status/645404581443293184
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will ams' fragging hand fall off ten years from now because of his sens

will ams' fragging hand fall off ten years from now because of his sens
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phobiawhat if i sit on a couch while i play am i not allowed to slouch

Couch bro! Me too! ಠ⌣ಠ

But really, fuck this. I want a desk chair.

[quote=phobia]what if i sit on a couch while i play am i not allowed to slouch[/quote]

Couch bro! Me too! ಠ⌣ಠ

But really, fuck this. I want a desk chair.
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leaning back at your computer is actually not nearly as bad for your back/neck as hunching forward

I mean within reason obviously

leaning back at your computer is actually not nearly as bad for your back/neck as hunching forward

I mean within reason obviously
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TangyyI was expecting high sens to be less stressing because less movement, but I guess it does use a ton of wrist and hand, which is where most people develop rsi etc.

Good stuff.

yep, trying to make tiny precise movements on a high sense definitely strains the wrist a lot more. The lower the sense the more arm/shoulder movement there is and less pressure on the wrists

[quote=Tangyy]I was expecting high sens to be less stressing because less movement, but I guess it does use a ton of wrist and hand, which is where most people develop rsi etc.

Good stuff.[/quote]

yep, trying to make tiny precise movements on a high sense definitely strains the wrist a lot more. The lower the sense the more arm/shoulder movement there is and less pressure on the wrists
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How high is high dpi? I mean, how high would it have to be to cause rsi

How high is high dpi? I mean, how high would it have to be to cause rsi
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nykHow high is high dpi? I mean, how high would it have to be to cause rsi

thats going to depend on multiple factors. You could have 2000 dpi and like a .5 in game sens and it could be the same as like 400 dpi and 5 in game sense (these numbers are not exact but you get the point)

strictly going by dpi doesnt tell the whole story. Inches / 360 is a much better measurement

[quote=nyk]How high is high dpi? I mean, how high would it have to be to cause rsi[/quote]

thats going to depend on multiple factors. You could have 2000 dpi and like a .5 in game sens and it could be the same as like 400 dpi and 5 in game sense (these numbers are not exact but you get the point)

strictly going by dpi doesnt tell the whole story. Inches / 360 is a much better measurement
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I really like the the section where he talks about high sensitivity causing issues as you flick with your wrist a lot more causing a lot of strain, I do find when I play soldier that I flick a lot more and it then causes a bit of stiffness in the wrist from it. I'll be swapping to a lower sens in general now.

The mouse section is pretty good, hopefully we get a dr. levi approved gaming mouse.

I really like the the section where he talks about high sensitivity causing issues as you flick with your wrist a lot more causing a lot of strain, I do find when I play soldier that I flick a lot more and it then causes a bit of stiffness in the wrist from it. I'll be swapping to a lower sens in general now.

The mouse section is pretty good, hopefully we get a dr. levi approved gaming mouse.
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wouldn't having lower sens cause you to move your wrist more because of the slower speed? that makes no sense to me

wouldn't having lower sens cause you to move your wrist more because of the slower speed? that makes no sense to me
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phobiawouldn't having lower sens cause you to move your wrist more because of the slower speed? that makes no sense to me

depends

if you're going from a 2in/360 to a 3.5in/360 yeah you're probably creating more strain on your wrist. Going to a 10 or higher in/360 using your wrist for movement starts become pretty unfeasible.

[quote=phobia]wouldn't having lower sens cause you to move your wrist more because of the slower speed? that makes no sense to me[/quote]

depends

if you're going from a 2in/360 to a 3.5in/360 yeah you're probably creating more strain on your wrist. Going to a 10 or higher in/360 using your wrist for movement starts become pretty unfeasible.
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It's not about how much you move, but how much the movements stress the tendons/nerves/etc. What he's saying seems pretty obvious (coming from a high sens gamer with fucked hands!)

It's not about how much you move, but how much the movements stress the tendons/nerves/etc. What he's saying seems pretty obvious (coming from a high sens gamer with fucked hands!)
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I play with around 3.5 inch/360 and I have swelling and pain sometimes in my right hand. When I aim I don't move my arm at all, I only move my wrist which isn't good. For now I've just cut down on playing. I was thinking about lowering my sensitivity but I am reluctant because it will be such a massive change for me when I've never used my arm to aim before.

I play with around 3.5 inch/360 and I have swelling and pain sometimes in my right hand. When I aim I don't move my arm at all, I only move my wrist which isn't good. For now I've just cut down on playing. I was thinking about lowering my sensitivity but I am reluctant because it will be such a massive change for me when I've never used my arm to aim before.
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DiplomattI play with around 3.5 inch/360 and I have swelling and pain sometimes in my right hand. When I aim I don't move my arm at all, I only move my wrist which isn't good. For now I've just cut down on playing. I was thinking about lowering my sensitivity but I am reluctant because it will be such a massive change for me when I've never used my arm to aim before.

I used to play on relatively high sens back in the day (until around 2013), something like 12cms/360 (4.7 inches) and had a really high desk, which forced me to aim solely with my wrist at the edge of the desk. After a couple sessions on mge or dm I would always feel a lot of wrist pain it obviously wasn't healthy

I have since switched to a way higher sens around 33cm/360 (13inches) and transitioned to aim with my arm as well, I still use my wrist but I put only a fraction of the strain in it as I used to. Such a sens change will feel very weird at the beginning, I just remembered I decided to play a pickup as demo right after I changed sens without even testing it and that rollout was the weirdest thing, was running into every wall.

But with practise your muscle memory will get your aim back to normal in a couple weeks at max I would say.

In hindsight it was the best decision I have made, at least for my own health, developing rsi would be hell for me as someone looking to make a career in compsci. Also I only played demo at the time but changing sensitivity helped improve my hitscan aim and I improved quite a lot at scout in the long run.

[quote=Diplomatt]I play with around 3.5 inch/360 and I have swelling and pain sometimes in my right hand. When I aim I don't move my arm at all, I only move my wrist which isn't good. For now I've just cut down on playing. I was thinking about lowering my sensitivity but I am reluctant because it will be such a massive change for me when I've never used my arm to aim before.[/quote]

I used to play on relatively high sens back in the day (until around 2013), something like 12cms/360 (4.7 inches) and had a really high desk, which forced me to aim solely with my wrist at the edge of the desk. After a couple sessions on mge or dm I would always feel a lot of wrist pain it obviously wasn't healthy

I have since switched to a way higher sens around 33cm/360 (13inches) and transitioned to aim with my arm as well, I still use my wrist but I put only a fraction of the strain in it as I used to. Such a sens change will feel very weird at the beginning, I just remembered I decided to play a pickup as demo right after I changed sens without even testing it and that rollout was the weirdest thing, was running into every wall.

But with practise your muscle memory will get your aim back to normal in a couple weeks at max I would say.

In hindsight it was the best decision I have made, at least for my own health, developing rsi would be hell for me as someone looking to make a career in compsci. Also I only played demo at the time but changing sensitivity helped improve my hitscan aim and I improved quite a lot at scout in the long run.
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i also used my wrist u know no wasted movements? like budists and shit. no point to move ur whole arm unless ur working out. SO anyways i move my wrist all the time and dont do anything but play tf2 for a while now and u know my wrist hurts too but i just power through it. moving ur wrist is dope cause u can just chill and hangout while u play u feel me? powering through it shows im a real man, or maybe an ox cause they are strong AS FUCK. also working out strengthened my wrists to the strenght of an ox (cause like i said they are super strong) and i like almost never have pain so yea shoutouts to all you ox gamers and wrist aimers cause we gotta rep the swag all day

i also used my wrist u know no wasted movements? like budists and shit. no point to move ur whole arm unless ur working out. SO anyways i move my wrist all the time and dont do anything but play tf2 for a while now and u know my wrist hurts too but i just power through it. moving ur wrist is dope cause u can just chill and hangout while u play u feel me? powering through it shows im a real man, or maybe an ox cause they are strong AS FUCK. also working out strengthened my wrists to the strenght of an ox (cause like i said they are super strong) and i like almost never have pain so yea shoutouts to all you ox gamers and wrist aimers cause we gotta rep the swag all day
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also arching and shit is for yoga but i lift i dont arch shit man dunno what this guy is talking about tbh cause i cant read at all and english aint my first language swag is :/

also arching and shit is for yoga but i lift i dont arch shit man dunno what this guy is talking about tbh cause i cant read at all and english aint my first language swag is :/
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who the fuck are you and how is everything you say so retarded

who the fuck are you and how is everything you say so retarded
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yo man not really sure what you mean by "who the fuck are you" tbh but ima try and answer to the best of my ability. my name is Giuseppe i play tf2 and post on the tftv forums. o yea and i workout and shit and i like warm weather, sunshine, and walks on the beach or w/e walks on sidewalks are good 2 but beaches are chill af #vibes

yo man not really sure what you mean by "who the fuck are you" tbh but ima try and answer to the best of my ability. my name is Giuseppe i play tf2 and post on the tftv forums. o yea and i workout and shit and i like warm weather, sunshine, and walks on the beach or w/e walks on sidewalks are good 2 but beaches are chill af #vibes
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he means ur shit so fuck off (▀ ͜ʖ ͡°)

he means ur shit so fuck off (▀ ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Giuseppe

http://i.imgur.com/LaSwCZl.jpg

[quote=Giuseppe][/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/LaSwCZl.jpg[/img]
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Giuseppealso arching and shit is for yoga but i lift i dont arch shit man dunno what this guy is talking about tbh cause i cant read at all and english aint my first language swag is :/

he means arching ur hand....

step 1 - hold ur dick in ur hand
step 2 - hold ur fingers straight
step 3 - take ur hand off ur dick, put ur hand on a table wrist down so that you make a triangle

grats ur hand is arched

this is different from arching ur back

[quote=Giuseppe]also arching and shit is for yoga but i lift i dont arch shit man dunno what this guy is talking about tbh cause i cant read at all and english aint my first language swag is :/[/quote]

he means arching ur hand....

step 1 - hold ur dick in ur hand
step 2 - hold ur fingers straight
step 3 - take ur hand off ur dick, put ur hand on a table wrist down so that you make a triangle

grats ur hand is arched

this is different from arching ur back
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how can u guys downvote giuseppe, thats some A++ level posting right there

how can u guys downvote giuseppe, thats some A++ level posting right there
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I upfragged and will take his advice over this shady doctor's

I upfragged and will take his advice over this shady doctor's
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