Adding a ninth map to invite brings up something that's bugged me about pick/bans in TF2 for these past few seasons: Why do we do alternating pick/bans for playoffs with an 8 map pool?

Right now, with our 8 map pool, this is how we're doing things:

A Bans | B Bans | A Picks Map 1 | B Picks Map 2 | A Bans | B Bans | A Picks Map 3

The way it is right now, the higher seeded team gets both advantages in the draft: they get to choose how to kick off the series, and where the series will end. This just strikes me as strange coming from CS, where there's a 7 map pool, so for playoffs deciders there's actually a choice to be made on whether you want to go for the throat, or take the safety pick and make sure you can take map 3 if it goes that far. That means there's an actual decision to be made for whether you want to be A or B. But in TF2 with the draft the way it is and an 8 map pool, your choices are to make both of the most important decisions for the draft, or make neither.

And the solution is really easy: Just have B do both of the final bans, so that it looks like this:

A Bans | B Bans | A Picks Map 1 | B Picks Map 2 | A Bans | B Bans | B Picks Map 3

I guess the question comes down to how much value you should get out of a higher seed. Seeding in TF2 is more valuable than in other games with similar playoffs structures (CS is the only game I have experience with this in, but my understanding is that MOBAs and fighting games use a similar system for hero / stage drafts). It just strikes me as strange and possibly an oversight, since when I looked back at my RGL S1 playoffs pages, (and I just checked my ESEA playoffs pages, they also had the same issue) the instructions had the teams banning 6 of the 8 maps. If we've decided that the seeding should be worth more, that's one thing, but if the system is the way it is just because nobody's ever thought about it, I think that this is something worth talking about.

Or you could just add one more map (or take away one) and not have to worry about it.

nvm im retarded lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dns556pSjsI

this shit busted

also

SOLEMN VOW UNLEASHED!

prepare for even dumber scout feeds for low health players.

https://rgl.gg/Players/My/Survey.aspx?r=24&s=27

I dropped out of high school because I was really depressed. I spent a few years playing CS, not going outside, generally being my worst self, and flipping between wanting to be dead and wanting to never have been born on a daily basis. Then I met some cool people that made me want to be somewhat less of a loser. So I got a job, quit CS, and eventually came back to tf2. Then I met a girl, fell in love, and got burned. Lost some friends on the way, but I made a few new ones. Now I don't have a job or a girlfriend, tf2 isn't as fun as it used to be, and going outside is no longer just anxiety inducing, it's terrifying, and even potentially life threatening. I can't decide if things are any better than they were right after I dropped out, but I'm only miserable most of the time now instead of all the time, so I guess that's something. hbu?

played some 4s pugs with the boys and these all felt really good. I think I prefer medic like this tbh, but I haven't played a real gamemode yet. twiikuu ur the fuckin MAN.

now there's two casuals

need demo tryouts for thursday (tonight), shoot me a line

added me for tryouts, seemed super chill. give this lad a shot

my friends wanted me to play, and im not gonna let sigafoo bully me out of fun times with my friends (:

scouts: ghad & 24
soldiers: Kami & em
demo: Recurse
medic: Constantly
https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=6316&r=40

Lookin for some subs for our players who can't always make it. Need a scout for the days 24 works 14 hours, and occasionally a medic / soldier for days when HL runs late or a certain someone has some admin chores to do. message me or kami and we can get you in some time soon !!! tyvm, ily, godbless

Me:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/somestupidnerdshit
ghad#1875

Kami:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/KVWI
Kami#1910

guaranteed 302 dpm a game no exceptions

gg plump ! very fun, much love <3

GL with the rest of playoffs

Someone who holds positions that I agree with. Right now the system is set up such that the main criteria for deciding who to vote for is, "who do I hate the least?" This is a system that necessarily leads to the majority of people having their positions be unrepresented in government, which is the opposite of the whole idea behind representative government. And the next logical step from, "my vote will not be representative of me or my ideas" is to say, "therefore I will not vote."

I said that I was sorry for saying what I did and would try to be respectful in the future. At this point it doesn't even matter anyway, I talked to Daf about it and he told me there was nothing he could do because the other admins (whether that's the sixes admins or the head admins, I don't know) don't care.

If you want the full story, my team was trying roster Owib for the rest of the season. Through a comedy of errors that doesn't matter at this point, nobody talked to an admin about getting him rostered or anything until the day of the match, so to have him play he would officially be a ringer, even though we were planning on rostering him. When match time came, Jag waited until 10 minutes after our match time to tell us the ringer was denied (he didn't count as a default ringer because he was previously on an advanced roster), and then threatened to "force the issue" (presumably meaning he intended to report a forfeit win) if we didn't play right then. So in a scramble to find a way to play, Jag denied a few other players, and after talking to Daf (I'm pretty sure he was in the middle of playing a match or scrim of his own at the time, too) we figured the only way to play that wouldn't be 5v6 was to have Owib med (Daf specifically said he could play medic and only medic as a default ringer) and have me play scout/soldier (without warmup I'm pretty awful on both, and Owib wasn't the best medic either). Already tilted and with 2 players playing classes they were VERY uncomfortable on, we got rolled. Before we started I told Jag & friends that what they were doing was bullshit and I wasn't happy with the way they were handling the situation. And then after we got rolled I said, "bad players [BAD WORD] wins" and left the server.

Did I fuck up? sure. Was Jag extremely fucking petty and unsportsmanlike through our match and then continued to act like a child by reporting me? yep. Am I sorry? I'm sorry if I hurt any feelings, but I strongly suspect I didn't. At this point it doesn't really matter though, I'm certainly never playing RGL again after this season, and as a result probably TF2 as a whole. It sucks that this is how it ends, but I'm not really interested in playing a game where this kind of behavior still happens at this level of competition, and where this kind of admin negligence happens at all. Daf was chill and down to earth with me about this after the fact, and I haven't spoken to any of the other admins for any problems like this before, but clearly there's some flaw in the system. I hope it gets sorted out before some other idiot like me gets banned for being mad on the internet, but I won't be around to see it either way. I love you guys and I'll miss the way this game used to make me feel, but I don't have the mental wherewithal to deal with this level of bullshit. cu@ RGB, hope I get to go out with another banger of a LAN.