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#211
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owlI wish I could euthanize you too

Don't worry, that's legal over here. Don't think you have legal euthanesia implemented federally over there, becuase your clinics are making sure you are hooked up as long as possible while being a demented vegetable on the machines, as long as you have the money.

[quote=owl]
I wish I could euthanize you too[/quote]
Don't worry, that's legal over here. Don't think you have legal euthanesia implemented federally over there, becuase your clinics are making sure you are hooked up as long as possible while being a demented vegetable on the machines, as long as you have the money.
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#212
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Hey all, Donald Trump is just a mystery to me. However, Donald Trump helped fund the 3rd installment of my "Reptiles Around the World Series" so in my opinion, he's a pretty swell fellow. My 3rd entry is titled "Why Do Komodo Dragons Have Such Extensive Tongues?" and was named a New York Bestseller. A photo of Donald can be found on the inside cover, which also indicates the amount of money that was donated to the project. I wish all of you a good day and urge you to be on the lookout for my next installment, "Is the Yellow-bellied Black Snake Black or Yellow?"

Cheers

Hey all, Donald Trump is just a mystery to me. However, Donald Trump helped fund the 3rd installment of my "Reptiles Around the World Series" so in my opinion, he's a pretty swell fellow. My 3rd entry is titled "Why Do Komodo Dragons Have Such Extensive Tongues?" and was named a New York Bestseller. A photo of Donald can be found on the inside cover, which also indicates the amount of money that was donated to the project. I wish all of you a good day and urge you to be on the lookout for my next installment, "Is the Yellow-bellied Black Snake Black or Yellow?"

Cheers
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#213
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Simply because of that post, fuck you.

Simply because of that post, fuck you.
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#214
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what a shocker the lefty wants to kill a bunch of white people

what a shocker the lefty wants to kill a bunch of white people
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#215
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americans are asleep, post racist opinons in the most recent political thread now

americans are asleep, post racist opinons in the most recent political thread now
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#216
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Whoops, thought I was awake.

Whoops, thought I was awake.
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#217
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Alot of the things this guy says is unamerican

Alot of the things this guy says is unamerican
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#218
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROBUGFUwAEh55H.png

am i right

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROBUGFUwAEh55H.png[/img]
am i right
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#219
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Super-https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROBUGFUwAEh55H.png
am i right

niceme.me

[quote=Super-][img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROBUGFUwAEh55H.png[/img]
am i right[/quote]

niceme.me
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#220
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An interesting article: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/france-raids-mosques-what-they-found-inside-proves-trump-is-right/#ixzz3trBZqPjo

An interesting article: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/france-raids-mosques-what-they-found-inside-proves-trump-is-right/#ixzz3trBZqPjo
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#221
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the301stspartanniceme.me

http://nicememewebsitewebsitewebsitewebsitewebsite.website/

[quote=the301stspartan]
niceme.me[/quote]
http://nicememewebsitewebsitewebsitewebsitewebsite.website/
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#222
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Cutetea....

Sanders and Hillary have been involved in government for decades. I don't trust ANYONE that has been in government for that long.

"What exactly is Trump." He's a business man obviously. He's someone that understands the economy and international trade. He understands the effects socialistic policies will have on the economy. He understands that we've been screwed when negotating international trade deals.

Trump is someone that will actually take action against ISIS. Obama said they were "mostly contained" and that they were "The JV squad" and the next day France is attacked and 100+ dead and 100's wounded. Obama is either completely clueless or has his own agenda.

Defund planned parenthood. I fully support that. And I'm not even going to argue pro abortion vs pro life because defunding them isn't even about that. We have hundreds of clinics and hospitals that are capable of providing the same services as planned parenthood, why are we primarily funding one private organization instead of letting multiple hospitals / clinics offer the same services, and by the way almost all of these services are covered by insurance under existing obama care.

Regarding Bernies policies, sure some of them will work. But it will lead America down the path of a socialized nation. America was founded on the principals of Freedom and "no taxation without representation." The course that Bernie wants to lead us on, is a path with bigger government, more social programs, free this, free that, but at what cost? Higher taxes and less individual freedom. More government intervention in every aspect of our lives. Liberals will often point to Scandinavian countries as "proof" that socialism works. Sure, some of these policies "spread the wealth" and give handouts to the poor and those that are too lazy to work, but look at whats its costing them.

Here is an example of socialism out of control: Denmark has income taxes starting at 37-42%, and 68% if you make just 80K+ USD! On top of that they have sales tax at 25%+. Denmark his triple the household debt vs the US. I don't know about you, but I am unwilling to pay that much in taxes. Government run social programs are extremely inefficient. Did you know for every person on welfare in the United States we could be giving them about $27,000 USD per year. Instead the money gets funneled through multiple government organizations and the people that really need help end up with a fraction of that amount of money. Even our existing social programs are completely disastrous!

I support shrinking the federal government in every way possible, with the exception of our military. So yes that does include the department of education and common core. I don't know the full details, but Obama actually did something kind of good lately and signed a law giving more educational power to the states.

Lets clarify what "Shipping millions back to Mexico" really means. We are not just singling out Mexicans and saying get out of our country. No, those that came here legally are allowed to stay. Those that came into our country and broke federal law, drained a combined (trillions of dollars) from social programs should have to leave the country. Is that realistic? Probably not due to the incredible numbers of illegal's in this country that have come in over the past few decades.

Trump may be a little overly aggressive on this policy than other candidates, but I have to remind you that once again it doesn't really matter what the President wants. The United States is a three branch system and not a dictatorship. If Trump or whatever president wants millions sent back, that probably would never happen, but some kind of a middle ground could be reached, which I would fully support.

What kind of middle ground? Well we could start with a policy where those that are law abiding citizens that have been here, have not committed any other crimes (besides their illegal entry) and are honest hard working contributors to society can stay, after paying some kind of a fine, and they can work their way towards citizenship.

Those that are leaching off of our social programs, and the criminals, gangsters, drug cartels will be fully ID'ed and then deported back to their country. Any criminal evidence will be sent to the local country so they can peruse their own prosecution.

Regarding North Korea. It's not just North Korea that we've ignored, its Iran. Did you hear the news that Iran tested last week their first precision guided missile? They did this against UN security council resolutions. We have not been strict enough in our dealings with Iran and North Korea. Neither of these rogue nations should be allowed to continue the development of Nuclear arms.

"We must deal with the maniac in North Korea with nukes." I'm not sure by this statement if you are implying that Trump wants to Bomb north Korea with nukes, or that he wants to deal with Kim Jong Un who possesses nukes.

"He doesn't agree with spending money on education or health care," I don't either. I think the government needs to stay out of individuals lives as much as possible. Think about it, the more government involvement, the more taxes. We can either have the government get more heavily involved in education and healthcare, or we can have them tax us far less, and let us make our own education and healthcare decisions.

I have first hand experience with the Obamacare mess. I was paying around $200/mo for health insurance. Obama promised us that under his new healthcare plan, that the middle class would pay less. That's a flat out lie. My rates soared to over $300/mo in the pre to post Obama care regulations.

I'll also mention one thing I like about Trump is that he is personally funding his campaign. Unlike some candidates he is not taking ANY campaign contributions (aka bribes) from large corporations unlike some of the candidates running. Like honestly why do companies give millions of dollars to some candidates. Because they think they are nice? No, its a legal bribe. Hey take this money and by the way approve these laws the remove these, hint hint, wink wink. Trump also stated that if he were to be elected he would not take a salary

"But yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too."

Very shocked to hear this. I don't recall a single instance of treating you poorly. Hell, I've not even played TF2 with you in probably 6+ months. My experiences with you have been mostly neutral, but I do remember enjoying one lobby where you were medic on granary and we did pretty well. You can talk crap about me all you want, but if you don't have any evidence or any examples I can't take you seriously. Randomly calling me out after I've not even seen you in game in months seems scummy IMO.

Those in the TF2 community that actually know me, know I'm generally a pretty nice guy. I talk some shit, might get mad and rage on someone in a lobby every now and then, but its a damn video game, almost everyone does that.

[Quote=Cutetea]....[/quote]

Sanders and Hillary have been involved in government for decades. I don't trust ANYONE that has been in government for that long.

"What exactly is Trump." He's a business man obviously. He's someone that understands the economy and international trade. He understands the effects socialistic policies will have on the economy. He understands that we've been screwed when negotating international trade deals.

Trump is someone that will actually take action against ISIS. Obama said they were "mostly contained" and that they were "The JV squad" and the next day France is attacked and 100+ dead and 100's wounded. Obama is either completely clueless or has his own agenda.

Defund planned parenthood. I fully support that. And I'm not even going to argue pro abortion vs pro life because defunding them isn't even about that. We have hundreds of clinics and hospitals that are capable of providing the same services as planned parenthood, why are we primarily funding one private organization instead of letting multiple hospitals / clinics offer the same services, and by the way almost all of these services are covered by insurance under existing obama care.

Regarding Bernies policies, sure some of them will work. But it will lead America down the path of a socialized nation. America was founded on the principals of Freedom and "no taxation without representation." The course that Bernie wants to lead us on, is a path with bigger government, more social programs, free this, free that, but at what cost? Higher taxes and less individual freedom. More government intervention in every aspect of our lives. Liberals will often point to Scandinavian countries as "proof" that socialism works. Sure, some of these policies "spread the wealth" and give handouts to the poor and those that are too lazy to work, but look at whats its costing them.

Here is an example of socialism out of control: Denmark has income taxes starting at 37-42%, and 68% if you make just 80K+ USD! On top of that they have sales tax at 25%+. Denmark his triple the household debt vs the US. I don't know about you, but I am unwilling to pay that much in taxes. Government run social programs are extremely inefficient. Did you know for every person on welfare in the United States we could be giving them about $27,000 USD per year. Instead the money gets funneled through multiple government organizations and the people that really need help end up with a fraction of that amount of money. Even our existing social programs are completely disastrous!

I support shrinking the federal government in every way possible, with the exception of our military. So yes that does include the department of education and common core. I don't know the full details, but Obama actually did something kind of good lately and signed a law giving more educational power to the states.

Lets clarify what "Shipping millions back to Mexico" really means. We are not just singling out Mexicans and saying get out of our country. No, those that came here legally are allowed to stay. Those that came into our country and broke federal law, drained a combined (trillions of dollars) from social programs should have to leave the country. Is that realistic? Probably not due to the incredible numbers of illegal's in this country that have come in over the past few decades.

Trump may be a little overly aggressive on this policy than other candidates, but I have to remind you that once again it doesn't really matter what the President wants. The United States is a three branch system and not a dictatorship. If Trump or whatever president wants millions sent back, that probably would never happen, but some kind of a middle ground could be reached, which I would fully support.

What kind of middle ground? Well we could start with a policy where those that are law abiding citizens that have been here, have not committed any other crimes (besides their illegal entry) and are honest hard working contributors to society can stay, after paying some kind of a fine, and they can work their way towards citizenship.

Those that are leaching off of our social programs, and the criminals, gangsters, drug cartels will be fully ID'ed and then deported back to their country. Any criminal evidence will be sent to the local country so they can peruse their own prosecution.

Regarding North Korea. It's not just North Korea that we've ignored, its Iran. Did you hear the news that Iran tested last week their first precision guided missile? They did this against UN security council resolutions. We have not been strict enough in our dealings with Iran and North Korea. Neither of these rogue nations should be allowed to continue the development of Nuclear arms.

"We must deal with the maniac in North Korea with nukes." I'm not sure by this statement if you are implying that Trump wants to Bomb north Korea with nukes, or that he wants to deal with Kim Jong Un who possesses nukes.

"He doesn't agree with spending money on education or health care," I don't either. I think the government needs to stay out of individuals lives as much as possible. Think about it, the more government involvement, the more taxes. We can either have the government get more heavily involved in education and healthcare, or we can have them tax us far less, and let us make our own education and healthcare decisions.

I have first hand experience with the Obamacare mess. I was paying around $200/mo for health insurance. Obama promised us that under his new healthcare plan, that the middle class would pay less. That's a flat out lie. My rates soared to over $300/mo in the pre to post Obama care regulations.

I'll also mention one thing I like about Trump is that he is personally funding his campaign. Unlike some candidates he is not taking ANY campaign contributions (aka bribes) from large corporations unlike some of the candidates running. Like honestly why do companies give millions of dollars to some candidates. Because they think they are nice? No, its a legal bribe. Hey take this money and by the way approve these laws the remove these, hint hint, wink wink. Trump also stated that if he were to be elected he would not take a salary

"But yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too."

Very shocked to hear this. I don't recall a single instance of treating you poorly. Hell, I've not even played TF2 with you in probably 6+ months. My experiences with you have been mostly neutral, but I do remember enjoying one lobby where you were medic on granary and we did pretty well. You can talk crap about me all you want, but if you don't have any evidence or any examples I can't take you seriously. Randomly calling me out after I've not even seen you in game in months seems scummy IMO.

Those in the TF2 community that actually know me, know I'm generally a pretty nice guy. I talk some shit, might get mad and rage on someone in a lobby every now and then, but its a damn video game, almost everyone does that.
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I don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..

I don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..
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#224
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ReeroI don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..

If you're trying to say that everybody on this video game forum is supposed to undertake a structural, logical and syntactic analysis of every post to discern if it's objectively worthy of a + or -frag before rating it regardless of your own opinion of the comment and afterwards reply to the comment in detail to explain why all opinions presented in it are ridiculous and dumb,

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I'm gonna -frag ur post
[quote=Reero]I don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..[/quote]

If you're trying to say that everybody on this video game forum is supposed to undertake a structural, logical and syntactic analysis of every post to discern if it's objectively worthy of a + or -frag before rating it regardless of your own opinion of the comment and afterwards reply to the comment in detail to explain why all opinions presented in it are ridiculous and dumb, [spoiler]I'm gonna -frag ur post[/spoiler]
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#225
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You know who else puts time to articulate their arguments very thoughtfully, the people that think the earth being round is a conspiracy by sun-worshiping free masons and NASA.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

Just because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.

Also I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.

You know who else puts time to articulate their arguments very thoughtfully, the people that think the earth being round is a conspiracy by sun-worshiping free masons and NASA.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

Just because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.

Also I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.
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#226
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+ and - frags are awful anyway, outside of dumpster threads they do nothing but distract from the dicsussion.

+ and - frags are awful anyway, outside of dumpster threads they do nothing but distract from the dicsussion.
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#227
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AvastYou know who else puts time to articulate their arguments very thoughtfully, the people that think the earth being round is a conspiracy by sun-worshiping free masons and NASA.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

Just because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.

Also I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.

Is this some bizarro world, or the first stage of idiocracy? It's naturally a tenfold better that in any argument both sides explain why they agree or disagree on this or that, and try to use facts, rather than an one liner or paragraph random ad hominems or random nonsense in which the message is : I don't agree with you, you are x.

since you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.

modern day discussions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYm5GKA4vpY

[quote=Avast]You know who else puts time to articulate their arguments very thoughtfully, the people that think the earth being round is a conspiracy by sun-worshiping free masons and NASA.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

Just because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.

Also I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.[/quote]


Is this some bizarro world, or the first stage of idiocracy? It's naturally a tenfold better that in any argument both sides explain why they agree or disagree on this or that, and try to use facts, rather than an one liner or paragraph random ad hominems or random nonsense in which the message is : I don't agree with you, you are x.

since you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.

modern day discussions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYm5GKA4vpY
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#228
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sacsince you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.

who even begins to have the time to parse down that ridiculous term paper and refute his points

and do you really think he'd listen at all?

[quote=sac]since you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.[/quote]

who even begins to have the time to parse down that ridiculous term paper and refute his points

and do you really think he'd listen at all?
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#229
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sacIs this some bizarro world, or the first stage of idiocracy? It's naturally a tenfold better that in any argument both sides explain why they agree or disagree on this or that, and try to use facts, rather than an one liner or paragraph random ad hominems or random nonsense in which the message is : I don't agree with you, you are x.

since you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.
AvastAlso I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.

Sac did you read the post you quoted? You're calling Avast out for something he specifically said he isn't doing.

[quote=sac]Is this some bizarro world, or the first stage of idiocracy? It's naturally a tenfold better that in any argument both sides explain why they agree or disagree on this or that, and t[b]ry to use facts, rather than an one liner or paragraph random ad hominems or random nonsense in which the message is : I don't agree with you, you are x.

since you compared him to a flat earth conspiracist on some point you might say where, so you would actually point out where you think something is flawed, rather than a subtle insult to denigrate your opponent.[/b][/quote]

[quote=Avast][b]Also I'm not comparing whoever this slayer guy is to them[/b](though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate), just saying that argument does not make sense and the point of frags is to show agreement or disagreement.[/quote]


Sac did you read the post you quoted? You're calling Avast out for something he specifically said he isn't doing.
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#230
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you forgot to highlight the part in the second post in where he says,
(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate)

that's why i called it out for being a subtle insult and asked him to point out where, he meant that.

you forgot to highlight the part in the second post in where he says,
(though sometimes i personally find the comparison accurate)

that's why i called it out for being a subtle insult and asked him to point out where, he meant that.
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#231
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cuteteaproblematic

don't use this word outside of tumblr

cuteteaDefund Planned Parenthood? They provide health care coverage for so many people in the US, as if things weren't bad enough.

The Planned Parenthood issue is mostly people arguing about abortion, which is as productive as arguing about gun control.

cuteteaAs for the reasons you brought up why Bernie's policies won't work - yeah they will, just like they do in so many other countries all over the world. You know where people live in the first world but also have access to first world health care, unlike the US. By taxing the wealthiest top percentage that won't live long enough to notice the difference in money they have.

"It'll obviously work in America, a place completely different than any other country, because I say it will."

cuteteaHe doesn't agree with spending money on education or health care, but spending much more on killing people, either in his own country or someone else's country. Nice!

Context, what is it?

cuteteaBut yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too. Mister "$layer", arguing in favour of someone like Trump over those damn career politicians suits even your name.

"Anyone who has political beliefs different than mine are instantly scummy. Also, I'll insult you personally for having opinions because I'm progressive like that."

[quote=cutetea]problematic[/quote]don't use this word outside of tumblr

[quote=cutetea]Defund Planned Parenthood? They provide health care coverage for so many people in the US, as if things weren't bad enough.[/quote]The Planned Parenthood issue is mostly people arguing about abortion, which is as productive as arguing about gun control.

[quote=cutetea]As for the reasons you brought up why Bernie's policies won't work - yeah they will, just like they do in so many other countries all over the world. You know where people live in the first world but also have access to first world health care, unlike the US. By taxing the wealthiest top percentage that won't live long enough to notice the difference in money they have.[/quote]"It'll obviously work in America, a place completely different than any other country, because I say it will."

[quote=cutetea]He doesn't agree with spending money on education or health care, but spending much more on killing people, either in his own country or someone else's country. Nice![/quote]Context, what is it?

[quote=cutetea]But yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too. Mister "$layer", arguing in favour of someone like Trump over those damn career politicians suits even your name.[/quote]"Anyone who has political beliefs different than mine are instantly scummy. Also, I'll insult you personally for having opinions because I'm progressive like that."
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#232
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http://i.imgur.com/wun8rpY.webm

http://i.imgur.com/wun8rpY.webm
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#233
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the301stspartanReeroI don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..
If you're trying to say that everybody on this video game forum is supposed to undertake a structural, logical and syntactic analysis of every post to discern if it's objectively worthy of a + or -frag before rating it regardless of your own opinion of the comment and afterwards reply to the comment in detail to explain why all opinions presented in it are ridiculous and dumb,
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I'm gonna -frag ur post

I get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.

AvastJust because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.

Once again, point taken but I never was arguing that slayer shouldn't be -fragged because his argument made sense but that I felt that he shouldn't have been -fragged because he was contributing to the discussion just like everyone else.

[quote=the301stspartan][quote=Reero]I don't understand why $layer is being -fragged. Political opinions aside he put much effort and time into forming an articulate and convincing argument but people are -fragging him only because they disagree with him. I know minus frags might seem silly but I thought only shitposts and poorly made posts (Not $layers) are supposed to receive -frags..[/quote]

If you're trying to say that everybody on this video game forum is supposed to undertake a structural, logical and syntactic analysis of every post to discern if it's objectively worthy of a + or -frag before rating it regardless of your own opinion of the comment and afterwards reply to the comment in detail to explain why all opinions presented in it are ridiculous and dumb, [spoiler]I'm gonna -frag ur post[/spoiler][/quote]

I get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.

[quote=Avast]
Just because someone puts in the time to make something and explain themselves does not mean it makes sense.
[/quote]

Once again, point taken but I never was arguing that slayer shouldn't be -fragged because his argument made sense but that I felt that he shouldn't have been -fragged because he was contributing to the discussion just like everyone else.
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#234
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ReeroI get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.

Ye but by your rules, that would be the only valid way to show your disapproval of the content of the post.

[quote=Reero]
I get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.
[/quote]

Ye but by your rules, that would be the only valid way to show your disapproval of the content of the post.
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#235
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#235 howdoiformat.jpeg

Jesus, what a mess of a quote.

cuteteaBut yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too. Mister "$layer", arguing in favour of someone like Trump over those damn career politicians suits even your name.

This "us versus them" mentality is great. He supports some of Trump's policies? Burn the witch!

cuteteaRead your posts a second time before posting them. All you've done in this thread is insult people personally, no need to be someone's white knight, $layer dude argues his opinions much better than you. I doubt he wants your help.

Did you want to address the points I was trying to make? I guess completely ignoring them and calling me a whiteknight(???) would be another option.

Finally, pointing out someone's shitty logic != defending the person they were arguing with. I have never met $layer.

#235 howdoiformat.jpeg

Jesus, what a mess of a quote.

[quote=cutetea]But yeah honestly you have been nothing less than a scumbag to me in the past for no reason, so I'm not surprised your political beliefs are scummy too. Mister "$layer", arguing in favour of someone like Trump over those damn career politicians suits even your name.[/quote]This "us versus them" mentality is great. He supports some of Trump's policies? Burn the witch!

[quote=cutetea]Read your posts a second time before posting them. All you've done in this thread is insult people personally, no need to be someone's white knight, $layer dude argues his opinions much better than you. I doubt he wants your help.[/quote]Did you want to address the points I was trying to make? I guess completely ignoring them and calling me a whiteknight(???) would be another option.

Finally, pointing out someone's shitty logic != defending the person they were arguing with. I have never met $layer.
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#236
6 Frags +

if you guys dont elect bernie sanders ur fuckin retarded lol theres no other option

if you guys dont elect bernie sanders ur fuckin retarded lol theres no other option
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#237
0 Frags +
the301stspartanReeroI get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.
Ye but by your rules, that would be the only valid way to show your disapproval of the content of the post.

I see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

guy My stance on this is x and here is why

3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

other guy my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why

3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

shitposter xD I am not contributing to the discussion

4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.

[quote=the301stspartan][quote=Reero]
I get your point now, but nowhere in my post did I say that anyone had to contribute to the post after rating. I was just expressing that I normally only -frag shitposts, my bad for not expressing that eloquently.
[/quote]

Ye but by your rules, that would be the only valid way to show your disapproval of the content of the post.[/quote]

I see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

[quote=guy] My stance on this is x and here is why [/quote]
3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

[quote=other guy] my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why [/quote]
3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

[quote=shitposter] xD I am not contributing to the discussion [/quote]
4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.
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#238
-4 Frags +
I see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

guy
My stance on this is x and here is why
3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

other guy
my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why
3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

shitposter
xD I am not contributing to the discussion
4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.

That seems overly complicataed and not intuitive. +frags and -frags should be analogous in usage.

[quote]I see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

guy
My stance on this is x and here is why
3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

other guy
my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why
3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

shitposter
xD I am not contributing to the discussion
4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.[/quote]
That seems overly complicataed and not intuitive. +frags and -frags should be analogous in usage.
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#239
10 Frags +

this isnt reddit though where -votes can sort controversial but well-written comments to the bottom. -frags are completely functionless

if someone is basing their view of your opinions off of frag count they probably shouldnt be participating in intelligent discussions in the first place

just -frag stuff if u dont like it and +frag it if u do its not supposed to be an extensively thought-out decision

this isnt reddit though where -votes can sort controversial but well-written comments to the bottom. -frags are completely functionless

if someone is basing their view of your opinions off of frag count they probably shouldnt be participating in intelligent discussions in the first place

just -frag stuff if u dont like it and +frag it if u do its not supposed to be an extensively thought-out decision
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#240
-5 Frags +
the301stspartanI see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

guy
My stance on this is x and here is why
3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

other guy
my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why
3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

shitposter
xD I am not contributing to the discussion
4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.
That seems overly complicataed and not intuitive. +frags and -frags should be analogous in usage.

True, which is why I stated its observed as best case scenario. Unfortunately, while many people find votes silly (me included) there are some who hold unpopular opinions and when they see their opinion get downfragged like shitposters normally do, they fear they will also get downfragged and treated the same as a shitposter (given that most frequent shitposters carry that reputation with them). This creates an environment where some unpopular opinions are suppressed which is unhealthy for forums and political discussions.

fatswimdudethis isnt reddit though where -votes can sort controversial but well-written comments to the bottom. -frags are completely functionless

if someone is basing their view of your opinions off of frag count they probably shouldnt be participating in intelligent discussions in the first place

just -frag stuff if u dont like it and +frag it if u do its not supposed to be a fully thought-out decision

This is the problem. When people judge posts by frag count and let it sway their decision to contribute to a discussion.

[quote=the301stspartan][quote]I see your point now, but in an ideal setting I would think that you +frag people you agree with, -frag shitposts and don't vote on contributing posts even if you disagree with them

eg.

guy
My stance on this is x and here is why
3 people agree
1 person doesn't
+3

other guy
my stance on this is contrary to guy and here is why
3 people disagree
1 person agrees
+1

shitposter
xD I am not contributing to the discussion
4 people agree this is a shitpost
-4

As you see, in a perfect setting by not voting on something you disagree with, you are successfully showing disapproval towards it.[/quote]
That seems overly complicataed and not intuitive. +frags and -frags should be analogous in usage.[/quote]

True, which is why I stated its observed as best case scenario. Unfortunately, while many people find votes silly (me included) there are some who hold unpopular opinions and when they see their opinion get downfragged like shitposters normally do, they fear they will also get downfragged and treated the same as a shitposter (given that most frequent shitposters carry that reputation with them). This creates an environment where some unpopular opinions are suppressed which is unhealthy for forums and political discussions.

[quote=fatswimdude]this isnt reddit though where -votes can sort controversial but well-written comments to the bottom. -frags are completely functionless

if someone is basing their view of your opinions off of frag count they probably shouldnt be participating in intelligent discussions in the first place

just -frag stuff if u dont like it and +frag it if u do its not supposed to be a fully thought-out decision[/quote]
This is the problem. When people judge posts by frag count and let it sway their decision to contribute to a discussion.
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