this is why I think the eye test/peak performance/how hard players carried their teams should be a major factor

with that framework, freestate being a bit lower isn't crazy, but I'd also argue someone like campy or lolguy should be a lot higher

shade, nursey, harbleu if he counts, cozen, thefragile, pyyyour off the top of my head

there may be more too idk

the only thing worse than this thread is that i kinda half got the reference

when the shitpost is 100x longer than any of its replies, the people replying are not the obsessed ones

also,

too bad shade, cookiejake, permzilla, harbleu, and possibly other people on your list did not start as medic mains

I'm sorry but, out of game stuff aside, it's a ridiculous take to leave nursey off the list of 'good' medics even if you're limiting it to that small of a pool

raymon and nursey reached a higher peak relative to their era than any other medics I've ever seen

Vhalin was already on the list

I actually think of those, cookiejake is prolly the one who should be higher imo

it's interesting because, even with the loss of the mixup guys and whatnot, NA still has a larger proportion of its best ever players playing atm, whereas EU and AU have lost a lot of them. I think THEIR boomer v zoomer debates would be even more spicy tbh

sounds like, in expecting me to hold a grudge against alfa, you have played yourself...

since the newer part dropped I might as well give my honest opinion: I would rank mr dracula in the 31-40 range if it were my list, but I wouldn't be super miffed if he were in the 21-30 range or the 41-50 range

I always thought tagg was pretty overrated so I don't mind him here, but again, not a big fan of stat accumulators > people who were absolutely tops at their class

in this case I personally think campy should be top 50, he was a monster

absolute annihilation

girl gamer too @_@

who said I was saying it in jest? please point into this thread where I said anything about where I would rank alfa...

just shows how fast FAKE NEWS can spread

only top 35? not top 25? you're a hater bro, he's a legend