Legitimately terrified that the NHS might be on the way out. If the best hospital system in the world gets destroyed and privatized, it'll be generations before the US even thinks about universal healthcare :(
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Nub_DanishIn EU anyone who is a resident of another country that is a member of the EU is allowed to enter the UK and live there. Also the EU could pass legislative requiring the UK to take a certain amount of "refugees".
1. You're a dumbass if you assume the UK won't try to renegotiate for open borders. The European economy depends on it at this point and UK workers are now nearly worthless compared to Irish or mainland people in the same field since they have much worse travel requirements
2. The EU could've done a lot of things to detract from the British economy but it didn't. This is ignoring that immigrants are what the UK desperately needs right now. Part of the reason the Scottish voted so strongly to remain is because the population is aging faster than they can maintain and they need more young workers.
EmilioEstevezeeeDemocracy is a terrible system of government.
Typical remain voter.
I'm american dipshit. I'm actually really fucking happy to watch your economy collapse because I can invest basically risk free.
GJ completely ignoring my point though. You know 100% that the working class in britain just shot themselves in the foot because they're too stupid to read a news article, but you'll defend them over idealism or some stupid shit while your country slides slowly out of the first world.
Nub_DanishRussianGuyovichPeople are justified in wanting to keep mass immigration of Muslims from happening theirs segregated swimming pool's and trains in Germany because of the mass immigration, theirs literally rape gangs of Muslims migrants. Maybe you get over yourself and acknowledge that maybe the people from the middle east have different morals and values from our western countries.DavidTheWinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAu8gbAttXE&feature=youtu.be&t=90
Yep, we're all like that. Thankfully our media doesn't have an agenda in their pick and mix editing.
The UK maintained control of its own borders. They literally had nothing to gain from leaving the EU in regards to immigration.
EmilioEstevezeeeNot everyone has an opinion that's worth listening to.
Finally somebody comes out and says what they think. The remain camp were exactly what they were portrayed to be, elitist snobs sneering at the working class and acting like the votes and opinions of those less educated or less wealthy than themselves are somehow worth less.
They are. Lmao if you think people who don't know anything about international trade should be allowed to dictate the foreign policy of an entire country. Democracy is a terrible system of government.
letting poor people decide how the economy works is like letting high schoolers practice medicine
RussianGuyovichDo pointless degrees like Gender and Women's Studies count as higher education?
Fun fact: those aren't real majors and almost all of the programs that exist for them are so they can be taken as a minor in social work or HR
Ask your flank what they're doing, then tell them what to do.
Nub_DanishI mean that doesn't change the implication that the poor, elderly, and people who didn't go to university are inherently stupider. Going to school doesn't mean you did more research on this specific topic, neither does having more money and being younger certainly doesn't.
The implication only exists because those demographics are the ones who were the least likely to understand what the EU is, the least likely to understand how much control the UK had on immigration, the least likely to understand what controls the UK would gain if it left, and the least likely to think it will negatively affect them, while being the most likely to ignore expert opinions that said that they were wrong.
Not everyone has an opinion that's worth listening to.
Nub_DanishAgain your calling just calling the people on the other side stupid/uneducated where are these numbers showing the demographics voting each way, your talking out your ass. The search increase on google doesn't necessarily mean anything because you don't know who was making the search it could have been the 15-17 year olds who are old enough to be concerned but not old enough to vote.
I mean I wouldn't call them stupid and uneducated if polling didn't indicate that they weren't. (overview)
I mean, its painfully clear that people who have more experience with money, education, international trade, and really any "high value" skill set were against this. Considering that Immigration and concern for the EU were concerns that peaked in the past year, it seems like this is something that came on suddenly and wasn't particularly well considered by most people. I'd assume that news cycles and negative exposure all came together to cause people to freak out over the collapse of the EU or w/e and people made panic votes without really understanding what the EU does for the UK or what the UK does for the EU.
You can say I'm being a dick, but statistically, if you voted to leave you're not someone who's training or experience is in listening to experts or understanding international trade relations.
Nub_Danishyou say most of the country believes this yet the majority voted to leave, maybe a bunch of those people regret voting to leave, but you have no data to back that up and 51% voted to leave
People who voted to stay:
Educated, young, higher income, white collar
People who voted to leave:
High-School, older, poor, blue collar
Combined with the fact that the average voter didn't even know what the EU actually did, its REALLY fuckin clear that the leave voters didn't have a clue what they were getting themselves into. The Remain voters weren't any better on the understanding aspect, but they at least listened to experts so idk
Arguing the direct debit/credit for the EU/UK is horribly stupid. When you look at how much you were paying in EU membership dues the crash of the GBP alone has done more damage to the GDP than spending a years worth of EU dues and its only been a day. If Brexit had been perfect and that hadn't happened, you'd still likely be losing money in the medium term as you'll have to restructure and renegotiate trade deals and for reasons I've already explained its unlikely you'll even maintain the current value of your trade
Best case scenario: InterEuropean trade tanks in the UK but trade with the US, commonwealth, and China manages to overcome that deficit and UK has a more diverse economy
Worst: Asia and NA don't want shit to do with the UK because of market instability and EU pressure and the UK economy stays the same but has to pay more in EU tariffs
EmilioEstevezeeereminder that anyone telling you anything specific will happen ("Food prices are expected to drop") has no basis for what they're saying because basically every economist only managed to say "it'll be kinda bad" and had no clue what the fuck was gonna happen after Brexit
If you have any sort of an idea what's gonna happen ,you could easily be a millionaire next year just by buying futures rn
Food prices went up when we joined the EEC because of protectionist tariffs. European farmers couldn't compete on price so they slapped massive tariffs on non-EU food in order to protect them. We don't need to pay those any more.
Maybe we'll pay more for other goods, but the price of milk/dairy/etc should be coming down.
so you'll have cheaper import food but the EU food subsidies that have been life supporting UK farming for the past 20 years are gone. You might see certain import foods crash in price while staple foods from Wales or w/e aren't farmed at all. This situation is so painfully complex that there's almost no way to guess what will happen.
The EU still controls a shitload of the European trade because any company that would try to do business in the UK would also be doing business on the continent. If mainland Europe still has protective tariffs and food regulations, other countries will still be unlikely to charge pre-EU prices.
There's also that mass exporters of food now have a market advantage over the UK being that the UK has almost no standing trade agreements and will need them ASAP to import necessary supplies like food. That necessity can easily be bargained with to create unfavorable trade deals that cause food prices to stagnate.
Source: Fiance is working on her Masters in economics and no one she knows has a clue what's going to happen
reminder that anyone telling you anything specific will happen ("Food prices are expected to drop") has no basis for what they're saying because basically every economist only managed to say "it'll be kinda bad" and had no clue what the fuck was gonna happen after Brexit
If you have any sort of an idea what's gonna happen ,you could easily be a millionaire next year just by buying futures rn
GazTo this day, I still have no clue about the benefits of an AL over a pug
u get to have another number next to ur name when u lobby stomp so people know you're a REAL gamer
they still haven't fixed the problem they had from DAY FUCKING ONE of there not being enough people who are AL ready to actually have a consistent amount of lobbies playable. TF2C only has 3~4 lobbies open and ~10 running at a time at best, you can't just cut the top 25% of players away from that and expect it to work
Saying scotland is fucked because oil is tanked seems painfully myopic tbh. But i guess thats the trend with the european 3rd world rn lol
Look at it this way, u can now guilt free vote the >65 crowd out of the NHS
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unironic gg to bob-omb squad, the last few rounds were fast paced and super tense and I had a lot of fun