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So I was on Reddit today....
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...And found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/3onleo/a_guide_for_somewhat_high_level_scout_play/

Before I start, I'd like to say this is coming from someone who has never played scout in a competitive league before. I'm only giving DM tips. I've played in UGC since s13 though, so I'm not competitive phony.
I used to get shit on by steel level scouts, but with some basic things that I practiced, I managed to be able to out dm most gold level scouts. Here's what I changed.
First off, you need a good monitor/computer. I used to play on a shitty mac laptop that gave me 30-60fps and I was able to play in steel as engineer, the class you don't need to have good aim to play. I was so bad with this potato, but once I got a new computer with a 144hz monitor, it felt like I was playing quake in slow motion. Scouts who were once fast were now walking the speed of a demoman. The difference is outstanding and if you ever care about getting into high level play, you need a better monitor if you have a standard 60hz low res monitor.
Second, I lowered my sensitivity and turned off mouse acceleration. I realize this isn't for everyone, since b4nny is known to be the best if not one of the best players in TF2, and he plays with a high sens to get those double strafes in. Personally however, I could feel my shots being more accurate, and I could actually aim rather than predicting and guessing where my shot would go. This skill is necessary if you want to have competent pistol and scattergun aim.
Third, my movement changed in several ways. I stopped double jumping every time for no reason, I started strafing with every jump, I made my movement less predictable by jumping on props landing off, faking a jump onto props just go to the left of it etc. Another huge thing is I started playing passively. I see so many scouts playing aggressively and it's so fucking predictable, it's not funny. When I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was, because you could just get a feel for exactly the scout was going to do next if you played 100 hrs of MGE. The last thing I want to say about movement is that you need to read the enemy, and fake them out. Say you're on gullywash and you just destroyed their scout for 100, and now he's going bigdoor. You go from point to bigdoor expecting him to be going right for the healthpack, but a completely mind-fuck would be the scout taking bigdoor wide and coming back to fight you head-on. It's so easy for that scout to just meatshot the other scout twice before he can react, and there's plenty of situations like these where you just have to read the enemy and make these types of plays. This stuff starts getting old in invite, but I can't really give tips for that level.
Another thing I want to go over is aim. I watched this video of clockwork showing how to aim with strafing, and I believe you're just gimping your skill with that. Like I guess if it works for you do it, but you're not getting better with your aim. If all you do is aim by strafing, the enemy will counter that by having movement that you just can't have competent aim against with strafe aim. You have to practice aiming with your mouse, and this goes back to having a good monitor, since you're able to see the enemy so easily. It also makes it easier to hit scouts who like to have an aerial advantage instead of waiting for them to land and hoping they can't read your aim.
I hope I helped someone somewhere, and if there's anything wrong or more I should add please point it out to me.
...And found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/3onleo/a_guide_for_somewhat_high_level_scout_play/


[quote]Before I start, I'd like to say this is coming from someone who has never played scout in a competitive league before. I'm only giving DM tips. I've played in UGC since s13 though, so I'm not competitive phony.
I used to get shit on by steel level scouts, but with some basic things that I practiced, I managed to be able to out dm most gold level scouts. Here's what I changed.
First off, you need a good monitor/computer. I used to play on a shitty mac laptop that gave me 30-60fps and I was able to play in steel as engineer, the class you don't need to have good aim to play. I was so bad with this potato, but once I got a new computer with a 144hz monitor, it felt like I was playing quake in slow motion. Scouts who were once fast were now walking the speed of a demoman. The difference is outstanding and if you ever care about getting into high level play, you need a better monitor if you have a standard 60hz low res monitor.
Second, I lowered my sensitivity and turned off mouse acceleration. I realize this isn't for everyone, since b4nny is known to be the best if not one of the best players in TF2, and he plays with a high sens to get those double strafes in. Personally however, I could feel my shots being more accurate, and I could actually aim rather than predicting and guessing where my shot would go. This skill is necessary if you want to have competent pistol and scattergun aim.
Third, my movement changed in several ways. I stopped double jumping every time for no reason, I started strafing with every jump, I made my movement less predictable by jumping on props landing off, faking a jump onto props just go to the left of it etc. Another huge thing is I started playing passively. I see so many scouts playing aggressively and it's so fucking predictable, it's not funny. When I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was, because you could just get a feel for exactly the scout was going to do next if you played 100 hrs of MGE. The last thing I want to say about movement is that you need to read the enemy, and fake them out. Say you're on gullywash and you just destroyed their scout for 100, and now he's going bigdoor. You go from point to bigdoor expecting him to be going right for the healthpack, but a completely mind-fuck would be the scout taking bigdoor wide and coming back to fight you head-on. It's so easy for that scout to just meatshot the other scout twice before he can react, and there's plenty of situations like these where you just have to read the enemy and make these types of plays. This stuff starts getting old in invite, but I can't really give tips for that level.
Another thing I want to go over is aim.[b] I watched this video of clockwork showing how to aim with strafing, and I believe you're just gimping your skill with that. Like I guess if it works for you do it, but you're not getting better with your aim. If all you do is aim by strafing, the enemy will counter that by having movement that you just can't have competent aim against with strafe aim.[/b] You have to practice aiming with your mouse, and this goes back to having a good monitor, since you're able to see the enemy so easily. It also makes it easier to hit scouts who like to have an aerial advantage instead of waiting for them to land and hoping they can't read your aim.
I hope I helped someone somewhere, and if there's anything wrong or more I should add please point it out to me.[/quote]
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quality post

quality post
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I was on Reddit today...
[quote]I was on Reddit today...[/quote]
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Before I start, I'd like to say this is coming from someone who has never played scout in a competitive league before.
[quote]Before I start, I'd like to say this is coming from someone who has never played scout in a competitive league before. [/quote]
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/24130/r-tf2-posts-that-make-you-cringe

http://www.teamfortress.tv/24130/r-tf2-posts-that-make-you-cringe
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Hildreth...And found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/3onleo/a_guide_for_somewhat_high_level_scout_play/

First off, you need a good monitor/computer.

i mean hes sorta not wrong, it helps

[quote=Hildreth]...And found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/3onleo/a_guide_for_somewhat_high_level_scout_play/



First off, you need a good monitor/computer.[/quote]


i mean hes sorta not wrong, it helps
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thank you for taking time out of your busy day to redirect us to incredibly shitty content that will benefit nobody

thank you for taking time out of your [i]busy[/i] day to redirect us to incredibly shitty content that will benefit nobody
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mthank you for taking time out of your busy day to redirect us to incredibly shitty content that will benefit nobody

For you anything

[quote=m]thank you for taking time out of your [i]busy[/i] day to redirect us to incredibly shitty content that will benefit nobody[/quote]

For you anything
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I mean, he's right about most of that (not all), but yeah, this is all really basic stuff that I would hope everyone here already knows. However, for the average visitors to reddit, it's probably be new information.

I mean, he's right about most of that (not all), but yeah, this is all really basic stuff that I would hope everyone here already knows. However, for the average visitors to reddit, it's probably be new information.
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Clockwork officially hasn't reached his ceiling yet

Clockwork officially hasn't reached his ceiling yet
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When I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was
[quote]When I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was[/quote]
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if you played 100 hrs of MGE.
[quote]if you played 100 hrs of MGE.[/quote]
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if u want to get better while playing training mods then play like u would in real game

theres so many people who play mge or dm like their life is on the line if they lost but they would never pull that shit in real game and they die for being an idiot

if u want to get better while playing training mods then play like u would in real game

theres so many people who play mge or dm like their life is on the line if they lost but they would never pull that shit in real game and they die for being an idiot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4CDjEC_wE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4CDjEC_wE
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Literally new bots and scrim/pug as scout for a while while USING YOUR BRAIN.

HildrethFirst off, you need a good monitor/computer.

this helps a FUCK ton

Literally new bots and scrim/pug as scout for a while while USING YOUR BRAIN. [quote=Hildreth]First off, you need a good monitor/computer.[/quote] this helps a FUCK ton
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I'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.

I'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.
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SheepylolWhen I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was

the cringe

[quote=Sheepylol][quote]When I used to play aggressive, I'd just keep jumping on props until I was on the enemies head. It wasn't until I got into silver level soldier that I realized how predictable this type of movement was[/quote][/quote]
the cringe
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DrPloxoI'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.

Aiming with strafing was already an established technique lonnnnnnng before TF2 even existed

[quote=DrPloxo]I'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.[/quote]
Aiming with strafing was already an established technique lonnnnnnng before TF2 even existed
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correct scout movement is hold w

correct scout movement is hold w
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DrPloxoI'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.

Strafe aiming has been around since quake with LG and Rails. YZ was the first real scout to bring in all 3 dimensions of movement into play and use jumping and height at the same time as AD mash and strafing into your shots. Those annoying as fuck scouts that dont touch the ground and surf everything? Thank YZ for that.

[quote=DrPloxo]I'm pretty sure the whole "aim with strafe" thing was popularized by yz50, so a technique from years ago. It's still very good against a lot of opponents, but I don't think that has ever been the exclusive technique for aiming. For new players of scout, it's a definite tool for them to improve their aim on scout, since they attune themselves to reacting to the crosshair being on the player at the faster speeds. But like, damn hildreth, that UGC kid really understands DM.[/quote]
Strafe aiming has been around since quake with LG and Rails. YZ was the first real scout to bring in all 3 dimensions of movement into play and use jumping and height at the same time as AD mash and strafing into your shots. Those annoying as fuck scouts that dont touch the ground and surf everything? Thank YZ for that.
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yukicorrect scout movement is hold w

Sometimes I think I forget it exists.

My old keyboard even has worn down and polished ASD keys but W was all fresh and new.

[quote=yuki]correct scout movement is hold w[/quote]
Sometimes I think I forget it exists.

My old keyboard even has worn down and polished ASD keys but W was all fresh and new.
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