like I just found out what ((())) was

how do i keep more up to date with this shit?

i mean if u need actual proof that my brain isn't under developed i guess. im not particularly smart but my brain at least works

Your argument is "Leaving the EU causes the EU to do things" but you haven't explained why leaving was necessary to make those things happen, what those things are, or what you think the best plan to further your goals are. Your objections are basically "the EU is bad and I don't want to support its shittiness" and your solution is to ruin your countries economy without actually doing anything that hurts the EU in a meaningful way. You still have to deal with the EU.

You still didn't explain at all how Leave is a good option. The EU is a piece of shit? Well you just backed out of being in its good grace and gave up any sort of political power you had in it, and you haven't gained anything from it.

I think i talked about this in my nerd essay but:

I don't think anyone was expecting this to actually happen. The Leave leaders aren't stupid. They knew a leave was going to have strong market effects. But we've seen relatively little in the shape of a plan or ideas to stabilize the economy and transition smoothly. If I had to guess, they wanted to pressure the EU into giving them more control as well as set up a precedent for leaving.

im also a college junior with a 3.9 GPA and i can bench more than u

the fact u cant even come up with tangible, factual arguments for why the Leave was a good idea is a really good example of the ability of the average leave voter to understand economics :)

i got downvoted for not typing like an autist so here's my actual normal response

if the best you can do to defend the Leave vote was it was supported by people who liked the beatles, your argument is actually beyond terrible

i could of course explain why that's retarded but i think it'll be lost on you since you seem to think being good at one thing automatically makes you better at other things, I'm assuming this is because you're a weeaboo with no life experience who lives in the shittiest parts of his country and has yet to master anything

"trying to claim"

I'm not claiming anything. Polls directly indicate that the average voter on both sides was horribly uninformed about the nature of the referendum. They didn't understand what the EU did for the UK, the extent of immigration in the UK, how much the EU was costing them, or how extensive the EU welfare system in the UK was. Here's an Independent article about it.

"The biggest muggers and robbers are multinationals evading taxes"

I agree. Leaving the EU isn't going to solve any of that though. All you've done is hurt the short term profits of the 1%. They'll either relocate to mainland Europe or Ireland or pass the increased tariffs and legislation onto the public. If you want to actually control multinational corporations, the EU was your best shot, since it gave you a large governing body with enough clout to actually prevent tax havens and the like from forming effectively in Europe. Now all you've done is set up a situation where either you become a tax haven or somewhere else does and you lose the advantages of having huge corporations use your country as a stepping stone into the EU. Overall, you cut your nose to spite your face and don't have any way to stem the bleeding. I assume that UKIP was trying to maneuver for a better position with this referendum and didn't actually expect to succeed, otherwise there would have been a better plan to ease the economic fallout.

"Yea sure, totally incompetent"

The problem with your argument (and more broadly democracy) is that the entire system depends on people being well informed on a specific set of skills that the vast majority of the population doesn't have. You can be a fantastic miner, farmer, doctor, or teacher and not have at all of a clue about international politics and trade. You can even be a great local business man or politician and still be myopic to the international or intercontinental implications of your actions. The problem is that the people who are employed to inform the public and make decisions about things like this underestimated the anti-EU sentiment. The remain camp half-assed their defense, and since talking points are always over-simplified and selective, Brexit came down to a really weak issue that was far too nebulous to debate (immigration). While there is some merit to the argument about the amount of autonomy should England have on its borders, that shouldn't have been the focus of this discussion. Since the discussion got paired down into such a small and specific issue, people didn't bother to research it and mostly went with their gut feeling about how immigration affects them. Because immigrants tend to take lower paying or unskilled jobs, the people who felt the most threatened were the working class of the UK, and they obviously showed up to defend their employment. These people don't know dick about the EU or immigration, they just know they're kind of related and that immigrants might take their jobs. Voting exit was obviously a rational choice in that light, and the biggest failing in letting that happen was the Remain camp not shifting the discussion towards more concrete issues like welfare, the economy, etc.

That said, you can't place all the blame on the politicians who misinformed the public, at some point the public needs to be responsible enough to actually look deeply into issues and do personal research.

also im not a retard pls stop saying that i have papers saying im anti-retarded plssss stop

If you have a local store that'll stock you can usually get in a raffle or something to have a shot at buying but online is mostly bots.

"because they as British citizens voted for self-determination"

I called them retarded because they voted for something that is only going to hurt them without even bothering to look up what they were voting for. Stop trying to assume I called them retarded for what they voted for. I'm calling them retarded because of why they voted for it.

"who also consist of the most honest and decent people you can find"

I wouldn't consider people in poverty particularly honest or decent but u do u and enjoy getting mugged i guess lol. You may or may not have noticed, but when it comes to voting, people tend to vote against their interest quite often.

"No prob with that though, "

Its just as terrible as a reason to vote, but staying in wasn't going to cause your economy to collapse so good job, you won !!!

"and the older people also remember a time before that"

I mean here in the states the old people remember a time when a good saturday involved lynchin a nigger but we don't really base our policy off the feelies of people with dementia because we're not interested in being economically ruined

both sides were terribly campaigned. that doesn't mean that the side that was more terribly campaigned didn't have the most backing amongst people who actually knew anything.

i mean if u earn £15K a year and dropped out of intro to engineering or w/e I don't think its fair to call you a success

its very clear that people who have spent the most time around higher education and in white collar settings tended to vote remain. You can interpret it how u want that the people who have the most practice working in areas based around critical thinking and researching options were also the most likely to vote remain.

I mean I'm pretty definitively no retarded (I got tested even) but sure resort to ad hominem when someone points out the flaw in your society i guess.

"it's your civic duty to do so"

Its also your civic duty to inform yourself about the political situation of your country but that sure as shit didn't happen.

"shows it is the people en masse with the most experience and wisdom in life, who decided in favour of leave"

By that logic it also showed that failures (people who didn't go to college and earn less money) were more likely to vote leave. Are we gonna start listening to the bottom 5% of the class now?

"As if some 20 y-old college kid in gender studies has a better idea of how the world works than their grandparents."

Considering their grandparents likely didn't even know the basics of what the EU did for the UK, that's a fair analysis to make.

The electorate is retarded

the average human being is retarded

people who have spent thousands of hours playing tf2 discussing and thinking about economic and political theory pretty collectively agreed that leaving the EU would have negative short term and longer term consequences, and basically no one could provide a good argument for why it was a good idea. Propaganda won because the average person was too stupid to even bother to research what the EU was or how much the UK was paying into it vs receiving,

having 90% of the reddit and college vote doesn't mean much. The people who cared about sanders were the 20 year olds who were going to show up to vote anyway, not the average college kid.

your reason for the tea party not being the same as the brexit voters was completely unrelated to what avast said

True bummer, didn't the UKIP leader write a book about privatizing the NHS?

I guess the one benefit is that most people are supposedly happy with the NHS so anyone campaigning directly on breaking it up would have a hard fight to win.