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Automated Looking for Scrim
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Hi,
I am a lazy person, so I am searching for an automated/easier way to schedule scrims for my team. If there is something like this already excisting pls let me know.

I like how fast the discord group LFS sections are tbh. But there are some issues with this, that is hard to change with only a discord message in a group. For example if you are looking for a scrim on one day, you have to be pretty active on discord to find a team that is not already booked (Espacially if you don't have so much time). It is also not really possible to schedule for a scrim a day ahead.
Yes I could do search the leagues teams to msg every leader to schedule scrims. But where is the fun in that. Espacially in the off-season the teams are not up to date.

What I would like to have:

  • A easier way to see if the LFS messages are still active or not
  • To schedule for LFS msg for specific days/times
  • To automated get "matched" if there are two LFS msg that are looking for the same thing
  • A way to notify me if a scrim was found, canceled, etc.
  • Get the team page (i.e. etf2l team page link) so I can check if the LFS is valid. This could be done automatically. Also the system could verify the lfs by itself when inserting the etf2l team id.

I am lazy, but I would take the time to implement it myself if this would makes my scrim management easier.

So a quick recap:
Is there a better/automated way to schedule scrims? If not is there any interest of other team leaders to use such kind of system? And If there is, are there also devs that are intrested in helping me.

kind regards and have a nice day

Hi,
I am a lazy person, so I am searching for an automated/easier way to schedule scrims for my team. If there is something like this already excisting pls let me know.

I like how fast the discord group LFS sections are tbh. But there are some issues with this, that is hard to change with only a discord message in a group. For example if you are looking for a scrim on one day, you have to be pretty active on discord to find a team that is not already booked (Espacially if you don't have so much time). It is also not really possible to schedule for a scrim a day ahead.
Yes I could do search the leagues teams to msg every leader to schedule scrims. But where is the fun in that. Espacially in the off-season the teams are not up to date.

What I would like to have:
[list]
[*] A easier way to see if the LFS messages are still active or not
[*] To schedule for LFS msg for specific days/times
[*] To automated get "matched" if there are two LFS msg that are looking for the same thing
[*] A way to notify me if a scrim was found, canceled, etc.
[*] Get the team page (i.e. etf2l team page link) so I can check if the LFS is valid. This could be done automatically. Also the system could verify the lfs by itself when inserting the etf2l team id.
[/list]

I am lazy, but I would take the time to implement it myself if this would makes my scrim management easier.

So a quick recap:
Is there a better/automated way to schedule scrims? If not is there any interest of other team leaders to use such kind of system? And If there is, are there also devs that are intrested in helping me.

kind regards and have a nice day
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#2
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If there was a better way everyone would already be using it

If there was a better way everyone would already be using it
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#3
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Hello. Please Make This For Me. No I Will Not Help Or Pay You. Thanks. =)

Hello. Please Make This For Me. No I Will Not Help Or Pay You. Thanks. =)
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#4
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SeinfeldHello. Please Make This For Me. No I Will Not Help Or Pay You. Thanks. =)

If more ppl are intrested I am going to make it a real service.
And you don't have to pay for it.

[quote=Seinfeld]Hello. Please Make This For Me. No I Will Not Help Or Pay You. Thanks. =)[/quote]
If more ppl are intrested I am going to make it a real service.
And you don't have to pay for it.
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#5
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Maybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:

  • Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
  • Database (SQL)
  • Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)
Maybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:
[list]
[*] Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
[*] Database (SQL)
[*] Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)
[/list]
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#6
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callFEELDMaybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:
  • Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
  • Database (SQL)
  • Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)

This would be a week's work to make, but I know of a simillar system (scrim.tf) that basically had the same functionallity and died within a week. I don't see a reason to make this unless I know it won't die again
https://web.archive.org/web/20151210120921/http://scrim.tf:80/

[quote=callFEELD]Maybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:
[list]
[*] Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
[*] Database (SQL)
[*] Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)
[/list][/quote]

This would be a week's work to make, but I know of a simillar system (scrim.tf) that basically had the same functionallity and died within a week. I don't see a reason to make this unless I know it won't die again
https://web.archive.org/web/20151210120921/http://scrim.tf:80/
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#7
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Cool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about how you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and how you want it to work. I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.

You could maybe talk to the person who made scrim.tf and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.

Cool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about [i]how[/i] you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and [i]how[/i] you want it to work. I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.

You could maybe talk to the person who made [url=https://www.scrim.tf/]scrim.tf[/url] and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.
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#8
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TamircallFEELDMaybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:
  • Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
  • Database (SQL)
  • Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)

This would be a week's work to make, but I know of a simillar system (scrim.tf) that basically had the same functionallity and died within a week. I don't see a reason to make this unless I know it won't die again
https://web.archive.org/web/20151210120921/http://scrim.tf:80/

I guess a new tool, espacially a website is not the greatest fit for this use-case.
I think using a simple Discord Bot would improve this by far. Here you could have a easy notification about the current things going on. You didn't need to log in to something, just chat with it.

The Front-End thing i mentioned is just to get a better overview of the scrims. But I guess a Discord Bot could better provide service for it.

[quote=Tamir][quote=callFEELD]Maybe I can awake intrerest of other devs:
This project will need probably:
[list]
[*] Front-End Developer (creating a website with HTML/CSS/JS)
[*] Database (SQL)
[*] Back-End Dev (Grabbing APIs, building interaction with maybe a Discord Bot, general website backend, Building a rating system of teams to better match equal teams)
[/list][/quote]

This would be a week's work to make, but I know of a simillar system (scrim.tf) that basically had the same functionallity and died within a week. I don't see a reason to make this unless I know it won't die again
https://web.archive.org/web/20151210120921/http://scrim.tf:80/[/quote]
I guess a new tool, espacially a website is not the greatest fit for this use-case.
I think using a simple Discord Bot would improve this by far. Here you could have a easy notification about the current things going on. You didn't need to log in to something, just chat with it.

The Front-End thing i mentioned is just to get a better overview of the scrims. But I guess a Discord Bot could better provide service for it.
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#9
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AdjeCool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about how you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and how you want it to work. I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.

You could maybe talk to the person who made scrim.tf and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.

True. It was just an idea in my mind in the first place. I wanted to start a communication about the topic.

I have some ideas in mind to create it. But I thought there are excisting services that fits my need.
Seems like there is not the right thing for this problem atm. So I will get in touch with the creator of scrims.tf.

Also that means I will create a concept first, how this problem should be adressed. Then I can get the information about the interests as you said.

[quote=Adje]Cool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about [i]how[/i] you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and [i]how[/i] you want it to work. I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.

You could maybe talk to the person who made [url=https://www.scrim.tf/]scrim.tf[/url] and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.[/quote]
True. It was just an idea in my mind in the first place. I wanted to start a communication about the topic.

I have some ideas in mind to create it. But I thought there are excisting services that fits my need.
Seems like there is not the right thing for this problem atm. So I will get in touch with the creator of scrims.tf.

Also that means I will create a concept first, how this problem should be adressed. Then I can get the information about the interests as you said.
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#10
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AdjeCool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about how you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and how you want it to work. I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.

You could maybe talk to the person who made scrim.tf and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.

I think this dude sums it up pretty well. I have a proven way of finding scrims for 2 seasons now, you add enemy leaders of season that you know you have good games with and just ask at the start of the weeks if they need games for the weeks. 99% of the time I am able to fill all the hours my team wants to play in - and by asking people that I know I have fun playing against and It's a balanced game I feel more safe and I save the risk of my team getting mad etc.

[quote=Adje]Cool idea for a project but if you want to attract developers for this I think you'll have to do better than just write out your goals for it and actually think further ahead about [i]how[/i] you will accomplish those goals. There's a lot of things to consider when making a system like this.

The primary thing to consider is whether people will use it at all: if it's not easier than posting in a Discord channel or less time consuming to set up than it would be to plan your own scrims, it won't have any users and people will feel forced/inclined to use Discord anyway even if an alternative exists. Also important to note is that if you want to make this a service for lots of people you'll need to check if there even is any interest for this in the first place. I think your first step should be to create a poll of some sort and check if this is something people want and what kind of features they would like/find useful.

Another pitfall is the actual matching system. I think it will be very difficult to actually get the system to book scrims vs teams of equal skill or similar, because even in the same division there is quite a large skill gap between the bottom and top teams. Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

You want people to get notified about booked/cancelled scrims. Cool, but how do you want to do that? Mail? Discord? Steam? Push notifications?

How would this system work across different leagues and regions? You'd have to separate them in a proper and clear way so the system does not try and book scrims vs ozfortress teams when you play ETF2L or something silly like that.

Maybe you've thought about some of the things you've mentioned already and how you would implement it, but I feel like it's important to be very clear what it is that you want and [i]how[/i] you want it to work. [b]I like your concept but I don't think any developer would want to put their time into something like this (for free), just to realize that there is no demand for whatever it is he developed or that people prefer just messaging people over Steam or Discord to book scrims.[/b]

You could maybe talk to the person who made [url=https://www.scrim.tf/]scrim.tf[/url] and pitch your idea there, while it's not really what you're looking for I think it would fit in nicely with the player availability system he made.[/quote]

I think this dude sums it up pretty well. I have a proven way of finding scrims for 2 seasons now, you add enemy leaders of season that you know you have good games with and just ask at the start of the weeks if they need games for the weeks. 99% of the time I am able to fill all the hours my team wants to play in - and by asking people that I know I have fun playing against and It's a balanced game I feel more safe and I save the risk of my team getting mad etc.
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#11
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Adje Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.

I would like to announce my new Team Elo™ system which will scan through every log ever created, detect when 5 or 6 players with the same Steam IDs have played together, and determine a group elo based on the number of rounds scored.

[quote=Adje] Some teams won't mind playing vs teams far better than them but not everyone is the same in that regard. Until you can think of a solution for that I don't think a fully automatic system will work. Semi-automatic? Perhaps.
[/quote]

I would like to announce my new Team Elo™ system which will scan through every log ever created, detect when 5 or 6 players with the same Steam IDs have played together, and determine a group elo based on the number of rounds scored.
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#12
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