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Whitelist Changes Poll
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#31
17 Frags +
SentinelHonestly, it would be nice if we used a promod plugin that rebalances weapons for 6s. Shouldn't be too hard to make/maitain since tons of pubs have modified weapons already (x10 servers, vsh servers etc). I don't really see how that would negatively impact our "relationship" with valve, seeing as it's currently nonexistent apart from writing a news post for major lans and distributing medals for leagues. Just tailor the game to be the most fun it can be and stop worrying about valve, it's not like we matter to them, we're only a tiny fragment of the community of a game they don't really prioritize anyway.

It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.

Also anyone who thinks the base jumper should be unbanned has never played against it or has only played against awful players using it. The night of invite scrims it was allowed was some of the worst TF2 I've ever been a part of and it nearly killed at least two invite teams.

[quote=Sentinel]Honestly, it would be nice if we used a promod plugin that rebalances weapons for 6s. Shouldn't be too hard to make/maitain since tons of pubs have modified weapons already (x10 servers, vsh servers etc). I don't really see how that would negatively impact our "relationship" with valve, seeing as it's currently nonexistent apart from writing a news post for major lans and distributing medals for leagues. Just tailor the game to be the most fun it can be and stop worrying about valve, it's not like we matter to them, we're only a tiny fragment of the community of a game they don't really prioritize anyway.

[/quote]

It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.

Also anyone who thinks the base jumper should be unbanned has never played against it or has only played against awful players using it. The night of invite scrims it was allowed was some of the worst TF2 I've ever been a part of and it nearly killed at least two invite teams.
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#32
-1 Frags +
saamSentinelpromod plugin
It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.

Would it be possible to convince them to allow it, since they're already fine with whitelists/class limits?

[quote=saam][quote=Sentinel]promod plugin[/quote]

It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.[/quote]

Would it be possible to convince them to allow it, since they're already fine with whitelists/class limits?
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#33
9 Frags +
SentinelsaamSentinelpromod plugin
It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.

Would it be possible to convince them to allow it, since they're already fine with whitelists/class limits?

Whitelists and class limits are default tf2 features. Promods putting custom code on their servers are completely different

[quote=Sentinel][quote=saam][quote=Sentinel]promod plugin[/quote]

It would mean NA and EU were playing totally different TF2 tho, remember that we have ESEA to deal with.[/quote]

Would it be possible to convince them to allow it, since they're already fine with whitelists/class limits?[/quote]
Whitelists and class limits are default tf2 features. Promods putting custom code on their servers are completely different
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#34
1 Frags +

oh man, all these votes, look like we ain't on the same boat folks

oh man, all these votes, look like we ain't on the same boat folks
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#35
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FMpxw0di7ast7tB02PLqZbRagaV914Z6f_uD73PS-aY/edit?usp=sharing
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FMpxw0di7ast7tB02PLqZbRagaV914Z6f_uD73PS-aY/edit?usp=sharing
more results
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#36
-2 Frags +

Interesting that more people want the Loch 'n Load rebanned than the Cow Wangler.

Interesting that more people want the Loch 'n Load rebanned than the Cow Wangler.
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#37
-2 Frags +

Can we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things

Can we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things
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#38
10 Frags +
bleghfarecInteresting that more people want the Loch 'n Load rebanned than the Cow Wangler.

cow mangler is just annoying, the loch is legitimately overpowered

[quote=bleghfarec]Interesting that more people want the Loch 'n Load rebanned than the Cow Wangler.[/quote]
cow mangler is just annoying, the loch is legitimately overpowered
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#39
11 Frags +
EasyECan we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things

Please no that shit is actually so absurdly good it needs to stay banned.

[quote=EasyE]Can we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things[/quote]

Please no that shit is actually so absurdly good it needs to stay banned.
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#40
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maxc232shorasmfw people rather play with quick-fix than base jumper lol
the jumper isn't even good

having a permanent height advantage while making everyone look at you is stupid as fuck and should not be unbanned. I really think the rescue ranger has a good spot, still easy to destroy sentries but makes them much more viable and easy to position. This makes sentries more strategic and viable without effecting the flow of the game.

I think unbanning the pomson, dalohks and solemn vow. I read somewhere the quickfix always builds at max rate is that true? that would seem really broken.

Also something to keep in mind, if we give a big fuck you to valve it doesn't really change anything. We can use whatever whitelist we want. But we risk something like the sticky nerf again (volvo you stay away from my gunboats). Valve balances this game for casual, working with valve is in our best interest for the future of the game.

Played a scrim with no whitelist and the pomson was the most annoying thing, every time you tried building an engie will flank you and take away a good 30% before you die, all it does is slow the game down

[quote=maxc232][quote=shoras]mfw people rather play with quick-fix than base jumper lol
the jumper isn't even good[/quote]

having a permanent height advantage while making everyone look at you is stupid as fuck and should not be unbanned. I really think the rescue ranger has a good spot, still easy to destroy sentries but makes them much more viable and easy to position. This makes sentries more strategic and viable without effecting the flow of the game.

I think unbanning the pomson, dalohks and solemn vow. I read somewhere the quickfix always builds at max rate is that true? that would seem really broken.

Also something to keep in mind, if we give a big fuck you to valve it doesn't really change anything. We can use whatever whitelist we want. But we risk something like the sticky nerf again (volvo you stay away from my gunboats). Valve balances this game for casual, working with valve is in our best interest for the future of the game.[/quote]
Played a scrim with no whitelist and the pomson was the most annoying thing, every time you tried building an engie will flank you and take away a good 30% before you die, all it does is slow the game down
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#41
9 Frags +

I can't believe that people wanted sandman unbanned.

I can't believe that people wanted sandman unbanned.
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#42
-1 Frags +

the pomson got nerfed and the drain is negligible unless you are at point blank

if you're going to run into medics to try and point blank hit them, 2shot them with the shotgun

also it doesn't penetrate anymore

the pomson got nerfed and the drain is negligible unless you are at point blank

if you're going to run into medics to try and point blank hit them, 2shot them with the shotgun

also it doesn't penetrate anymore
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#43
7 Frags +
4812622the pomson got nerfed and the drain is negligible unless you are at point blank

if you're going to run into medics to try and point blank hit them, 2shot them with the shotgun

also it doesn't penetrate anymore

engineers spam choke with this thing is the most annoying, unlimited ammo, fast reload, slow projectile

[quote=4812622]the pomson got nerfed and the drain is negligible unless you are at point blank

if you're going to run into medics to try and point blank hit them, 2shot them with the shotgun

also it doesn't penetrate anymore[/quote]

engineers spam choke with this thing is the most annoying, unlimited ammo, fast reload, slow projectile
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#44
0 Frags +

It might be worth considering weighting the votes to include likely class bias. Scout unlocks getting support might be due to a preponderance of scouts voting for example, and in 6v6 there are a lot of them

It might be worth considering weighting the votes to include likely class bias. Scout unlocks getting support might be due to a preponderance of scouts voting for example, and in 6v6 there are a lot of them
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#45
3 Frags +
EasyECan we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things

You can airshot with wrap assassin (I did).

[quote=EasyE]Can we unban guillotine so scout can airshot things[/quote]
You can airshot with wrap assassin (I did).
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#46
5 Frags +

Where is the "original ESEA whitelist" option because I want to pick that.

Where is the "original ESEA whitelist" option because I want to pick that.
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#47
7 Frags +

bumping this while the whitelist discussion is happening

bumping this while the whitelist discussion is happening
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#48
4 Frags +

why would anyone use the pomson instead of the RR?

they have similar effects of basically denying an uber but the RR is far more consistent and has even more utility

why would anyone use the pomson instead of the RR?

they have similar effects of basically denying an uber but the RR is far more consistent and has even more utility
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