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#451
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AvastIt takes some next level fiscal conservatism to spend billions of dollars to build and maintain a wall to keep out people that can't collect any sort of social security and welfare while still paying taxes while simultaneously saying a tariff against the majority of cheap goods is somehow good for the consumer.

There are plenty of ways that illegal immigrants take advantage of social programs, using false or duplicate social security cards and numbers, false or duplicate identities/birth certificates etc. Yes there are illegals collecting social security, welfare, food stamps etc.

You say they still pay taxes.... That is only partially true. They obviously have to pay sales taxes (in most states), but beyond that they do not generally pay Federal or State income tax because they are often times working under the table, being paid cash by their employer.

Lets do some real basic math here. Lets say that half of the 11 million people are employed. So that is 5.5 million people. Lets say they earn an average of 20K a year. Lets say their tax rate is 15% (which includes state tax, and cost of living deduction ~5K). 15% would be 3K owed to the IRS. So that is about 16.5 billion dollars in a single year in unpaid state and federal taxes by illegal immigrants.

[quote=Avast]It takes some next level fiscal conservatism to spend billions of dollars to build and maintain a wall to keep out people that can't collect any sort of social security and welfare while still paying taxes while simultaneously saying a tariff against the majority of cheap goods is somehow good for the consumer.[/quote]

There are plenty of ways that illegal immigrants take advantage of social programs, using false or duplicate social security cards and numbers, false or duplicate identities/birth certificates etc. Yes there are illegals collecting social security, welfare, food stamps etc.

You say they still pay taxes.... That is only partially true. They obviously have to pay sales taxes (in most states), but beyond that they do not generally pay Federal or State income tax because they are often times working under the table, being paid cash by their employer.

Lets do some real basic math here. Lets say that half of the 11 million people are employed. So that is 5.5 million people. Lets say they earn an average of 20K a year. Lets say their tax rate is 15% (which includes state tax, and cost of living deduction ~5K). 15% would be 3K owed to the IRS. So that is about 16.5 billion dollars in a single year in unpaid state and federal taxes by illegal immigrants.
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#452
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There was just a possible ASSASSINATION attempt on Donald J Trump. This is the true face of these anti trump protesters. Considering how Bernie Sanders fans recently crashed Trumps rally I would not be surprised if he is a Bernie Sanders fan, preaching peace and equality yet not hesitating for a moment to use extreme violence when someone opposes him. Trump knows that someone just like this man here could attempt to kill him at any moment yet he continues on like a brave soldier.

Here is the video of the despicable attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8

Edit: Here is a picture of the man, you can see the extreme hatred in his face. http://i.imgur.com/wSAabbd.jpg

Confirmed Bernie Sanders supporter by looking through his twitter. https://twitter.com/Younglionking7

There was just a possible ASSASSINATION attempt on Donald J Trump. This is the true face of these anti trump protesters. Considering how Bernie Sanders fans recently crashed Trumps rally I would not be surprised if he is a Bernie Sanders fan, preaching peace and equality yet not hesitating for a moment to use extreme violence when someone opposes him. Trump knows that someone just like this man here could attempt to kill him at any moment yet he continues on like a brave soldier.

Here is the video of the despicable attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8

Edit: Here is a picture of the man, you can see the extreme hatred in his face. http://i.imgur.com/wSAabbd.jpg

Confirmed Bernie Sanders supporter by looking through his twitter. https://twitter.com/Younglionking7
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#453
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i went to a political rally

why didn't he just shoot him?

no one checks

retard

i went to a political rally

why didn't he just shoot him?

no one checks

retard
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#454
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are you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext

are you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext
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#455
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fatswimdudeare you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext

it's just a bit of banter m8

also elliott what kind of political rally allows people to carry guns into it, don't tell me americans actually allow that.

[quote=fatswimdude]are you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext[/quote]

it's just a bit of banter m8

also elliott what kind of political rally allows people to carry guns into it, don't tell me americans actually allow that.
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#456
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There are no guards to search you down going in, at least from my xp. They didn't even ask for an id when I was at Bernie's rally.

There are no guards to search you down going in, at least from my xp. They didn't even ask for an id when I was at Bernie's rally.
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#457
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sheepy_dogs_handfatswimdudeare you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext
it's just a bit of banter m8

also elliott what kind of political rally allows people to carry guns into it, don't tell me americans actually allow that.

they don't screen them I was 10 feet away from bernie sanders like a month ago and could've murdered him p easily

really stupid, sanders supporters are being disgusting lately

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=fatswimdude]are you trying to lowkey discredit bernie because someone who happens to support him is an extremely violent and non-smart person? im confused what your entire post is supposed to mean but its ridiculously laden with bias and subtext[/quote]

it's just a bit of banter m8

also elliott what kind of political rally allows people to carry guns into it, don't tell me americans actually allow that.[/quote]
they don't screen them I was 10 feet away from bernie sanders like a month ago and could've murdered him p easily

really stupid, sanders supporters are being disgusting lately
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#458
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I found Trump's supporters' comments much more disgusting than anything the "assailant" did, to be perfectly honest.

I found Trump's supporters' comments much more disgusting than anything the "assailant" did, to be perfectly honest.
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#459
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i'm so depressed.

i'm so depressed.
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#460
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That's crazy if that guy had a gun Trump would have been dead and America would be doomed.

Updates on the attacker:

"Tommy DiMassimo, A student of Wright University in Dayton Ohio, Tom Dimassimo is a progressive leftist thug who has participated in various protests including flag burning"

"By his own admissions DiMassimo is self-identified as an activist with Black Lives Matter, and various left-wing social justice groups. In addition he’s a Bernie Sanders supporter."

Also tophatpenguin typical Bernie supporter, tries to blame an assassination attempt by a Bernie supporter on Trump supporters. When will you people learn....

That's crazy if that guy had a gun Trump would have been dead and America would be doomed.

Updates on the attacker:

"Tommy DiMassimo, A student of Wright University in Dayton Ohio, Tom Dimassimo is a progressive leftist thug who has participated in various protests including flag burning"

"By his own admissions DiMassimo is self-identified as an activist with Black Lives Matter, and various left-wing social justice groups. In addition he’s a Bernie Sanders supporter."

Also tophatpenguin typical Bernie supporter, tries to blame an assassination attempt by a Bernie supporter on Trump supporters. When will you people learn....
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#461
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can u fucking read or do u just live in a world where everyone is against u

can u fucking read or do u just live in a world where everyone is against u
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#462
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BIG UPDATE!: Attacker supposedly has ties to ISIS! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/708800227994537984

What a big shock! ISIS know that Donald Trump is going to demolish them and are already attempting to stop him before it's too late for them. Bernie fan, BLM activist, SJW and ISIS supporter, what a truly evil man.

Edit: Reports coming in that the man had a knife on him as well, ISIS are trying to kill Donald Trump

BIG UPDATE!: Attacker supposedly has ties to ISIS! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/708800227994537984

What a big shock! ISIS know that Donald Trump is going to demolish them and are already attempting to stop him before it's too late for them. Bernie fan, BLM activist, SJW and ISIS supporter, what a truly evil man.

Edit: Reports coming in that the man had a knife on him as well, ISIS are trying to kill Donald Trump
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#463
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3 out of 4 of those things aren't evil

idk why you're trying to compare SJWs to ISIS

3 out of 4 of those things aren't evil

idk why you're trying to compare SJWs to ISIS
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#464
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can some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?

can some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?
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#465
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fatswimdudecan some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?

social justice warrior

[quote=fatswimdude]can some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?[/quote]
social justice warrior
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#466
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fatswimdudecan some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice_Warrior

""Social Justice Warrior", commonly abbreviated as "SJW", is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views, particularly relating to social liberalism, political correctness or feminism.[1][2] The accusation of being an SJW implies that a person is engaging in disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise his or her personal reputation"

[quote=fatswimdude]can some1 tell me what an S.J.W. is?[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice_Warrior

""Social Justice Warrior", commonly abbreviated as "SJW", is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views, particularly relating to social liberalism, political correctness or feminism.[1][2] The accusation of being an SJW implies that a person is engaging in disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise his or her personal reputation"
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#467
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Sorry for the necro but Trump is on my campus today and this shit is wild

One side of the street chanting "fuck donald trump" and the other chanting "build the wall"

pretty historical thing to witness actually, glad i got to take it in. plus i got most classes canceled which is nice

Sorry for the necro but Trump is on my campus today and this shit is wild

One side of the street chanting "fuck donald trump" and the other chanting "build the wall"

pretty historical thing to witness actually, glad i got to take it in. plus i got most classes canceled which is nice
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#468
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Just a reminder that Bernie Sanders is pretty much out and it's time to start voting for Trump.

Just a reminder that Bernie Sanders is pretty much out and it's time to start voting for Trump.
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#469
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i mean even if you don't support trump, i don't understand how anyone could ever vote for hillary

i mean even if you don't support trump, i don't understand how anyone could ever vote for hillary
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#470
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI[/youtube]
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#471
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i would vote for a basketball before i would vote for trump

i would vote for a basketball before i would vote for trump
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#472
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then you can go and write it in :^)

then you can go and write it in :^)
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#473
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After following press on Milo Yiannopolous I'm convinced A LOT of young people are only chanting things like "Build the wall" and scribbling TRUMP 2016 on sidewalks purely to illicit an emotional response or social media outrage from sensitive individuals.

After following press on Milo Yiannopolous I'm convinced A LOT of young people are only chanting things like "Build the wall" and scribbling TRUMP 2016 on sidewalks purely to illicit an emotional response or social media outrage from sensitive individuals.
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#474
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Jill Stein

Jill Stein
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#475
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fahrenheitAfter following press on Milo Yiannopolous I'm convinced A LOT of young people are only chanting things like "Build the wall" and scribbling TRUMP 2016 on sidewalks purely to illicit an emotional response or social media outrage from sensitive individuals.

I could tell a lot of that was happening. Many of the younger people I saw donning trump gear seemed to be doing it for some social statement or to get a rise out of people. However that's just speculation on my part.

Moment of the day though was when I saw two kids walking around together, one holding a sign with a giant lenny face on it and the other kid holding one that just said "memes". I think I was one of the few people around there that could truly appreciate them

[quote=fahrenheit]After following press on Milo Yiannopolous I'm convinced A LOT of young people are only chanting things like "Build the wall" and scribbling TRUMP 2016 on sidewalks purely to illicit an emotional response or social media outrage from sensitive individuals.[/quote]

I could tell a lot of that was happening. Many of the younger people I saw donning trump gear seemed to be doing it for some social statement or to get a rise out of people. However that's just speculation on my part.

Moment of the day though was when I saw two kids walking around together, one holding a sign with a giant lenny face on it and the other kid holding one that just said "memes". I think I was one of the few people around there that could truly appreciate them
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#476
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quintoshsacquintoshhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQquintoshgood, then move on and ignore the facts, whatever makes you feel better
So you take a media show as your source of facts and call others ignorant? .

ok should i go ahead and quote the other people in this thread who posted the videos of him devowing KKK and david duke? just because john oliver is a comedian doesn't make what he says more or less true, since none of the researches were done from HBO.
yes, he is making a joke out of his name, but even in the hardcover book "The Trumps: Three Generations That Built an Empire" by Gwenda Blair it states when the name change happened and why it happened. whether it was to "anglicize" the name (since the family migrated from germany) or whether it was because it sounded retarded doesn't make a difference.
yes, it's inadequate to dislike a candidate for an odd-sounding name, but it's equally inadequate to like a candidate for their name. a name doesn't have the power to bring fortune and blessings to a country, like he praises it so much.

look at his behaviour and his ineloquent speeches, how is this guy trying to "make america great again"? not to mention his policies that obviously target people who are unhappy with the government, which is what every right-wing party does to gain votes

http://imgur.com/a/cPE6z

Why is this interesting, look at the dating, this was right before john oliver did his "drumpf" show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ the 28th of february 2015 which got 29 million leftists views.

Aside from the misrepresentation and subtle manipulation that always is a hallmark at the daily show, and aside from the notion that john stewart should be denied his namechange by the logic, and for the next 400+ years his family should be referred to by everyone as leibowits to use the same logic. It's interesting that this "hitpiece" might have been spurred on directly by the clinton foundation.

Look at date on the letter februar 19th and it says his team was "working on it" and was hoping to have an answer by tomorrow. 28th just 8 days later john oliver did his "drumpf" show.

Working directly with the Clinton staff. Lmao

[quote=quintosh][quote=sac][quote=quintosh]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ[/quote]

[quote=quintosh]good, then move on and ignore the facts, whatever makes you feel better[/quote]

So you take a media show as your source of facts and call others ignorant? .[/quote]

ok should i go ahead and quote the other people in this thread who posted the videos of him devowing KKK and david duke? just because john oliver is a comedian doesn't make what he says more or less true, since none of the researches were done from HBO.
yes, he is making a joke out of his name, but even in the hardcover book "The Trumps: Three Generations That Built an Empire" by Gwenda Blair it states when the name change happened and why it happened. whether it was to "anglicize" the name (since the family migrated from germany) or whether it was because it sounded retarded doesn't make a difference.
yes, it's inadequate to dislike a candidate for an odd-sounding name, but it's equally inadequate to like a candidate for their name. a name doesn't have the power to bring fortune and blessings to a country, like he praises it so much.

look at his behaviour and his ineloquent speeches, how is this guy trying to "make america great again"? not to mention his policies that obviously target people who are unhappy with the government, which is what every right-wing party does to gain votes[/quote]
http://imgur.com/a/cPE6z

Why is this interesting, look at the dating, this was right before john oliver did his "drumpf" show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ the 28th of february 2015 which got 29 million leftists views.

Aside from the misrepresentation and subtle manipulation that always is a hallmark at the daily show, and aside from the notion that john stewart should be denied his namechange by the logic, and for the next 400+ years his family should be referred to by everyone as leibowits to use the same logic. It's interesting that this "hitpiece" might have been spurred on directly by the clinton foundation.

Look at date on the letter februar 19th and it says his team was "working on it" and was hoping to have an answer by tomorrow. 28th just 8 days later john oliver did his "drumpf" show.

Working directly with the Clinton staff. Lmao
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#477
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@sac

"leibowitz" is the correct spelling of the last name in the antisemitic remark you were trying to make.

Oliver's point in that episode (I don't watch the show) iirc was that it was a little silly to change your name to something like "Trump" insofar as the word has an extant meaning nearly synonymous with superiority, especially as D.T. has used the name as a branding mechanism.

The second paragraph of your post contains what would be a run on sentence but actually is not even a sentence because it has no predicate (unless the clause after the second comma was just a grammatically incorrect attempt at a predicate, can't be sure).

You put

sac"hitpiece"

in quotes, which would imply that you see that label as misapplied, yet clearly the intention of your argument is that it is in fact a hit piece.

It's "February".

The email you linked has literally no substance whatsoever -> grasping at straws with that one.

I don't know why I even try, it seems like the average Trump supporter has 20 less IQ than the national average (which isn't particularly impressive to start with).

If this election highlights anything, it's the abysmal state of education in this country that the "debate" has devolved to this level. No one seems to understand or care about policy any more. Donald Trump did an impression of a man with a congenital disorder on live television and refused to apologize for it. Not sure whats left to be surprised at after that.

@sac

"leibowitz" is the correct spelling of the last name in the antisemitic remark you were trying to make.

Oliver's point in that episode (I don't watch the show) iirc was that it was a little silly to change your name to something like "Trump" insofar as the word has an extant meaning nearly synonymous with superiority, especially as D.T. has used the name as a branding mechanism.

The second paragraph of your post contains what [i]would[/i] be a run on sentence but actually is not even a sentence because it has no predicate (unless the clause after the second comma was just a grammatically incorrect attempt at a predicate, can't be sure).

You put [quote=sac]"hitpiece"[/quote] in quotes, which would imply that you see that label as misapplied, yet clearly the intention of your argument is that it is in fact a hit piece.

It's "February".

The email you linked has literally no substance whatsoever -> grasping at straws with that one.

I don't know why I even try, it seems like the average Trump supporter has 20 less IQ than the national average (which isn't particularly impressive to start with).


If this election highlights anything, it's the abysmal state of education in this country that the "debate" has devolved to this level. No one seems to understand or care about policy any more. Donald Trump did an impression of a man with a congenital disorder on live television and refused to apologize for it. Not sure whats left to be surprised at after that.
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#478
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sacWhy is this interesting, look at the dating, this was right before john oliver did his "drumpf" show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ the 28th of february 2015 which got 29 million leftists views.

how can you say literally everyone who watched that video is a leftist?

das ignant m8

[quote=sac]Why is this interesting, look at the dating, this was right before john oliver did his "drumpf" show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ the 28th of february 2015 which got 29 million leftists views.

[/quote]

how can you say literally everyone who watched that video is a leftist?

das ignant m8
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#479
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#480
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Honestly Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are both shit too

No matter how much I try to like stein its impossible and she practically has less experience than Trump and Gary seems like a clown

Write ins are our only hope

Honestly Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are both shit too

No matter how much I try to like stein its impossible and she practically has less experience than Trump and Gary seems like a clown

Write ins are our only hope
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