I personally feel the obvious top 4 is b4nny platinum habib clockwork
And for the 5th spot you could make a case for, among others,
blaze
yomps
shade
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bdonski
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I personally feel the obvious top 4 is b4nny platinum habib clockwork
And for the 5th spot you could make a case for, among others,
blaze
yomps
shade
Redacted
bdonski
Seagull
fyg
Mustard how on earth is habib getting a slap on the wrist for missing demos nothing to complain about when literally any advanced player wouldn't have the luxury of not missing playoff matches???
ok, solution: for any minor infraction with a ban of less than a season long, if the ban would interfere with playoff matches, the player has the option to defer the ban to next season, and if they don't play that season they will remain on the ban list until they serve it while on an active roster
something like that?
no one should miss playoff matches for relatively minor offenses, it's categorically different to reg season in my opinion. tom brady got 4 games for deflategate but he didn't get banned THAT PLAYOFFS for it
I look forward to pedantically critiquing this list just like I did to the beta version over steam!
mustardoverlordyou folks will complain about anything lol
half the people here are mad that he got banned at all and the other half are mad it wasn't punitive enough, when either way it's just a slap on the wrist first time offense sorta thing
not even remotely worth stressing about
I don't know if this is unpopular or not but
in the current meta being played at the highest levels of invite, soldier (particularly the soldier duo as a collective unit) is the most impactful class in the game
Peteseems like there's a lot of stuff that people hate but i never played gen 4 and i'm having a blast
10/10
in addition to what spu said my main issues are
1) I don't like the chibi 3d artstyle at all though this is subjective
2) compared to the gen 1 gen 2 and gen 3 remakes they really didn't add a lot of new content at all
3) they didn't even do the cheat that other remakes have done and add content from the 3rd game- a lot of good stuff from platinum is not in here
the gen 4 games are pretty classic so if it's your first time it still has that going for it but I wanted more for a remake!
I don't really care that much either way but it is pretty weird that it wasn't included in the survey given its status as pretty clearly the most controversial unlock currently allowed- maybe it's cuz they wanted to focus more on which weapons to include rather than which to exclude, but it's certainly worth at least having the conversation
am I the only one who thinks the remake looks like absolute dogshit
for a bit of a curveball, I'd also like to mention rasta pasta, a ny classic
italian: pappardelle with bolognese
japanese: miso or tonkotsu ramen, or anything with udon noodles
chinese: dan dan or those xi'an style lamb cumin noodles
korean: jajangmyeon
thai: basic bitch pad thai or pad see ew
vietnamese: bún thịt nướng (will admit I had to look up the name for this other than bun haha)
you folks will complain about anything lol
half the people here are mad that he got banned at all and the other half are mad it wasn't punitive enough, when either way it's just a slap on the wrist first time offense sorta thing
not even remotely worth stressing about
what I'm getting from this is that most people here don't perceive a real difference between 2007 tf2 and, like, 2010 tf2.
when teams first switched over from quake and ns, things were ugly and muddled, and the really talented tf2 players hadn't yet been sorted out. the first really dominant team emerged in 2008, which was reptile's pandemic, but by like mid 2009 they had been surpassed by carnage's squad (and him and relic hadn't switched over to quake as early as some other players).
by the time you get to 2010, you've had col/loaded with carnage and jaeger and those guys around for a while, blight.fanom with TLR and ruwin shows up, the other blight has harbleu and platinum, and then you get emg with b4nny and yz50 and x6 with kalkin tlr and harb by the end of the year. by 2012 you already have the sick original mixup lineup (pure, enigma, ruwin, tlr, harbleu, platinum). you also have the gunboats, which had started to become more common (though not universal, and not for pockets rly until tri and chess club among a few others). in short, tf2 had changed a LOT in that window.
if we are talking an actual 2007 team, they'd basically just be above-average pub players. by 2010-2012, you have a real team on your hands. would that team beat a modern-day open team? not sure. I think they'd be really good at certain things in comparison (comms and being on the same page, ground rocket aim, scout aim), and significantly worse in others (jumps, movement, demos being used to modern stickies, how much is expected of medics these days). my guess is they could have a shot on granlands ofc, and maaaaybe snake or gully, but would get steamrolled on slightly newer map designs.
I guess if by 'open' you mean newcomers the old team would win, but if we mean the equivalent of esea-open (so like rgl im or main) the latter teams would prolly win.
Too bad (((they))) don't want you to know about it...