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Pandemic Wins ESEA Season 2
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jinn_
August 1, 2012

In an epic BO3 finals match, [/flag][b]Pandemic-TF2[/b] and [/flag][b]Complexity-TF2[/b] battled last night for the ESEA Season 2 TF2 crown. Pandemic came out on top with a win on cpgranary 5-3, a loss on cpbadlands 4-5, and a win on cp_gravelpit 2-1 ... only 2 weeks after winning CEVO-P TF2 Season 3.

Many within the community had predicted that Complexity would lose on cpgranary and possibly win on cpbadlands but few expected a repeat of Complexity's CEVO-P finals loss on cpgravelpit (a map that they are known for being the best at). Their subpar performance could possibly be attributed to REP's 13-28 cpgravelpit record or perhaps his sporadic screams heard from the in-game voice chat. SycknesS provided Complexity with 40 kills in 32 lives on cpgravelpit and Reptile maintained his consistent 1.5ish K:D ratio with 29 kills and 18 deaths. On the Pandemic side, all of the players maintained positive K:D ratios except for SoLIDSnaKE who came out strong on cpgranary's middle point to give Pandemic a boost on the first map.

One of the least publicized facts about Pandemic's TF2 team is the strength of their second scout, [/flag][b]enigma[/b]. He is frequently overshadowed by his partner, carnage, but plays a vital role. As such, I decided it would be good to interview him after the finals match:

Interview with enigma

[iq]You went 35-23 in the match playing Scout alongside carnage. Although you had fewer kills than carnage, your K:D ratio (1.52) was higher than his (1.29 with a 49-38 record). How do you think you played in the finals? What is it like playing with carnage? How well do you two communicate? In what situations could you guys have done better?[/iq]

[ia]Overall I think I played acceptably (except on granary, but thankfully my team picked up my slack). It’s definitely a lot less burdensome when you’re playing alongside the best scout in the game, but there are some problems too. Both of our playstyles are extremely aggressive and that causes some issues when we both rush in and die at the same time. We tend to operate more or less independently most of the time (which, I believe, was our main weakness against Complexity on badlands—oplaid and syckness stayed together almost the entire game) but occasionally coordinate flanks and pushes with each other.[/ia]

[iq]After the match, Pandemic's glue said "...we expected to lose a few points on cpgranary but we weren't worried..." Is this true? What was going through your mind when coL blew through the first round of cpgranary? What are Pandemic's general strategies (when playing coL) on cp_granary?[/iq]

[ia]We definitely expected to win granary but not without a fight, as we were sure they’d acknowledge their historical weakness on the map and attempt to fix their problems. The first round was somewhat of an eye opener for us but it also served as a good warm-up and reminder to play at our best. Overall we played a lot more technically and carefully against coL. than we would have normally.[/ia]

[iq]Complexity pulled out the 5-4 victory on cpbadlands. As a Scout, you have a very active role on this map yet the best Scout team in the world did not turn the tide of the map. What were the obstacles to winning on cpbadlands? What did the Scouts do (you and carnage), good and bad?[/iq]

[ia]As I mentioned earlier, our main fault was failing to stick together against their scouts. It’s hard enough fighting even two average scouts on your own, but when you’re up against an almost-always overhealed pair of amazing scouts, it becomes orders of magnitude more difficult.[/ia]

[iq]Thinking back, who were the best and worst players on each team during this match? What is wrong with Complexity (in terms of individual players, strategies, practicing, etc)? Where do you see Pandemic in the CEVO tournament, ESEA Season 3, and beyond?[/iq]

[ia]Almost everyone on both teams had their moments, but the two players that stood out the most were carnage (as always) and syckness (on gravelpit). Not going to comment on that second part :) Complexity no doubt has some amazing teamwork and chemistry, but they’re somewhat lacking in heavy fragging power. In regards to the future, I’ll quote Bradford “PYYYOUR” Ross: “Sure we will fall here and there, but when it comes down to it, this team … will win every online and LAN tournament that is out there.[/ia]

[iq]As you may have noticed...all of the high-stakes competitive TF2 matches are played on cpgranary, cpbadlands, and cp_gravelpit. Is this a function of the two teams that are always playing these matches (Pand and coL) or is it due to the failures of the other available maps? What user-made maps catch your eye?[/iq]

[ia]These are all tried-and-true maps. In the context of a finals match, it’s important that the outcome be determined by the greater expression of skill and teamwork, not by some gimmicky map. However, there are quite a few other maps that come close to this ideal, namely yukon, follower, and freight.[/ia]

Interview with REP

As the off Soldier for Complexity, [/flag][b]REP[/b] provides much needed support to the powerfully aggressive Reptile. After his performance in the finals match, I felt it necessary to find out more:

[iq]You went 13-28 on cp_gravelpit against Pandemic. Everyone understands that pocket Soldiers have lower K:Ds but this seems unusually low ... what happened?[/iq]

[ia]What people probably don't care to understand is I was doing what I was told. I suicided 3 times to force uber, 2 of those times I did force uber and the third time the medic was extremely weak and oplaid was behind him and then finished him off. On roof our combo was weak and their medic with uber was coming out of longhall, I could've went for the scout pushing out combo but I again went for the medic to force uber and killed him with it. I died a lot trying to force uber but thats just how our team plays we wait for them to pop uber and then we uber reptile out. Their strategy had a gun watching half of the roof for jaeger. I had to watch the entire roof from the demo/solds and couldn't peak to far or get sniped by carnage. If my job was to play passive close to the medic I would've gotten more kills, but I did instead what people asked me to do and I sincerely think I did a good job of doing that. I outfragged jeager Pandemic's pocket sold on granary and badlands, but no credit from that right? ;p[/ia]

[iq]Course not :). After the first round of cpgranary it appeared as if Complexity would dominate the map. What were you and the team thinking at that point? How did you prepare for cpgranary?[/iq]

[ia]We prepared prior scrimming dynamic that day and a couple days before scrimming EG| trying to test some strats for the middle battle. I think we all said the same thing 'lets do that again' after the first round.[/ia]

[iq]It all came together on cp_badlands for Complexity. What do you attribute the win on this map to?[/iq]

[ia]Badlands is probably our best map, and the middle battle allows all of us to use deathmatch skill, while other maps have the dm taking place between scouts first then heavy clases later. We were down 3-0 but after we won middle from that point on we had a much better momentum. Syckness also had an extremely clutch backcap for the 5th gamepoint rnd.[/ia]

[iq]Where do you see Complexity in the next few months (the CEVO tournament, ESEA Season 3, and beyond)?[/iq]

[ia]We are really only going to get better, having gotten to play maybe 10hrs with our new medic Pure, and only 1 scrim of gravelpit with him, I really don't see us getting anything but stronger. That chemistry of the soldier / medic duo takes a while to develop. We take a loss pretty well, and we all get along well. that is something a lot of teams don't share, and also helps us for the future.[/ia]

[iq]As I asked Pandemic's enigma...all of the high-stakes competitive TF2 matches are played on cpgranary, cpbadlands, and cp_gravelpit. Is this a function of the two teams that are always playing these matches (Pand and coL) or is it due to the failures of the other available maps? What user-made maps catch your eye?[/iq]

[ia]It's def. a failure of the other maps... the only custom map that I see some potential in is yukon. Playing the same four maps over and over has made things pretty dull lately, valve needs to release some new ones.[/ia]

I would like to thank both [b]enigma[/b] and [b]REP[/b] for their time. You can watch the full footage of the match on Pwnage.tv. Stay tuned for more competitive TF2 league coverage!

Pandemic vs. coL - cpgranary Pandemic vs. coL - cpbadlands Pandemic vs. coL - cp_gravelpit

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8 Frags +

Good luck, boys! This will be fun for sure.

EDIT: Spoiler alert LOL

Good luck, boys! This will be fun for sure.

EDIT: Spoiler alert LOL
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#2
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http://puu.sh/7NcTf.png

???

[img]http://puu.sh/7NcTf.png[/img]
???
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#3
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why does it say pandemic wins esea season 2

am i missing something

why does it say pandemic wins esea season 2

am i missing something
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#4
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Today I learned Pandemic won season 2 of ESEA

Today I learned Pandemic won season 2 of ESEA
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#5
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Waldohttp://puu.sh/7NcTf.png
???
Deseanwhy does it say pandemic wins esea season 2

am i missing something

Must be something odd with the way events are linked to news posts, unfortunately enigma is already on his way to LANFest so it probably won't be fixed 'til after.

[quote=Waldo][img]http://puu.sh/7NcTf.png[/img]
???[/quote]
[quote=Desean]why does it say pandemic wins esea season 2

am i missing something[/quote]
Must be something odd with the way events are linked to news posts, unfortunately enigma is already on his way to LANFest so it probably won't be fixed 'til after.
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#6
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That or TFtv is secretly, a time machine.

That or TFtv is secretly, a time machine.
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Tip of the Hats
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I wouldnt have it any other way.

I wouldnt have it any other way.
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Daniel from KoG predicts week 5 of TWL-Invite on cp_yukon.

Daniel from KoG predicts week 5 of TWL-Invite on cp_yukon.
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Season 3 predictions? 20ID is looking pretty strong but I don't think anyone can topple Loaded. If only there was a way to take them out of the competition...

Season 3 predictions? 20ID is looking pretty strong but I don't think anyone can topple Loaded. If only there was a way to take them out of the competition...
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this is the best glitch

this is the best glitch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo[/youtube]
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toothDaniel from KoG predicts week 5 of TWL-Invite on cp_yukon.

god damnit tooth you beat me to it

[quote=tooth]Daniel from KoG predicts week 5 of TWL-Invite on cp_yukon.[/quote]
god damnit tooth you beat me to it
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#13
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damn.... anyone else see reptile go huge on spire?

damn.... anyone else see reptile go huge on spire?
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kirbyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo

RIP Gpit, Well and Fastlane

[quote=kirby][youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo[/youtube][/quote]


RIP Gpit, Well and Fastlane
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Well damn, I set my -frag lasers to kill when I thought someone necroed this thread.
Oh well. ToTH Hype #4dakidz

Well damn, I set my -frag lasers to kill when I thought someone necroed this thread.
Oh well. ToTH Hype #4dakidz
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too early to call it for sure

too early to call it for sure
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woop woop. gl hf -- the donger chat spam has already begun.

woop woop. gl hf -- the donger chat spam has already begun.
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Should all change our name color to orange for the event.
Also is the music coming from Kurt? I'm hearing a lot of music I can't remember that name of.

Should all change our name color to orange for the event.
Also is the music coming from Kurt? I'm hearing a lot of music I can't remember that name of.
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No donator message?

No donator message?
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defykirbyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo
RIP Gpit, Well and Fastlane

we need to have a nostalgia pug group where we only pug maps that used to be in rotation

[quote=defy][quote=kirby][youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIfbKi2Y1bo[/youtube][/quote]


RIP Gpit, Well and Fastlane[/quote]

we need to have a nostalgia pug group where we only pug maps that used to be in rotation
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Who are the NA and EU 6's teams?

Who are the NA and EU 6's teams?
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it's MiG vs XTS i believe

it's MiG vs XTS i believe
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Someone posted this in chat.

http://i.imgur.com/MlKQrE9.jpg?1

It's a poster made by some kids at One Step Camp.

Someone posted this in chat.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MlKQrE9.jpg?1[/IMG]
It's a poster made by some kids at One Step Camp.
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LionxSomeone posted this in chat.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MlKQrE9.jpg?1[/IMG]
It's a poster made by some kids at One Step Camp.

YU ROCK made me smile

[quote=Lionx]Someone posted this in chat.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MlKQrE9.jpg?1[/IMG]
It's a poster made by some kids at One Step Camp.[/quote]
YU ROCK made me smile
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#25
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http://puu.sh/7ObGW.jpg

I want my donation to go to the kid who drew this

[img]http://puu.sh/7ObGW.jpg[/img]

I want my donation to go to the kid who drew this
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redbanhttp://puu.sh/7ObGW.jpg

I want my donation to go to the kid who drew this

I KNOW A WEENIE MAN
HE OWNS A WEENIE STAND
HE SELLS MOST ANYTHING
FROM HOT DOGS ON DOWN (BOOM BOOM BOOM)

ONE DAY I'LL BE HIS WIFE
EAT WEENIES ALL MY LIFE
HOT DOG I LOVE THAT WEENIE MAN (WEENIE MAN!)

best song

[quote=redban][img]http://puu.sh/7ObGW.jpg[/img]

I want my donation to go to the kid who drew this[/quote]

I KNOW A WEENIE MAN
HE OWNS A WEENIE STAND
HE SELLS MOST ANYTHING
FROM HOT DOGS ON DOWN (BOOM BOOM BOOM)

ONE DAY I'LL BE HIS WIFE
EAT WEENIES ALL MY LIFE
HOT DOG I LOVE THAT WEENIE MAN (WEENIE MAN!)

best song
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#27
6 Frags +

hotdog delivered

hotdog delivered
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