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how to improve consistency
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Whenever i play tf2, like i have these moments where i can't miss a shot as sniper or scout for 8 mins, then i have these games where i bottom frag with a k/d of 0.6 and DPM of 120. Does anyone know how to improve this? It's not an fps problem, and warming up isn't an issue either. Only thing that may affect it is maybe the fact that i have raw input off. Also, i have pointer precision on, so is that good or bad? If there's a related thread, im sorry and please link me to it.

Thanks!

Whenever i play tf2, like i have these moments where i can't miss a shot as sniper or scout for 8 mins, then i have these games where i bottom frag with a k/d of 0.6 and DPM of 120. Does anyone know how to improve this? It's not an fps problem, and warming up isn't an issue either. Only thing that may affect it is maybe the fact that i have raw input off. Also, i have pointer precision on, so is that good or bad? If there's a related thread, im sorry and please link me to it.

Thanks!
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Practice

Practice
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raw input off is probably part of it, and if you have a fast inches per 360 it's going to be incredibly hard to be consistent at sniper/scout unless you have tons and tons of hours on those settings

judging by your profile it doesnt seem like you have many hours at all, so just keep practicing and consider turning on raw input/lowering your sens

raw input off is probably part of it, and if you have a fast inches per 360 it's going to be incredibly hard to be consistent at sniper/scout unless you have tons and tons of hours on those settings

judging by your profile it doesnt seem like you have many hours at all, so just keep practicing and consider turning on raw input/lowering your sens
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Focus on improving your fundamentals. Whether it's aiming or air strafing, the better you are at them, the more consistent you will become.

I, like many would recommend turning on raw input simply because it eliminates any small barriers that you could possibly encounter with it off. But remember that a lot of things settings wise are personal preference. If you're comfortable with the sensitivity you're at, stick with it. But if you're straight up looking to get better, building up the muscle memory and further familiarizing yourself with your current settings (given that's what you feel like you'd be happy with) will take you a long way in the future.

Focus on improving your fundamentals. Whether it's aiming or air strafing, the better you are at them, the more consistent you will become.

I, like many would recommend turning on raw input simply because it eliminates any small barriers that you could possibly encounter with it off. But remember that a lot of things settings wise are personal preference. If you're comfortable with the sensitivity you're at, stick with it. But if you're straight up looking to get better, building up the muscle memory and further familiarizing yourself with your current settings (given that's what you feel like you'd be happy with) will take you a long way in the future.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
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#6
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ok thanks guys, i just turned off pointer precision and enabled raw iinput and my aim feels 100x better now. Thanks for all the help!

ok thanks guys, i just turned off pointer precision and enabled raw iinput and my aim feels 100x better now. Thanks for all the help!
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consistency is a myth

consistency is a myth
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we all have good days and bad days

we all have good days and bad days
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I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that

I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that
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avaiihnI'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that

its cause you're only playing MGE.

if you're at the point that every game or two features a moment where you solo the enemy team while the rest of hte time you're an average player, your DM isn't whats holding you back anymore. you can be as good at clicking on people as you want but if you don't "get" how to apply that to an actual game it won't matter. When I started playing Open I could beat pretty much every other open pocket in MGE cause I played it all the time, but I'd still get rocked in games by people who had a better since of how to catch me when I was out of ammo or in an awkward corner

[quote=avaiihn]I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that[/quote]
its cause you're only playing MGE.

if you're at the point that every game or two features a moment where you solo the enemy team while the rest of hte time you're an average player, your DM isn't whats holding you back anymore. you can be as good at clicking on people as you want but if you don't "get" how to apply that to an actual game it won't matter. When I started playing Open I could beat pretty much every other open pocket in MGE cause I played it all the time, but I'd still get rocked in games by people who had a better since of how to catch me when I was out of ammo or in an awkward corner
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eeeavaiihnI'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like thatits cause you're only playing MGE.

if you're at the point that every game or two features a moment where you solo the enemy team while the rest of hte time you're an average player, your DM isn't whats holding you back anymore. you can be as good at clicking on people as you want but if you don't "get" how to apply that to an actual game it won't matter. When I started playing Open I could beat pretty much every other open pocket in MGE cause I played it all the time, but I'd still get rocked in games by people who had a better since of how to catch me when I was out of ammo or in an awkward corner

He's right. Straight up DM/MGE isnt going to give you a fast track to invite anytime soon, or even IM if you're looking just to get out of open. But playing in high level pugs where you can be challenged to rely on your brain and DM is going to really help you push past those "plateaus" you experience every once in a while.

[quote=eee][quote=avaiihn]I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that[/quote]
its cause you're only playing MGE.

if you're at the point that every game or two features a moment where you solo the enemy team while the rest of hte time you're an average player, your DM isn't whats holding you back anymore. you can be as good at clicking on people as you want but if you don't "get" how to apply that to an actual game it won't matter. When I started playing Open I could beat pretty much every other open pocket in MGE cause I played it all the time, but I'd still get rocked in games by people who had a better since of how to catch me when I was out of ammo or in an awkward corner[/quote]
He's right. Straight up DM/MGE isnt going to give you a fast track to invite anytime soon, or even IM if you're looking just to get out of open. But playing in high level pugs where you can be challenged to rely on your brain [u]and[/u] DM is going to really help you push past those "plateaus" you experience every once in a while.
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idk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo

idk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo
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I dont get why rawinput isn't just turned on by default. It makes no seance to have it off. (Unless your on Linux where you have to use a script to disable it and turning on rawinput makes the game unplayable.)

I dont get why rawinput isn't just turned on by default. It makes no seance to have it off. (Unless your on Linux where you have to use a script to disable it and turning on rawinput makes the game unplayable.)
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I'll let you know when I figure it out.

I'll let you know when I figure it out.
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mmrarkteidk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo

yeah the best way to get better is to just get better

really sucks no one told me that

[quote=mmrarkte]idk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo[/quote]
yeah the best way to get better is to just get better

really sucks no one told me that
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eeemmrarkteidk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo
yeah the best way to get better is to just get better

really sucks no one told me that

? i clearly outlined what it takes to get out of open as scout
dont 1v1 everything, coordinate with ur team for 2v1s, get buffed a lot and pay attention to ur combo
what was difficult to understand

[quote=eee][quote=mmrarkte]idk using ur brain to get out of open is really easy
all you have to do is not take every 1v1, abuse 2v1s, buffs and listening to ur combo[/quote]
yeah the best way to get better is to just get better

really sucks no one told me that[/quote]
? i clearly outlined what it takes to get out of open as scout
dont 1v1 everything, coordinate with ur team for 2v1s, get buffed a lot and pay attention to ur combo
what was difficult to understand
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its pretty shitty advice? like its so obvious that it isn't really helpful because the people who take 1v1s and lose them all the time are already pretty aware that its not a good idea. Actual good advice would be trying to explain how to not let yourself get baited into 1v1s all the time without being so passive you're useless (because that's what most new open players do)

its pretty shitty advice? like its so obvious that it isn't really helpful because the people who take 1v1s and lose them all the time are already pretty aware that its not a good idea. Actual good advice would be trying to explain how to not let yourself get baited into 1v1s all the time without being so passive you're useless (because that's what most new open players do)
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eeeits pretty shitty advice? like its so obvious that it isn't really helpful because the people who take 1v1s and lose them all the time are already pretty aware that its not a good idea. Actual good advice would be trying to explain how to not let yourself get baited into 1v1s all the time without being so passive you're useless (because that's what most new open players do)

alright ok but i still see open scouts running and trying to dm everyone at 125 that are totally clueless to what their team is doing
i also dont want to be one of the many ppl who argue with u and accomplish nothing so im gonna stop here

[quote=eee]its pretty shitty advice? like its so obvious that it isn't really helpful because the people who take 1v1s and lose them all the time are already pretty aware that its not a good idea. Actual good advice would be trying to explain how to not let yourself get baited into 1v1s all the time without being so passive you're useless (because that's what most new open players do)[/quote]
alright ok but i still see open scouts running and trying to dm everyone at 125 that are totally clueless to what their team is doing
i also dont want to be one of the many ppl who argue with u and accomplish nothing so im gonna stop here
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rude

rude
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You're not grinding hard enough

You're not grinding hard enough
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Turns out m accel was built into my mouse, so got another shitty mouse with no accel and it turns out I can go 50-13 consistently now. (albeit on tf2center). I've been playing mixes, and I'm top-fragging mostly. Thanks!

avaiihnI'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that

dunno if this will help, but try to line up with the med/any target as much as u can to hit it

Turns out m accel was built into my mouse, so got another shitty mouse with no accel and it turns out I can go 50-13 consistently now. (albeit on tf2center). I've been playing mixes, and I'm top-fragging mostly. Thanks!

[quote=avaiihn]I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that[/quote]


dunno if this will help, but try to line up with the med/any target as much as u can to hit it
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leviathanTurns out m accel was built into my mouse, so got another shitty mouse with no accel and it turns out I can go 50-13 consistently now. (albeit on tf2center). I've been playing mixes, and I'm top-fragging mostly. Thanks!
avaiihnI'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that
dunno if this will help, but try to line up with the med/any target as much as u can to hit it

I think there's a way to disable any sort of mouse acceleration if you look inside the drivers of your mouse? Depends on the mouse you're using obviously but most gaming mice will have this off by default afaik

[quote=leviathan]Turns out m accel was built into my mouse, so got another shitty mouse with no accel and it turns out I can go 50-13 consistently now. (albeit on tf2center). I've been playing mixes, and I'm top-fragging mostly. Thanks!

[quote=avaiihn]I'm in the same boat as OP other than the whole settings fixing stuff. I'm super inconsistent and I haven't improved at all for months even though im going to DM servers and doing MGE as much as I can. Every once in a while I go off and do really well but 5 min later i miss 3 easy shots on a medic and die or something like that[/quote]


dunno if this will help, but try to line up with the med/any target as much as u can to hit it[/quote]

I think there's a way to disable any sort of mouse acceleration if you look inside the drivers of your mouse? Depends on the mouse you're using obviously but most gaming mice will have this off by default afaik
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There are many ways to thicken the broth of soups and bring it to a solid consistency.

One of the most common forms is Cornstarch. By adding cornstarch to a small amount of cold water or any other type of liquid (such as wine or stock) you create a thick slurry. With this you add it into the soup little by little until it brings itself to form and becomes more consistent.

Another way to do it is with Potatoes, Rice, and Bread. While not my favorite method they can add a quick boost to the thickness of the soup. Beware, however, as while it may seem fine at first the extra ingredients can end up making the soup uneven.

However my most favorite is the use of Roux. Roux is a substance which is made of equal parts fat and flour. It not only thickens the soup but also stabilizes it. This, however, requires time to make and makes it another chore for simply thickening soup. However, as they say, the more effort the greater the end product.

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It mostly boils down to practice. As you work on your gameplay, smartly with pugs and dm and such, you start to just figure out the sort of quirks of movement and be able to just shoot things more effectively. By doing it little by little you start to build up a foundation you can sort of rest on when you had "bad days" in TF2.

What I don't like is when people change a setting and suddenly be "better." It's no more than a placebo and should not be relied on. It makes for a very inconsistent player sometimes with some exceptions like perhaps mouse sensitivities. Stuff like interp is kinda whack and just feels like a placebo at times.

The most efficient way is to watch demos of yourself and of other top players of your class. Comparing the decisions you make and the decisions they make will perhaps bring a new light to how you play. This along with applying it to your game may require more effort but brings the best results in my eyes than just grinding DM and pugs. Watching POVs with comms is also great so you can try discern what's good and bad to communicate.

tl;dr I don't really know what I'm talking about I just wanted to make a soup analogy
There are many ways to thicken the broth of soups and bring it to a solid consistency.

One of the most common forms is [b]Cornstarch.[/b] By adding cornstarch to a small amount of cold water or any other type of liquid (such as wine or stock) you create a thick slurry. With this you add it into the soup [i]little by little[/i] until it brings itself to form and becomes more consistent.

Another way to do it is with [b]Potatoes, Rice, and Bread.[/b] While not my favorite method they can add a quick boost to the thickness of the soup. Beware, however, as while it may seem fine at first the extra ingredients can end up making the soup [i]uneven[/i].

However my most favorite is the use of [b]Roux[/b]. Roux is a substance which is made of [i]equal parts[/i] fat and flour. It not only thickens the soup but also [i]stabilizes[/i] it. This, however, requires time to make and makes it another chore for simply thickening soup. However, as they say, [i]the more effort the greater the end product.[/i]

[spoiler]It mostly boils down to practice. As you work on your gameplay, smartly with pugs and dm and such, you start to just figure out the sort of quirks of movement and be able to just shoot things more effectively. By doing it little by little you start to build up a foundation you can sort of rest on when you had "bad days" in TF2.

What I don't like is when people change a setting and suddenly be "better." It's no more than a placebo and should not be relied on. It makes for a very inconsistent player sometimes with some exceptions like perhaps mouse sensitivities. Stuff like interp is kinda whack and just feels like a placebo at times.

The most efficient way is to watch demos of yourself and of other top players of your class. Comparing the decisions you make and the decisions they make will perhaps bring a new light to how you play. This along with applying it to your game may require more effort but brings the best results in my eyes than just grinding DM and pugs. Watching POVs with comms is also great so you can try discern what's good and bad to communicate.

tl;dr I don't really know what I'm talking about I just wanted to make a soup analogy[/spoiler]
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#24
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eat lots of thinners or thickeners depending if you want to get more like liquids or solids.

Also consider consuming additional emulsifiers if you wish to blend your substances together to become better evenly across the board

eat lots of thinners or thickeners depending if you want to get more like liquids or solids.

Also consider consuming additional emulsifiers if you wish to blend your substances together to become better evenly across the board
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