Mushi definitely tore through the entire team, and normally fights involved both the abyssal and black hole on Mushi to win. If he had aegis the fights should have easily gone in the way of Orange. But ky.xy must have been practicing his APM by a-clicking roshan as much as possible when aegis dropped.
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Mushi definitely tore through the entire team, and normally fights involved both the abyssal and black hole on Mushi to win. If he had aegis the fights should have easily gone in the way of Orange. But ky.xy must have been practicing his APM by a-clicking roshan as much as possible when aegis dropped.
m i really dont think orange was quite as far ahead as people think thanks to track kills getting up key items on them
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.
[quote=m] i really dont think orange was quite as far ahead as people think thanks to track kills getting up key items on them[/quote]
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.
MultipleEntendrem i really dont think orange was quite as far ahead as people think thanks to track kills getting up key items on them
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.
Execute a high-ground push? Mushi could have AFKd with arcane orb on auto-cast and gotten a 3k. They can buy-back into their own bkb/ult CDs as much as they want but that next fight was orange's guaranteed with the aegis and given how they executed the fight in their own jungle there is no feasible way they would have botched that.
[quote=MultipleEntendre][quote=m] i really dont think orange was quite as far ahead as people think thanks to track kills getting up key items on them[/quote]
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.[/quote]
Execute a high-ground push? Mushi could have AFKd with arcane orb on auto-cast and gotten a 3k. They can buy-back into their own bkb/ult CDs as much as they want but that next fight was orange's guaranteed with the aegis and given how they executed the fight in their own jungle there is no feasible way they would have botched that.
This. Even with Aegis, Orange would have still had to execute a high-ground push against a BKB Enigma and a Abyssal Lifestealer, and Navi had buybacks. With the way they ended up shutting down the Bane and OD with those items, I'm not convinced Orange could have made a game-winning push at that time. Pretty sure the game would have gone later anyway.
On the other hand, the aegis deny probably ruined Orange's mindset. And Navi is going to get ruined by Alliance now.[/quote]
Execute a high-ground push? Mushi could have AFKd with arcane orb on auto-cast and gotten a 3k. They can buy-back into their own bkb/ult CDs as much as they want but that next fight was orange's guaranteed with the aegis and given how they executed the fight in their own jungle there is no feasible way they would have botched that.
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In the end, hypotheticals are useless. It happened. Ky.xy couldn't handle the pressure of that stage, and made the most horrendous mistake of the tournament at the worst possible time. Unfortunately, individual mistakes can be enough to take you down even in a team game. As TF2 players, we all know this. There's no such thing as deserving to win anything. You have to execute throughout, and you have to capitalize on your advantages. Orange didn't do that.
In the end, hypotheticals are useless. It happened. Ky.xy couldn't handle the pressure of that stage, and made the most horrendous mistake of the tournament at the worst possible time. Unfortunately, individual mistakes can be enough to take you down even in a team game. As TF2 players, we all know this. There's no such thing as deserving to win anything. You have to execute throughout, and you have to capitalize on your advantages. Orange didn't do that.
Okay you can convince yourself that na'vi earned that victory
I hope to god you don't watch EG games or you must be a mental gymnast
Okay you can convince yourself that na'vi earned that victory
I hope to god you don't watch EG games or you must be a mental gymnast
I hope to god you don't watch EG games or you must be a mental gymnast
Jesus June, slow your roll. I never said anything about Navi earning it. I said Orange didn't manage to follow through to the end. What Navi DID do is punish them for a bonehead mistake. Have you never taken a round off of a pick on an over-extended player? Did you stop and tell yourself, "Man, we should really just forfeit because we didn't earn that round, they gave it to us." No, you take what the other team gives you.
You are somehow pissed at Navi because Ky.xy fucked up. I give you a 9.75 for a slight step on the dismount and issues with reading comprehension.
Jesus June, slow your roll. I never said anything about Navi earning it. I said Orange didn't manage to follow through to the end. What Navi DID do is punish them for a bonehead mistake. Have you never taken a round off of a pick on an over-extended player? Did you stop and tell yourself, "Man, we should really just forfeit because we didn't earn that round, they gave it to us." No, you take what the other team gives you.
You are somehow pissed at Navi because Ky.xy fucked up. I give you a 9.75 for a slight step on the dismount and issues with reading comprehension.
You are somehow pissed at Navi because Ky.xy fucked up. I give you a 9.75 for a slight step on the dismount and issues with reading comprehension.
I've never won a round because a player decided to set their own computer on fire. Until someone has and you convince yourself that the other team was in a good position anyway and the computer melting was simply icing on the cake, I don't think I'm really going to take any of your points seriously.
I've never won a round because a player decided to set their own computer on fire. Until someone has and you convince yourself that the other team was in a good position anyway and the computer melting was simply icing on the cake, I don't think I'm really going to take any of your points seriously.
This is like pulling out the Quickfix, Na'vi is going balls deep, people!
This is like pulling out the Quickfix, Na'vi is going balls deep, people!
Na'vi's picks.... Whatever happens, that draft takes a lot of balls
Na'vi's picks.... Whatever happens, that draft takes a lot of balls
dam is this tf2 im watchin ah ah ah ah im here all week folks folow me @ twiter.com/sutpididiot
dam is this tf2 im watchin ah ah ah ah im here all week folks folow me @ twiter.com/sutpididiot
wow that was a pathetic attempt by na'vi.
their draft and play was bad
wow that was a pathetic attempt by na'vi.
their draft and play was bad
their draft and play was bad
Trying to all-in aggressive trilane against...nothing. Let wisp get 6 uncontested, try to start a farming war venge v gyro.
wtf puppey pls
Trying to all-in aggressive trilane against...nothing. Let wisp get 6 uncontested, try to start a farming war venge v gyro.
wtf puppey pls
wtf puppey pls
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