i didn't watch, but generally, more alcohol is a good thing.

i liked the format you 3 covered lots of stuff but djc knows EVERYTHING about tf2 which is a good/bad thing because it'd probably be better for the show to leave out some of the personal stuff to avoid offending a bunch of people.

I left the stream window open before it started so I wouldn't miss anything, but as it turns out the stream only starts when you refresh the window for some reason. I missed the whole thing ;_;

Seanbud thanks for the comments. I mentioned beforehand to djc that I'm OK with getting into the personalities a bit. I think it can help us build up the scene to have more fans interested in the drama among players. You're right, we don't want to blatantly offend anyone.

i felt like having the extra panelist really didn't add anything. I definitely liked the new format though. It gives you and cbear the opportunity to drive the initial discussion and removes the possibility of having one of your guests drive the direction of the show.

that's true but the tangents can tend to get offensive when you talk about what went into certain players getting cut or whatever. just my 2 cents.

p.s.
cbear u a sellout bro? its so obvious ur using the fuly charged to dictate us , all u want is power by given haatz its really not cool. And ur takin pplz stuff at will too!! i have to unfollow now cuz i dont want u u to take all of alt accounts and ban tehm. this is bullshit cosmo. i cant believe u would go on a power trip like this man why do u gotta do this to us. i used to like ur streams but then this shit happen. Ur streams not even that good anymore and now u want to take our stuff man ur such a greedy bitch. UNFOLLOWED.

the new format is supercool but my presence was unecessary for the majority of it

Good. Wouldn't work without DJC though.

What makes you say that, specifically?

The hilarity of his picture made it work

He's entertaining. You and Cbear are more like moderators. Maybe you could get a random guest who would chatter away engagingly but you're as likely to find a crazy stoner.

Not to bring the hate, and not that there's anything wrong with it, but in the same way I'd say putting up a pic of two girls making out, two dudes making out just looks unprofessional.

The streamlined version of the first few episodes with all webcams took a hit when players didn't have webcams, which is understandable. You use a picture of them, that makes sense and is the next best alternative. I don't buy into the quirky "dudes kissing" joke though. I mean, I get it, it's DJC's quirky humor, but as far as turning people on to TF2 and expanding the whole tf2 vibe, I don't think it works.

I really think you should consider extending it a bit. It was slightly better this week with the new format, but I always feel like it takes you a while to warm-up and just as I'm starting to become interested the show is over. Nothing major; an optional additional 10-15 minutes to each segment is all I'm thinking. I just feel like it would allow you the freedom to follow trains of thought better.

As far as UGC Plat rumors are concerned, Hein says the team may be breaking apart - but he wasn't cut.

Intro music lasts too long and is too loud, not for the first time.

supermassive black hole anyone

I tuned in for about the first 20 minutes or so... you guys seemed really scatterbrained last night and it was kind of tough to follow... not sure if that's because things were all over the place or because there were so many people involved after the opening discussion. I think the idea of Fully Charged is great, but sometimes I feel like it's basically just cbear and djc talking to each other about stuff while Sal makes funny faces into his webcam. This is great, but sometimes it feels like they exclude the viewers and forget the show is actually being streamed.

I think you guys need weekly segments, some sort of underlying theme for each episode, and more variety to your guests. If it's going to be sal/bear/djc - then stick w/ that and bring in one guest. Otherwise, make it sal/bear and bring different guests in. As much as I like hearing the banter between bear and djc, I think it appeals to a niche you guys aren't targeting... if you want to do an invite/platinum circlejerkfocused show, then do that... otherwise, I think you need to make sure you're hitting your stride w/ the low divs, pub players, etc. It just seems like DJC is on there telling funny stories and talking shit about who he thinks is bad, cbear is being handsome and insightful and sal is just kind of along for the ride - at least sometimes.

We went through the same kind of discussions with eXtravision (before Jeff got busy and bumps had a babby) and it was always back and forth with who we were doing the show for... was it competitive, or was it general? That's why they ultimately broke it into 3 shows, but I think that was just too much for people to follow.

Anyway, focus your theme each week, add in fun segments, and introduce a variety of guests. Keep it fresh, but make sure people have a reason to continue tuning in each week. Also, move away from the "hat giveaway" every week - people need to tune in for the content, not the items. If they're just tuning in for giveaways, it defeats the purpose of the show all together... might as well just pub for 50 minutes and then give the hats away.

EDIT:

But DJC referenced some random guy in stream chat as a source for Hein having a bad attitude with the team? Is that good enough? That REALLY bothered me last night, btw.

The show felt somewhat meandering, and the guests felt a little tacked-on at times (unless they were directly speaking to something). The guests didn't really feel part of the whole conversation, which is something you can work on after they've been introduced. Like you said, the format has changed, and the guests come in towards the end of the show and all, but they still felt a little 'excluded' to me, unless they were talking about their own teams. No disrespect to anybody, but having guests who can riff with the main guys would be cool and would feel more natural.

Would definitely recommend moving past the 'free hat' thing as already said in the thread. After a certain point, people need to watch Fully Charged for the content and not for unusuals. This can be helped by keeping the conversastion coherent and on-point.

Also I'm not sure Fully Charged needs to be as long as it is. Cutting it down to a 15 or 20 minute show would help focus a lot, provided you can keep it informative and entertaining. I'd leave the 30-minute+ shows for special coverage like post-LAN or leading up to playoff season where there's lots to talk about and lots to get through. Brevity is the father of wit or however that saying goes.

I thought it was good. DJC had some nice things to say... However I kind of liked the old format. Its still good though :)

i watched the first part but as you introduced the lower invite guests i fell asleep.
i only stayed up so i could be a part of the hat giveaway, and ended up missing the important bits.
if you removed the hat giveaway i would be perfectly happy to watch the recording the day after, also its unprofessional.
if you had djc for the beginning part of the show to talk about invite rumours and league stuff and then got rid of him and brought in the guests of the week, that might work better.

Woah calm down, ragebud

This is a bit of a misconception... TF2 fans will sit through 12 hours of LAN in a day but can't be bothered to sit through an hour or two of discussion and what not? If anything, the show isn't long enough - an hour and half format would be good - 3 30 minute segments covering 6's, HL and other shit. Give everybody their time and throw in some other segments with commercials breaks between so Sal can make some of that i46 money back.

didn't he reference TMP?

3 segments would be better so people can pick and choose. I strongly disagree that the show needs to be any longer. We are competing for everyone's time, and the more of it we ask to take, the more likely we lose out to TV or actually playing video games. I could be convinced to change my mind - but by data, not opinion. You'd have to take a sampling of current viewers and current non-viewers and show me whether the likelihood to watch the show would increase or decrease as a function of how long it is.

I mean, I could make a whole survey about it and regress the results. But believe me, doing it right takes a LOT of work.

Still - most of the feedback here is great qualitative analysis and I will be adjusting a lot of the show accordingly.

Having done 72 episodes of a weekly pocast, 1hr30 mins has been the sweet spot. People will stick around for 90 minutes. Any longer you start to lose folks.

Which people stick around? How many do you have?

We start with 4-500, end with 4-500 every week. You guys do it right by keeping the most exciting part for the viewers (giveaways) at the end of the cast. People will stick around solely for that.

We sorta do the same thing, where we take viewer twitter questions (about anything.. usually which male would we enjoy performing felatio on) at the end of the podcast.

He referenced some random guy in the steam for the source of his info on the CEVO prizes... this was me.

The Hein thing is quoting directly from this :
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/235-pre-season-highlander-gossip/2#post-45158

Where TMP and Hein both talk on the subject, very publicly.

Fucking YES. Viewer interaction is HUGE. That's something we REALLY wanted with eXv, but the format just wasn't conducive to getting people involved. You guys have a captive audience and if you want them coming back week after week you've got to get them involved and make them feel like they're part of the show - more than just saying their name during the hat thing.[

He was calling out some guy named like shanny1123 or something who said Hein had a bad attitude w/ the temp in mumble - maybe it was TMP, but I thought he was some other weird name in Twitch... still, that's fine - if that was TMP and DJC knew that, he could have said "stream chat user blahblah1234, who is Hein's teammate TMP..." Instead it just sounded like some random dude who said that and DJC cited it as fact.