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How to Twitch (Guide to setting up a stream)
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#31
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I can't seem to set a delay in OBS. Whenever I try to, it fails to stream and just disconnects after about 10-15 seconds. Any idea why?

I can't seem to set a delay in OBS. Whenever I try to, it fails to stream and just disconnects after about 10-15 seconds. Any idea why?
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#32
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I'm not sure what's causing your problem but I really don't recommend it if you are delaying for any significant amount of time/if you don't have an ass load of RAM. All OBS does is store it on your RAM for the 1-2 minutes you set as the delay.

Just my 2 centses

I'm not sure what's causing your problem but I really don't recommend it if you are delaying for any significant amount of time/if you don't have an ass load of RAM. All OBS does is store it on your RAM for the 1-2 minutes you set as the delay.

Just my 2 centses
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#33
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Was trying to do like 30 secs so I could at least stream matches n stuff without ghosters

Was trying to do like 30 secs so I could at least stream matches n stuff without ghosters
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#34
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#33
3500kbit/s * 30s = 105Mbit ~ 13MByte
For 2 minutes it's around 52MB.

That raises two questions:
How are you streaming with <50MB free RAM?
And since 50MB RAM is an ass load: What year is it?

#33
3500kbit/s * 30s = 105Mbit ~ 13MByte
For 2 minutes it's around 52MB.

That raises two questions:
How are you streaming with <50MB free RAM?
And since 50MB RAM is an ass load: What year is it?
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#35
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So any idea why I can't use delay?

So any idea why I can't use delay?
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#36
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yukiSo any idea why I can't use delay?

If you're using Twitch, you can just set a delay right through your site settings as opposed to using software.

[quote=yuki]So any idea why I can't use delay?[/quote]

If you're using Twitch, you can just set a delay right through your site settings as opposed to using software.
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#37
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I thought they removed that?

I thought they removed that?
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#38
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GetawhaleyukiSo any idea why I can't use delay?
If you're using Twitch, you can just set a delay right through your site settings as opposed to using software.

partners only

[quote=Getawhale][quote=yuki]So any idea why I can't use delay?[/quote]

If you're using Twitch, you can just set a delay right through your site settings as opposed to using software.[/quote]

partners only
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#39
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^ yeh that

^ yeh that
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newbie.tf
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What are you setting your delay at?

Could you screenshot your obs settings for me?

What are you setting your delay at?

Could you screenshot your obs settings for me?
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#41
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Thank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.

Thank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.
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#42
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1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec

1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec
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newbie.tf
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yuki1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec

There are a lot more settings than those 3 things. Could you screenshot all of your settings so I can try to reproduce the issue with one of my PCs? Wouldn't hurt to have a pic of your dxdiag as well.

KaiThePhauxThank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.

Thanks. I'll hopefully add more to this playlist soon. I've been super busy over the past few months, though.

[quote=yuki]1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec[/quote]
There are a lot more settings than those 3 things. Could you screenshot all of your settings so I can try to reproduce the issue with one of my PCs? Wouldn't hurt to have a pic of your dxdiag as well.

[quote=KaiThePhaux]Thank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.[/quote]
Thanks. I'll hopefully add more to this playlist soon. I've been super busy over the past few months, though.
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BrimstoneI was afraid this was going to be about twitch aiming and was prepared to be disappointed

Those two words don't mix

[quote=Brimstone]I was afraid this was going to be about twitch aiming and was prepared to be disappointed[/quote]

Those two words don't mix
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KevinIsPwnyuki1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec
There are a lot more settings than those 3 things. Could you screenshot all of your settings so I can try to reproduce the issue with one of my PCs? Wouldn't hurt to have a pic of your dxdiag as well.
KaiThePhauxThank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.Thanks. I'll hopefully add more to this playlist soon. I've been super busy over the past few months, though.

I'll do so when I get home today

[quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=yuki]1500 bitrate with minimise network impact ticked
480p
30 fps
delay set to anything >0 just doesn't work. Disconnects and retries after like 15sec[/quote]
There are a lot more settings than those 3 things. Could you screenshot all of your settings so I can try to reproduce the issue with one of my PCs? Wouldn't hurt to have a pic of your dxdiag as well.

[quote=KaiThePhaux]Thank you for this! I'm gonna spread this playlist around for sure.[/quote]
Thanks. I'll hopefully add more to this playlist soon. I've been super busy over the past few months, though.[/quote]

I'll do so when I get home today
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#46
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I recently got good internet and can now stream. Your tutorial is awesome! Thanks so much!

I recently got good internet and can now stream. Your tutorial is awesome! Thanks so much!
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#47
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old

old
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#48
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Unless you have a data cap it won't change your internet bill

Unless you have a data cap it won't change your internet bill
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#49
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Astrin_Sorry if been asked before.

I really want to stream and I know that I have the computer requirements and the up/down speed but I want to know if it will cost a lot on my internet bill.

I stream at 720, 30 fps and 3500 bitrate and I stream without any frame drops and I use obs if it matters.

EDIT: I'm an idiot and gave all my bitrates labels as kb/s when they actually should be in Mb/s.

3.5Mb/s is way overkill for 720p @ 30fps. I doubt you have partner either, so viewers don't get quality options, so all you are doing is alienating some viewers that don't have good internet from watching your stream. 2mb/s usually is plenty for a 720p @ 30fps stream, and I'd argue you still get pretty good quality at 720p @ 60fps with that bit rate.

Nobody here knows what your internet bill looks like. You can do the calculations yourself, streaming at 3.5Mb/s + .2Mb/s for audio, means you will be no higher than 4Mb/s. Figure out how long you plan to stream for and do the math.

[quote=Astrin_][i]Sorry if been asked before.[/i]

I really want to stream and I know that I have the computer requirements and the up/down speed but I want to know if it will cost a lot on my internet bill.

I stream at 720, 30 fps and 3500 bitrate and I stream without any frame drops and I use obs if it matters.[/quote]

EDIT: I'm an idiot and gave all my bitrates labels as kb/s when they actually should be in Mb/s.

3.5Mb/s is way overkill for 720p @ 30fps. I doubt you have partner either, so viewers don't get quality options, so all you are doing is alienating some viewers that don't have good internet from watching your stream. 2mb/s usually is plenty for a 720p @ 30fps stream, and I'd argue you still get pretty good quality at 720p @ 60fps with that bit rate.

Nobody here knows what your internet bill looks like. You can do the calculations yourself, streaming at 3.5Mb/s + .2Mb/s for audio, means you will be no higher than 4Mb/s. Figure out how long you plan to stream for and do the math.
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#50
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Simple calculation for your streaming bitrate

(video bitrate + audio bitrate) x 450 = kilobytes used per hour

Divide by 1024 to get megabytes per hour, and again to get gigs per hour.

450 is 60 (per minute) x 60 (per hour) divided by 8 (convert kilobits to kilobytes)

You can use this to determine if you're going to go over your datacap or if you're being charged per gig what it's gonna cost you. My rough calculations are saying it's going to be nearing 1.7 gigs per hour.

Simple calculation for your streaming bitrate

[code](video bitrate + audio bitrate) x 450 = kilobytes used per hour[/code]

Divide by 1024 to get megabytes per hour, and again to get gigs per hour.

450 is 60 (per minute) x 60 (per hour) divided by 8 (convert kilobits to kilobytes)

You can use this to determine if you're going to go over your datacap or if you're being charged per gig what it's gonna cost you. My rough calculations are saying it's going to be nearing 1.7 gigs per hour.
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#51
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hooray im streaming, ty!

hooray im streaming, ty!
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That was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide) which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?

That was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this [url=http://www.videogamespaymybills.com/twitch-streaming-guide/]eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide)[/url] which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?
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#53
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quadcastlerThat was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide) which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?

Nice necro bump. Also reminded me that this thread was a thing, Kevin please make more!
I'm no expert to answer your question, but I would guess that your chances of streaming old games(depends) won't go so well in terms of viewership since twitch is full of people who want whatever's mainstream, only those who are popular enough in those games can make it work.

[quote=quadcastler]That was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this [url=http://www.videogamespaymybills.com/twitch-streaming-guide/]eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide)[/url] which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?[/quote]
Nice necro bump. Also reminded me that this thread was a thing, Kevin please make more!
I'm no expert to answer your question, but I would guess that your chances of streaming old games(depends) won't go so well in terms of viewership since twitch is full of people who want whatever's mainstream, only those who are popular enough in those games can make it work.
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MagikarpquadcastlerThat was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide) which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?Nice necro bump. Also reminded me that this thread was a thing, Kevin please make more!
I'm no expert to answer your question, but I would guess that your chances of streaming old games(depends) won't go so well in terms of viewership since twitch is full of people who want whatever's mainstream, only those who are popular enough in those games can make it work.

if you do make new tutorials you should probably do it with the new OBS Studio as is better in nearly every way and has lots of new features that are helpful for streaming tf2 (at least I've found them to be) like automatic scene switching (for going between tf2 and pug sites/desktop, integrated clr browser support for twitchalerts and nice looking transitions

[quote=Magikarp][quote=quadcastler]That was really quick, I can count me on that. But, as a new streamer like myself I want to be more in it (Streaming) like what should I stream or how to make people know about my channels etc. After all, making some money is what I wanted to do with streaming. There is this [url=http://www.videogamespaymybills.com/twitch-streaming-guide/]eBook (Twitch Streaming Guide)[/url] which helped me a lot. But, I have a different question that needs to be answered. Should stream the old games too or should I just stick with the new ones? I mean, what are my chances about streaming old games?[/quote]
Nice necro bump. Also reminded me that this thread was a thing, Kevin please make more!
I'm no expert to answer your question, but I would guess that your chances of streaming old games(depends) won't go so well in terms of viewership since twitch is full of people who want whatever's mainstream, only those who are popular enough in those games can make it work.[/quote] if you do make new tutorials you should probably do it with the new OBS Studio as is better in nearly every way and has lots of new features that are helpful for streaming tf2 (at least I've found them to be) like automatic scene switching (for going between tf2 and pug sites/desktop, integrated clr browser support for twitchalerts and nice looking transitions
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newbie.tf
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I kinda forgot about this series to be honest, lol. And yeah, bear. I'll end up doing OBS studio as soon as the changes calm down a bit, probably. I don't want to have to make too many more updates after releasing the original tutorials.

and re: quadcastler

Variety streaming is really hard. Getting your initial audience can be very difficult, especially when playing older games. There are very few people that successfully stream only old games (aside from speed runners, obviously), and almost none of them started with that genre. Definitely play newer games, especially when just starting out if you want to get a lot of people watching eventually.

Building an audience is not something I'm as good at on twitch, because that's never been my goal. The only thing I'd ever say in a streaming tutorial aside from the technical aspects of it is "have fun", because that's my only goal in streaming. Doing it primarily for the money just about never works.

I kinda forgot about this series to be honest, lol. And yeah, bear. I'll end up doing OBS studio as soon as the changes calm down a bit, probably. I don't want to have to make too many more updates after releasing the original tutorials.

and re: quadcastler

Variety streaming is really hard. Getting your initial audience can be very difficult, especially when playing older games. There are very few people that successfully stream only old games (aside from speed runners, obviously), and almost none of them started with that genre. Definitely play newer games, especially when just starting out if you want to get a lot of people watching eventually.

Building an audience is not something I'm as good at on twitch, because that's never been my goal. The only thing I'd ever say in a streaming tutorial aside from the technical aspects of it is "have fun", because that's my only goal in streaming. Doing it primarily for the money just about never works.
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#56
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Would it be at all possible for me to stream on twitch with even a MILDLY nice stream quality on 1.5Mb/s upload?

Would it be at all possible for me to stream on twitch with even a MILDLY nice stream quality on 1.5Mb/s upload?
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#57
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fahrenheitWould it be at all possible for me to stream on twitch with even a MILDLY nice stream quality on 1.5Mb/s upload?

Dude, I stream speedruns on a 0.5 upload speed.
You can easily stream using something like 1000-1100 bitrate with no downscale.

[quote=fahrenheit]Would it be at all possible for me to stream on twitch with even a MILDLY nice stream quality on 1.5Mb/s upload?[/quote]
Dude, I stream speedruns on a 0.5 upload speed.
You can easily stream using something like 1000-1100 bitrate with no downscale.
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#58
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Thanks Magikarp and bearodacty.

I will do my best to be more popular in Twich as well as in YouTube. But, to be honest, I'm old. I don't know how much effort I can make but I really like to play for sure. Guess I'll be needing all of your help more often, specially KevinIsPwn. I'll be in touch.

Thanks Magikarp and bearodacty.

I will do my best to be more popular in Twich as well as in YouTube. But, to be honest, I'm old. I don't know how much effort I can make but I really like to play for sure. Guess I'll be needing all of your help more often, specially KevinIsPwn. I'll be in touch.
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